Anybody want to share opinions re ufos?

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5. I wish there was hard evidence, too

and I tend to think that if aliens visited Earth, we wouldn't know about it, as they might look like anything; ashtrays, for example. I don't think that intelligent life that evolved completely separate from our planet would look "humanoid" at all, and certainly not like these grays they speak about. Advanced intelligent life I think would probably have melded with machines and the machines themselves might have taken on an organic aspect and wouldn't look like heavy and rigid pieces of metal.

But 12 light years I think would be easily negotiated by an advanced civilization that could travel at a considerable fraction of the speed of light. And if the members of these civilizations are virtually immortal, they might have evolved a different perception of time than humans and several years of travel might appear normal to them. Also, if they are truly an advanced space culture, their empires would probably have spanned many light years of space over the millennia, so that coming to Earth might not involve that much distance.

But until there's something more substantial than photos, radar images, burnt and irradiated patches on the ground at supposed landings and the like (I want an actual craft or pilot) I will not easily accept that they've come to Earth yet. And maybe like scientist Jacques Vallee suggests, they are not extraterrestrials at all but something far stranger, something we haven't thought of yet.