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EdmondDantes_

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15. It was a weird take

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 23, 2025, 02:01 PM

Jul 23

For whatever conflict I have with that the same area is a holy area for 3 religions and the conflict that dividing that area creates, Israel absolutely has a right to exist. One of the things history teaches is that a people without a state will struggle. Look at Chinese treatment of minorities, European and American treatment of native populations, nazi treatment of Jews, Roma, etc.

I disagree with some of the Israeli government's actions, but I do that with every government.

That does mean I also believe the Palestinians should have their own state, but their leaders unfortunately have made it really difficult to trust them with that. And that's before even trying to figure out how to divide the holy sites and make sure that Hamas doesn't become the government of a Palestinian state since their mission statement is no Israel and a commitment to violent ends.

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Israel Lawmakers vote 71-13 in favor of non-binding motion calling for West Bank annexation [View all] David__77 Jul 23 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #1

Isn't that also the homeland of Arabs/Palestinians? brush Jul 23 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #8

That's a toughie. All the way back to the Balfour Declaration and the right of return... brush Jul 23 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #13

Nice. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. But you don't think it's worth trying? brush Jul 23 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #17

You're kidding? You would leave? Where would you go? brush Jul 23 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #22

Good luck if you leave, K.D. Nice talking with you. brush Jul 23 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #27

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That seems to imply Israel should not exist sarisataka Jul 23 #10

It was a weird take EdmondDantes_ Jul 23 #15

Opening the door for full-scale Bettie Jul 23 #4

AGREE! but i would never want to vacation in those resorts. bluestarone Jul 23 #5

And with Western comp,icity malaise Jul 23 #11

What next? Lebanon? Jordan? Syria? Chicago? Ping Tung Jul 23 #6

Just expanding their ethnic cleansing purr-rat beauty Jul 23 #7

The motion is for debating the proposed agenda in the Knesset. Beastly Boy Jul 23 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jul 23 #14

That Alarming Poll Showing 82% of Israelis Back Gazans' Expulsion? It's Wrong Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #18

Fair enough. I will pull the reply as that link raises legimate concerns. Celerity Jul 23 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #23

I have always tried to be a good faith poster. Not perfect, not close, but I try. Celerity Jul 23 #26

If this fantasy is carried out John Farmer Jul 23 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 23 #24

In a one-state solution, they should, but that idea is regularly dismissed because of Palestinian's sky-high birthrate. maxsolomon Jul 23 #28