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Warren DeMontague

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23. I don't think that's the subtext in the group, at all.

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:05 PM

Oct 2013

And I'd be more inclined to listen to the hyperbolic statements some people make about this group, if my memory wasn't so good about some of the flat-out bs that has been said about it, in the past.

For instance, I remember a full 3 weeks of shit-flinging outrage in meta during the Daniel Tosh thing about how "now they're defending rape jokes in the mens group". Except there was only one problem. No one in the group did anything even remotely resembling that. In fact, everyone condemned Daniel Tosh and his rape joke.

So I don't exactly take the DU cottage industry of complaining about the horrible awful no-good mens group all that seriously. Especially because when prompted to point out the exact objectionable stuff, people usually dissemble and have to infer things that aren't actually written.

The bottom line is, some people have a problem with the existence of this group period. That seems pretty clear to me.

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More men are raped in the US than women, figures on prison assaults reveal... [View all] Upton Oct 2013 OP

Maybe rape will be much less funnier now to some of us. marble falls Oct 2013 #1

I guess the OP went so far over your head that it wasn't even visible. nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #3

Who EVER said it was funny? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #4

Yes. Bonobo Oct 2013 #5

Gotcha. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #6

I've certainly seen it on DU Major Nikon Oct 2013 #11

Yeah, but less so lately.The community has, by and large, figured out that it's not okay. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #12

Count on the conservatives to condone prison rape. radicalliberal Oct 2013 #2

I don't believe it's just conservatives.. Upton Oct 2013 #7

And not just prison. Bonobo Oct 2013 #8

All true.. Upton Oct 2013 #9

Some seem to think pointing that out is the SAME as denying that there is sexism Bonobo Oct 2013 #10

For a crime that is mostly committed by men, this makes perfect sense, actually CreekDog Oct 2013 #13

Then lets talk about the victims. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #14

No, are you saying in society as a whole they are most victims? CreekDog Oct 2013 #15

Are you saying male rape victims don't deserve to be called victims? Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #16

Absolutely not. Male victims of rape are victims CreekDog Oct 2013 #17

That's good to hear. Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #18

I agree with BTA. It seems you're reading some subtext into the OP Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #19

This group is based on subtext CreekDog Oct 2013 #22

I don't think that's the subtext in the group, at all. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #23

My problem is about the same as if there were a "Whites group" on DU CreekDog Oct 2013 #24

You sort of contradict your own point, there. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #25

Yep, that's about the long and short of it. Bonobo Oct 2013 #31

I would consider blocking you from the Group, but you are doing such an effective job Bonobo Oct 2013 #30

The irony reaches the point of hilarity Major Nikon Nov 2013 #37

I agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #40

Que the fallacious conflation with racial discrimination Major Nikon Nov 2013 #32

Someone has to vanquish the boogeyman Major Nikon Nov 2013 #36

And boognish the vanquiman, too! Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #38

That's what the article says and the math isn't all that difficult Major Nikon Oct 2013 #20

I'm not really sure what you're getting at.. Upton Oct 2013 #21

are most rapes committed by men? CreekDog Oct 2013 #26

So because the victims are men too, they deserve no consideration? n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #33

I would say that certainly seems to be the implication.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #34

yes, they do and i'm sure you agree as demonstrated by your many posts against rape of women CreekDog Nov 2013 #35

Ad hominem. Weak. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #39

you want a medal because you never posted an eyeroll smiley about a woman being raped? CreekDog Nov 2013 #41

Civil rights laws aren't gender specific Major Nikon Nov 2013 #42

Nobody needs to get a medal for not posting an eyeroll in response to rape ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #43

why don't you post a poll in GD asking whether DU thinks prison rape is wrong CreekDog Oct 2013 #27

You can post your own push poll.. Upton Oct 2013 #28

Who said anything about what feminists do or don't think on the issue? Major Nikon Oct 2013 #29