Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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20. I agree about the thread taking a tangent

Wed Jul 19, 2017, 01:45 PM

Jul 2017

I infer that you are in the camp accepting a deeper level of automated control than I am. I can see disallowing exceeding speed limits when the limit is over 45 MPH.

Re: "If one could FORCE their gun to "malfunction", then the problem of criminals stealing other people's guns would still exist."

OTOH a criminal wouldn't have to "force" a gun to malfunction. A criminal would only have to hack the gun. A criminal could just steal one of the 300+ million existing dumb guns.

Back to a minor point: A failing automated system doesn't always know that it's failing. Software uses binary numbers for calculations. An "8" would be 1000 in binary. A speed limit of 85 would be "10000101". Imagine the consequence of the left most "1" being a "0". Suddenly the speed limit changes from 85 to 5.

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Smart guns - survey... sort of [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 OP

It's an interesting analogy, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #1

I thought governors had drivers? Throck Jul 2017 #5

What do you think money grows on trees? ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #6

As I understand the technology... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #7

I agree wrt guns, they are different than cars, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #9

re: "...perhaps a malfunctioning driverless car could just have a set speed limit that is low..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #11

I think we are getting out of hand here. ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #17

I agree about the thread taking a tangent discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #20

I do accept automated control over cars, sure. ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #22

re: "...no need to allow the driver to exceed the speed limit." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #24

I agree in part ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #25

Side benefits (to autonomous cars) would be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #26

I understand the reasoning but bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #2

I don't know, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #3

I prefer to be driving away from the mayhem bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #10

But you are less safe in front of the drunk driver... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #18

what part of driving AWAY from a dangerous bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #27

And what part of ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #28

I'll repeat myself bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #29

I understand you want him behind you, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #33

Pardon my intrusion here discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #30

Ok, but ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #34

I imagine most people... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #36

The discussion is not about sacrificing freedom, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #37

Speed limits are an evolving aspect of the motor vehicle code discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #39

I am unfamiliar with the Ultima GT-R, ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #40

Yes it has seat belts along with a 240 MPH max speed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #41

A separate post for the gun thing ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #35

See my embedded replies below discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #38

I agree discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #8

I think there are too many variables presented while driving. justhanginon Jul 2017 #4

Just a question discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #12

That is a damn good question. I was mulling over some possible justhanginon Jul 2017 #13

Einstein was pretty big on thought experiments discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #14

It seems to me that when you got to full on autonomy you really lose justhanginon Jul 2017 #15

re: "I've been retired for almost twenty years..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #16

The human "ability" is over-rated... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #19

Speed loses much of its value when their is no human moral justhanginon Jul 2017 #21

I don't see it that way at all... ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #23

I like to move with the speed of the traffic. ... spin Jul 2017 #31

Sounds like a safe plan discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #32