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Starry Messenger

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14. Parents who choose schools are defacto more involved in their children's education.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:15 PM
Jul 2012

This is a major factor. As stated, parents who wish to send their children to single sex environments can choose to do so. Parochial schools. Though again, the difference in outcome there will be the pre-selected factor-the parents will already be more involved in their children's schooling than parents who don't search out educational environments for their student.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/issues/parent-involvement/

Parent Involvement




"When schools, families, and community groups work together to support learning, children tend to do better in school, stay in school longer, and like school more." That's the conclusion of a recent report from the Southwest Educational Development Laboratory. The report, a synthesis of research on parent involvement over the past decade, goes on to find that, regardless of family income or background, "students with involved parents are more likely to:

Earn higher grades and test scores, and enroll in higher-level programs;
Be promoted, pass their classes, and earn credits;
Attend school regularly;
Have better social skills, show improved behavior, and adapt well to school; and
Graduate and go on to postsecondary education" (Henderson & Mapp, 2002).



Also from the snippet you quoted:


She does, however, acknowledge that her data are compromised, as her highest-performing teachers and her most-motivated students have chosen single-sex.


http://articles.boston.com/2011-09-25/bostonglobe/30201500_1_brain-scan-boys-and-girls-neuroscience/2

The single-sex school myth
OP-ED | Gareth Cook
No scientific basis for teaching boys and girls separately, report says



Still, supporters of segregated classrooms now have a substantial academic record to confront. There are many hundreds of studies, of varying quality and with results across the spectrum. In the larger and better of these any apparent advantages tend to evaporate.

And we pay a price in segregating the sexes. Boys and girls learn from each other, and that prepares them for the world. Being separated cannot help but emphasize differences.

We need more experimentation in public schools, so perhaps there is a place for a small number of single sex classrooms or schools. But when they work, let’s at least be honest about the reason.

“We are not denying that there are some excellent single-sex schools,’’ says Halpern. “But their excellence does not come from the fact that they are single-sex.’’



http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/10/17/single-sex-schools-separate-but-equal/what-our-research-on-single-sex-education-shows

What Our Research Shows




<snip>

Now these advocates are emphasizing “social justice” as their rationale, arguing that parents who cannot afford private, elite single-sex education deserve comparable educational options. But this argument is hollow given the evidence that single-sex schooling has nothing to do with a school’s success. Certainly, there is great social injustice in the quality differences between elite private schools and many public schools, but this injustice is never going to be remedied by segregating the sexes.

We and many other scientists and educators agree with the U.S. Department of Education’s demand for “educational practitioners to use ‘scientifically-based research’ to guide their decisions about which interventions to implement.” Anecdotes do not meet this standard but are frequently used to support single-sex schooling. If modern science has learned anything, it is to be highly skeptical of anecdotes.

The preponderance of scientific evidence indicates that single-sex education fails to produce academic benefits and inflates gender stereotyping.



For myself as an educator and an activist, I work for economic justice in the community. I don't think it is pointless to worry about it. It is all part of the same system.

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my radical ideas handmade34 Jul 2012 #1
"Most destructive is age (discrimination): Yes! Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #27
The results of single sex classrooms have been positive. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #2
Also negative- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #3
The FCAT itself is notoriously unreliable- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #4
More on the studies of Leonard Sax, the web owner of Single Sex Schools- Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #5
Thank you for posting this obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #6
In addition, Sax's website even twists court decisions obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #7
Justice Ginsburg lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #13
So you agree Sax's website twists the VMI case's decsiion? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #17
I'm working on the assumption that you asked a question lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #18
The feminist case for SS classrooms is that is has been shown to increase girls test scores 30%. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #8
"Teaching Boys and Girls Separately" Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #9
Schools can't do anything about socioeconomic status of the families living in the district. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #11
Parents who choose schools are defacto more involved in their children's education. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #14
"Pseudoscience in Sax on Sex" Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #10
I'm more persuaded by arguments that refute the outcomes. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #12
Jeff, I am politely asking you to knock it off, now obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #15
It's worse. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #16
From the president of Bryn Mawr. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #19
Bryn Mawr is not a public school. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #20
The "why" matters, else it's hard to ascribe the outcome to the intervention. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #22
In this case, both the blue eyed and brown eyed students tested better. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #23
You missed the point about eye color but bias is one way that data can be corrupted. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #24
I don't think I did. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #25
Without at least a strong correlation it's just a guess. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #29
I agree to this extent. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #30
Do banks issue Mortgages based upon gender or income, payment histories etc? One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #21
Very bad idea. nt ladjf Jul 2012 #26
I'm so damn tired of everything being politicized. xfundy Jul 2012 #28
I thought we figured out that "Separate but Equal" kdmorris Jul 2012 #31
Public education in the US has been co-ed since the early 1900's too. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #32
I have three daughters, as well kdmorris Jul 2012 #33
Perfectly stated! Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #34
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