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Gun Control & RKBA

AndyS

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13. This is where we always end up. Paranoia wins out and we have the equivalent of

Reply to yagotme (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:00 PM

Mar 2022

a snake eating it's own tail.

We must have hard data to make policy. We can't have hard policy because of paranoia. Therefore to get the cooperation of those who claim to have the knowledge to sanely make policy we must abandon reason and rely on whim. No policy is made so more people die by gun than cars.

Okay, I guess you take what you can get. Like it or not. From either side of the conversation.

BTW, you're making an awful lot of allegations regarding 'skewed data' and 'biased polls'. I'd ask that you show some evidence that such is true or that gun owners won't admit to having a gun but we know where that goes, don't we?

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cross post from the other group [View all] AndyS Mar 2022 OP

I protect my home padfun Mar 2022 #1

I do not have a gun sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #2

I do have a gun. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2022 #3

Chicago Trib, Dec 10, 2020 yagotme Mar 2022 #4

That is certainly a large increase and I wish all states required this kind of licensing AndyS Mar 2022 #5

The FOID and CC licensing is harder data, yagotme Mar 2022 #6

Perhaps but the assumption can't be quantified and is useless for policy decisions AndyS Mar 2022 #7

That goes along with the assumption that a survey showing a decrease in ownership, yagotme Mar 2022 #8

What do you suggest we use? AndyS Mar 2022 #9

What I was saying earlier, yagotme Mar 2022 #10

So, if we are to have the kind of hard data the gun rights side wants should we have a AndyS Mar 2022 #11

Fishing with an empty hook, I see. yagotme Mar 2022 #12

This is where we always end up. Paranoia wins out and we have the equivalent of AndyS Mar 2022 #13

Well, let's see... yagotme Mar 2022 #14

ARRRRREERGHGGGH1!111 AndyS Mar 2022 #15

Sheesh. Ok. Google dump coming up. No need to curse. yagotme Mar 2022 #16

Just declare victory and go home. Sources are flawed, so here are my sources to show AndyS Mar 2022 #17

Well, you asked for sources that showed people lie to pollsters. Rather vehemently, too. yagotme Mar 2022 #18

That's not the complaint, the issue is the moving goal posts. nt AndyS Mar 2022 #19

Your OP asked for credible data from sources. yagotme Mar 2022 #20

I'm guessing that all my responses to you will always be insufficient and lacking. what you said . . AndyS Mar 2022 #21

Here's some more data for you to process: yagotme Apr 2022 #23

So many different kinds of gun owners The Mouth Apr 2022 #22