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Self Esteem

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62. This claim just doesn't stand to scrutiny.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:58 PM
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It's a bad faith argument that is about as weak as any claim Trump made over the 2020 presidential election.

Voters are routinely moved from the rolls, generally due to inactivity, and that made up a massive amount of those removed from the rolls.

Take Pennsylvania. 99.95% of voters removed were due to being inactive.

Pennsylvania was in accordance of federal and state laws with this move. The fact is, an overwhelming amount of people removed from the rolls have not voted in any recent election and therefore declared inactive. That means these voters did not vote in 2022 or 2020 - if not longer.

There is zero evidence these voters would have voted in 2024 and would have voted for Harris.

And those who were removed could have still voted - by provisional ballot. In 2024, 100,000 voted in Pennsylvania by provisional ballot. Those who have legal standing to vote would have had their votes counted. But even if every single one of those 100,000 votes weren't counted, and every single one of 'em voted Harris, she still would have lost the state.

Face it: the facts do not point to Harris losing because of fraud.

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Has anyone contacted Sidney Powell? She would be a perfect fit for this "movement"! tritsofme Tuesday #1
Sure tintinvotes Tuesday #2
Nice parry... Hugin Tuesday #3
Given that's what the evidence supports yes that is easier to believe EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #4
The biggest harm in this conspiracy theory is that it makes citizens even more apathetic Ponietz Tuesday #9
2000? Perfect example. stillcool Tuesday #37
Sorry, 2000 was a typo -- should have been 2020 Ponietz Tuesday #41
I remember in 2015 when people said the same Hornedfrog2000 Tuesday #40
Russian influence was pretty clear to me then Ponietz Tuesday #42
Poorly informed suppositions? Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #22
thank you Celerity 21 hrs ago #91
The Brennan Center has answers for you stillcool Tuesday #29
What do you mean "Not something even Obama did"? Self Esteem Tuesday #7
There were numerous bomb threats on election day IbogaProject Tuesday #8
Real experts, with actual credibility, like Marc Elias say there was no fraud tritsofme Tuesday #12
I think the world of Marc Elias. I contribute to him every month. But here is where he is totally wrong. BComplex Tuesday #16
Except he is not wrong, he just wasn't fooled by delusional conspiracy theories. tritsofme Tuesday #24
I feel there was a party line after the election, that even Marc Elias (who I adore) bought into. yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #93
Me, too, yellow dahlia. BComplex 16 hrs ago #100
I get the motivation to look like (and BE) the good guys...BUT. yellow dahlia 2 hrs ago #102
I agree! I think we need to have a public "town hall" with all the dem strategists, and see when BComplex 2 hrs ago #103
Except you have no evidence, just theories Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #21
No. Trump told us they stole it. BComplex Tuesday #27
Nope, that's not evidence Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #38
and you consider those wild (and essentially meaningless) ramblings - to somehow be ... stopdiggin Tuesday #43
The bomb threats were a real issue but certainly not one that decided the election. Self Esteem Tuesday #60
The more than three and a half million voters... Chemical Bill Tuesday #61
This claim just doesn't stand to scrutiny. Self Esteem Tuesday #62
Interesting you focus on one state. Chemical Bill 19 hrs ago #97
Perhaps you are correct... Chemical Bill 19 hrs ago #98
on this we agree Celerity 21 hrs ago #90
EAC tests voting equipment on a regular basis -- the changes were de minimis cadoman Tuesday #5
From the article questionseverything 23 hrs ago #81
Yes, some of us have been paying attention since November. yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #94
This is my summary - Tbone421 Tuesday #6
Thiel has connections to Triplite and Palantir, Soros has connections to Dominion and Smartmatic cadoman Tuesday #19
Marjorie Greene is an investor in Palantir. Initech Tuesday #58
Kooky CT nonsense. Nt Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #20
I hear you angrychair Tuesday #26
Bullshit. Your statement is 100% false. Wiz Imp Tuesday #30
Of all the people that post theories, etc lapfog_1 Tuesday #34
Very much agreed Metaphorical Tuesday #52
I notice the regular naysayers never answer you! questionseverything Yesterday #76
once there was this thing called the Arpanet lapfog_1 21 hrs ago #89
Leonard Leo, Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel ... had it all ready to go. Btw Ohio's 2024 Senate race was dirty too. Botany Tuesday #10
Then why did Musk spend several hundred million on getting the vote out for Trump? Doodley Tuesday #32
Because he was compiling a tranche of voters that could be "called in" as needed. Botany Tuesday #36
I've always thought Ohio didn't pass the smell test. yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #95
Ivanka got EVMs as part of a deal with China Blue Full Moon Tuesday #11
Thank dog most people don't buy this conspiracy theory. We lost, now let's focus on primaries. Silent Type Tuesday #13
Sure 1 in 76 million is such a nothing stat. Botany Tuesday #15
Show your math Mountainguy Tuesday #59
Show your math questionseverything 23 hrs ago #77
I'm not the person you're resonding to, but the polling was clear it was a razor tight race and they were tied EdmondDantes_ 22 hrs ago #83
Ty but national polls really don't show us anything especially with only a thousand people questionseverything 22 hrs ago #86
Easy Mountainguy 22 hrs ago #87
80,000 simulations, I'm pretty sure anyone could find any result they wanted questionseverything 21 hrs ago #88
Well it's already got 40 recs Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #18
Sailed, horizon, long gone Sympthsical Tuesday #53
So true, and so sad. Nt Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #56
Using Conspiracy Theories to Make Sense of a Loss Celerity 21 hrs ago #92
This election was TOTALLY rigged by the crypto-loving silicon valley billionaires and the Leonard Leos of the world. BComplex Tuesday #14
So you're accusing Democrats like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden of being complicit in the cover-up of a "stolen election"? tritsofme Tuesday #28
Ridiculous and delusional? You're treading really close to something that's against the rules here... BComplex Tuesday #46
Accusing Kamala Harris and Joe Biden of intentionally covering up a "stolen election" is ridiculous and delusional tritsofme Tuesday #47
"I'm standing by my belief that trump/musk/Russia/LaCivita/Thiel/Leo etc rigged/stole/bomb-threatened our election." Jedi Guy 22 hrs ago #85
Election denialism does not help Democrats win future elections. Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #17
Statistical analysis shows manipulation angryxyouth Tuesday #49
Have you contacted the CyberNinjas yet? Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #50
Dr. Mebane is hardly Cyber Ninjas angryxyouth Yesterday #64
So I presume Jackson and Mebane will be introducing their "evidence" in court? Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #65
Dr. Mebane's work is being sited angryxyouth Yesterday #71
So, the answer is no, at least not yet Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #72
It's exactly what and why things are happening in Rockland County Ny angryxyouth 17 hrs ago #99
He did something with his pal of the moment, Musk Joinfortmill Tuesday #23
Been trying to show data for a month angryxyouth Tuesday #25
Why did Trump win in all swing states? How about they had a better machine to get the vote out? Doodley Tuesday #31
this is a danger of living in a bubble/echo chamber AlexSFCA Tuesday #33
yeah...it's not like the American people stillcool Tuesday #39
The protesters are at best a few percent of the population. They don't reflect how many people voted Kamala or Trump. Doodley Tuesday #44
This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Tuesday #45
If you actually believe she lost ALL of the seven swing states, valleyrogue Yesterday #67
Will you be selling a bridge to Kamala Harris? She doesn't buy into these nonsense conspiracy theories. tritsofme Yesterday #69
Crickets 🦗 Ponietz 22 hrs ago #84
Rockland county mean nothing Historic NY Tuesday #35
If what you say is true, if the chain of custody was tight then a hand count would prove it questionseverything Tuesday #55
Nonsense. this is just more 'mighta', 'coulda', 'kinda', stuff stopdiggin Tuesday #48
What are the odds valleyrogue Yesterday #68
Democrats showed a deplorable level of interest (and commitment) stopdiggin Yesterday #70
I still am not buying it that there wasn't cheating going on. valleyrogue Yesterday #73
except that pre-election polling showed that result to be stopdiggin Yesterday #74
Please post a link to back up your claim questionseverything 23 hrs ago #78
nope. do your own work. -(nt)- stopdiggin 23 hrs ago #79
So nothing, ty for the bump questionseverything 23 hrs ago #80
the election was over 8 months past stopdiggin 20 hrs ago #96
I knew something was wrong. Initech Tuesday #51
Me too mvd Tuesday #54
Doubting malaise malaise 23 hrs ago #82
Then why did polls show him either leading or within a point in every swing state? Polybius Tuesday #57
Kick n/t babydollhead Yesterday #63
There is no way in hell she lost ALL the "swing" states. valleyrogue Yesterday #66
Kick and rec. Kingofalldems Yesterday #75
MAGA hates this thread? B.See 16 hrs ago #101
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