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Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
43. I can't get there from here
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:55 AM
Dec 2012

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I just can't agree.

Sexism, bigotry, and misogyny (or misandry) are three different things with generally three different meanings. I say generally because while you can use those three words interchangeably in some situations, you can't use them interchangeably in all situations.

The most common uses of those three words go something like this...

Sexism is discrimination based on gender. It refers to action and has less to do with thoughts or feelings. People can say or do sexist things without even knowing it.

Bigotry is intolerance of a group, in this case the group is gender. It has to do with the state of mind and how you think and/or how you apply those thoughts.

Misogyny is the hatred of women.

Sexism is fairly easy to prove because it relates to action. If someone calls Palin a word that rhymes with 4th and long, or describes the function of Limbaugh's sex organs, that is sexism. I don't have to dive into what they are thinking or what their intent was to prove this. If you utter a sexist slur, you are employing sexism. It's that simple.

Bigotry relates to thought and/or the application of that thought. If someone claimed women are prone to hysteria, or men lack empathy, that's probably bigotry unless their intent was something else, then we are back to sexism. It's also sexism regardless because it's hard to imagine the effect wasn't discriminatory. Bigotry generally applies to the entire gender because it has to do with intolerance of an entire gender.

Misogyny is bigotry taken to the extreme. It's hard to imagine a misogynist who wasn't also a bigot just as it's hard to imagine a misogynist who doesn't employ sexism.

Here's the #1 definitions from Webster's site. You can decide for yourself.

Definition of SEXISM
1: prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women
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Definition of BIGOTRY
1: the state of mind of a bigot
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Definition of MISOGYNY
: a hatred of women

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Only some of us. Scuba Dec 2012 #1
Huh? n/t unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #2
Just forget about it.. Upton Dec 2012 #3
Why are the subjects of rape and abortion unwelcoming? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #4
I find your online behavior to be generally cowardly. Bonobo Dec 2012 #6
I'm sorry that you have grown a new misogynist in the men's group. Nt. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #7
Link please. Bonobo Dec 2012 #8
None so blind as those wont see. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #9
Yeah, you've used that one before. Bonobo Dec 2012 #10
Keep up the personal insults. It's very manly. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #11
You have many odd ideas about what manly means. Bonobo Dec 2012 #12
...and most of them appear to be sexist Major Nikon Dec 2012 #22
So is sexism, apparently Major Nikon Dec 2012 #21
Does this mean we can flip this one with Iverglas as the obvious example? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #20
rape is wrong and abortion should be the decision of the pregnant woman. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #13
So far the person I replied to has nothing else to say. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #15
Does this mean you're going to be teaching empathy classes? Upton Dec 2012 #17
exactly Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #18
I see you spend the majority of your time in the guns group. Upton Dec 2012 #26
You have identified what is probably his central defining characteristic. Bonobo Dec 2012 #29
Pancho! Bring Don Quixote his armor! lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #35
What did I *not* say, now? Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #19
We are all collectively guilty for not answering everything here in this forum. nt Bonobo Dec 2012 #23
I get that alot. Along with the "I'm putting the words I wish you would say, in your mouth" move. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #24
I was at college; you know, unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #27
Correction. That is not why I think you're an asshole. Bonobo Dec 2012 #32
Because the topics are posed as Kobayashi Maru scenarios and not discussions. Gore1FL Dec 2012 #25
Its not just rape and abortion HuskiesHowls Dec 2012 #5
I'm convinced there are those on DU who will use whatever means at their disposal to crush dissent Major Nikon Dec 2012 #41
You are correct the word "sexism" is not in the TOS. Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #42
I can't get there from here Major Nikon Dec 2012 #43
Abortion is the business of the pregnant woman. End of story. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #14
The problem with much of the "rape culture" rhetoric is because we are unequivocally against rape. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #34
But we are told "IF YOU DON'T RAPE....WHY SO MADZ???" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #37
I still haven't seen a broad sociological 'rape culture' explanation that accounts for Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #38
This is classic sexism Major Nikon Dec 2012 #16
i saw that bullshit too. wtf ive no idea what world some people live in loli phabay Dec 2012 #28
Each time you hear a poster talk about "them over in the Men's Group"... Bonobo Dec 2012 #30
Right. Let me try to sort it out in a linear fashion, for everyone. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #31
I read that rape admission thread unreadierLizard Dec 2012 #33
Most of it is Meta group bullshit ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Dec 2012 #39
Although, no one on this planet would be harmed by trying to be more empathic tomorrow Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #40
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