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31. Vance can't single-handedly invoke the 25th amendment.

Sat Nov 1, 2025, 12:15 AM

Nov 1

He'd need a majority of the Cabinet, and that's unlikely since Trump would undoubtedly get wind of the plot and would fire disloyal cabinet members before they had a chance to act. And even if somehow Vance could marshal the support of a majority of Cabinet, Trump could simply send a letter to the House and Senate saying he isn't unable to perform the duties of the Office and he would resume the powers of the Office. While Vance and a majority of the Cabinet could then reiterate the claim that Trump is unable to perform the duties of the Office, as a practical matter, the moment Trump resumed office could fire every Cabinet member that sided with Vance. Finally, if it got that far, it would take a vote of 2/3 of both the House and Senate to remove Trump permanently -- a higher bar than impeaching and convicting him.

In short, so long as Trump is not unconscious, it's unlikely the 25th can successfully be invoked against him.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] PeaceWave Oct 31 OP

Heavy sigh UT_democrat Oct 31 #1

Those are not easy comparisons Renew Deal Oct 31 #2

Unfortunately there are men that usually vote democratic JI7 Oct 31 #3

I really don't see Vance at the top of a 28 ticket stopdiggin Oct 31 #4

He won't be the GOP nominee Fiendish Thingy Oct 31 #11

If they can destroy MAGA, yeah it'd be Cheney leftstreet Oct 31 #12

Maybe Kemp over Cheney in that non MAGA scenario Celerity Nov 1 #33

+1 leftstreet Nov 1 #34

Depends on whether trump annoints him, or whether Vance pulls an Amendment 22 coup before 2028. Silent Type Oct 31 #17

won't matter. (Trump's 'endorsements' have done surprisingly little ... ) stopdiggin Oct 31 #22

What is an Amendment 22 coup? onenote Oct 31 #28

25th. Typo, sorry. Won't correct it because I think most folks will get it. Silent Type Nov 1 #30

Vance can't single-handedly invoke the 25th amendment. onenote Nov 1 #31

He can get a majority of cabinet members to follow him. Jesus Christ, these people will walk over trump when Silent Type Nov 1 #32

It's early but imho it's Newsom's nomination if he wants it. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 31 #5

Oh, lord! bigmonk Oct 31 #6

You go to the polls with the electorate you have, not the electorate you might want or RockRaven Oct 31 #7

preach it! no seriously - the delusional needs to be beaten back into the corner .. stopdiggin Oct 31 #18

"BUt hE cAnT WiN tHe rUsT bElT" BannonsLiver Oct 31 #8

I'm afraid that's a conventional wisdom - widely shared stopdiggin Oct 31 #16

Meh BannonsLiver Oct 31 #24

There are still swing states? And those that are - nobody's idea .. ? stopdiggin Oct 31 #29

I am as a liberal/democratic as they come bob4460 Oct 31 #9

Neither will be the nominee in 2028 Fiendish Thingy Oct 31 #10

Is that basically your F5 key at this point? BannonsLiver Oct 31 #25

How about . . . Scubamatt Oct 31 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 31 #23

It's 2025. nt Gore1FL Oct 31 #14

AOC would have a 0% chance of winning the electoral college rollin74 Oct 31 #15

WAY too early. beaglelover Oct 31 #19

A white heterosexual man with hair performs better nationally than a Latino woman Prairie Gates Oct 31 #20

I'm glad that Newsom is polling ahead of Vance. Fortunately, Vance is fairly low bar to begin with. QueerDuck Oct 31 #21

Sadly, this country doesn't think women are smart, strong or capable. Bread and Circuses Oct 31 #26

They drooled over room temperature IQ Palin leftstreet Nov 1 #35

Too early for it to mean anything at all NoRethugFriends Oct 31 #27