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Scrivener7

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Tue Mar 21, 2023, 10:00 AM Mar 2023

Where does the Heart of Darkness come from? [View all]

If you study European history for the last few hundred years, the characteristic described by Conrad as the "Heart of Darkness" is clearly evident.

The need to colonize and enslave, the need to dominate, the lack of qualms about exterminating whole populations of people of different races or customs, the ability to discount the humanity of those they encountered as they moved into North America and Africa.

What do you think is the source of this Heart of Darkness?

I think many will say money, and that is true. But what is it about that particular segment of humanity that allows the desire for money to overcome every other consideration and allows them to leave behind every shred of decency toward other people in the pursuit of it?

Or is this characteristic not unique to European society at all? Is it just a human characteristic? Is it just that circumstances put Europeans in the position to exploit other populations and other populations would do the same if given the chance?

Regardless of who possesses the characteristic, though, where do you think it comes from?



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we are a violent species. mopinko Mar 2023 #1
Yes, Putin is not really an exception historically Walleye Mar 2023 #3
Do you think it was at some point a necessity for survival? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #13
When people get the upper hand they need to push other people around Walleye Mar 2023 #2
it's like w dogs- mopinko Mar 2023 #4
I agree with you on both points there Walleye Mar 2023 #6
well, evolutionary psychology posits mopinko Mar 2023 #12
I never thought of that. Nice. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #15
Evolutionary psychology debunked cbabe Mar 2023 #26
Great article! Thank you. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #30
good article. mopinko Mar 2023 #34
But is that changing? I'm thinking of the women at Abu Ghraib. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #10
yes it is. mopinko Mar 2023 #17
I'm trying to think if I, as a woman, would want to physically dominate people Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #5
I know, but as a rule we physically are superior to children and don't treat them badly Walleye Mar 2023 #7
True. For most of us. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #8
Oh yes that's what makes it so fascinating and so frustrating,a giant moral spectrum good to evil Walleye Mar 2023 #9
And there are backslides. I think we are in a backslide in the US now. That's what prompted the Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #11
i've given it some thought from time to time. lol mopinko Mar 2023 #21
Europe DID go through dreadful suffering for centuries in the middle ages. raging moderate Mar 2023 #14
Everything about European psychology does hark back to Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #16
And re-reading your post, just as violence goes from parent Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #22
Interesting question-I would say it comes from what some call man's original sin - the ego. c-rational Mar 2023 #18
What do you think were the insults to the ego that caused the "othering?" Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #32
Not so much an insult per se, rather just the existence of an ego which fools you into believing c-rational Mar 2023 #33
Fear modrepub Mar 2023 #19
Of what, do you think? I know with Native Americans Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #20
My first known European American immigrant ancestor married an Algonquin lady in Quebec. raging moderate Mar 2023 #23
Of Something Different modrepub Mar 2023 #24
Fear of being absorbed is definitely in there, and we are seeing that surging today. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #31
Conrad believed the origin and true nature of the heart of darkness could never be clearly Martin68 Mar 2023 #25
I did not know this. And he certainly made a study of it. Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #27
Pretty simple orthoclad Mar 2023 #28
I see your point. I'm thinking of, for example, the Sierra Leone civil war or the Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #29
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