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William Seger

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5. Really?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:22 AM
Nov 2015

I watched a few minutes of the Honneger Show. She starts her presentation by claiming that PNAC "actually called in one of their publications for a new Pearl Harbor" and then she reads the infamous quote that definitely does mention Pearl Harbor. But as evil as the neocons are -- and they are -- that quote certainly doesn't "call for a new Pearl Harbor," which would be a rather stupid thing to do in a policy paper published on their website, anyway. The neocons are evil because they didn't hesitate to exploit 9/11 for their own ends (and I take the quote as implying they're okay with that), but here Honneger tries to pass off her paranoid and unsubstantiated interpretation of that quote as "actually" a fact and evidence that they planned the attack. Strike one.

Next, Honneger informs us that a year before 9/11, Aaron Russo was told by Nicolas Rockefeller "of the Rockefeller family" that an attack was going to happen. One serious problem with the story is that there isn't any Nicholas Rockefeller among the descendants of John D. Rockefeller, the railroad robber baron, and Russo seems to be the only person who knows this guy. It's also hard to imagine why a Rockefeller would reveal the "family" plans to control the world to a wingnut Libertarian tax resister and conspiracy nut like Aaron Russo, anyway, and why Russo would wait five years to "reveal" this damning information -- and to reveal it to Alex Jones, no less, rather than a legitimate news source (or at least a sane person). Sorry, but Russo's story has no credibility whatsoever, except among those who really, really wish they could find some evidence of a conspiracy and bullshit is good enough for them -- which apparently includes Honneger, so strike two for her credibility.

Next up, Honneger claims that PNAC had Rumsfeld "prepare the ground for seeing 9/11 as a 'surprise attack'" by handing out copies of a 1962 book on Pearl Harbor "pushing the false 'surprise attack' and 'intelligence failures' line" -- Honneger is a Pearl Harbor conspiracy nut too -- written by the wife of a "Zionist war hawk." Furthermore, Hollywood abetted this scheme by releasing the movie Pearl Harbor in early 2001.

We're only three claims into Honneger's talk and we're already knee-deep in bullshit. I pulled the plug on that video at that point, but I have read about other nonsense that Honneger peddles, like claiming that Rumsfeld was trying to cover up a "missing" 2.3 trillion dollars, and the astounding logic that a few minutes difference in the time shown on wall clocks found in the Pentagon debris proves that there was more than one "event." Apparently this crackerjack researcher didn't look very far into that "missing" claim, and perhaps she should investigate how wall clocks know what time it is.

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k/r Honneger has done excellent work nationalize the fed Nov 2015 #1
On 911 the first news I heard about the attacks milestogo Nov 2015 #3
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Really? William Seger Nov 2015 #5
2.3 trillion milestogo Nov 2015 #6
Why don't you take a few minutes... William Seger Nov 2015 #7
who runs that horseshit site william? wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #8
The sources of all the information on that site are very carefully cited William Seger Nov 2015 #9
k & r & thanks! n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #2
K&R n/t Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2015 #10
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