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Doodley

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Fri Jun 27, 2025, 03:36 PM Jun 2025

UPDATE AFTER MEETING MAGA! Ref: I'm meeting a MAGA tonight. If you had to tell him what is wrong with MAGA [View all]

Last edited Sun Jun 29, 2025, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

in a brief sentence, what would you say? Something that is hard for a MAGA to argue about. It could be phrased as a statement or a question. Thank you to anyone who helps! Also, I don't want to insult him or call him names!




UPDATE AFTER MEETING


Sorry if this gets boring!

Thank you for all the replies. I took them all on board.

Okay, we went half-an-hour general catching up and friendly chit chat, me my wife, her MAGA cousin and his wife. I bit my tongue a few times as my wife said she rarely sees her cousin and doesn't want a bust up (that I have a history of). Then my wife mentioned how we had been to Israel when she threw a coin in a pond and wish I'd propose to her.

Her cousin then asked what we thought about Iran and Israel and Trump bombing nuclear sites. Well, I wasn't going to let that pass. He did ask. I said everything I wanted to say about that, despite my wife giving me the eye and gritting her teeth. I just kept talking. I said Trump had warned Iran through his social media posts, how Iran therefore had the time to get uranium and equipment out, and how he's not interested in the facts of how much damage was done to their program, and what that means about how genuine Trump's concern is. The shocker was that my wife's cousin agreed and said he was very unhappy that Trump was getting involved after saying he wouldn't get get involved in any wars. As he talked, I literally couldn't control my emotions and felt my eyes welling up. He was so pissed at Trump about this. I felt relief that he could see fault in Trump and maybe other MAGAs can too.

I followed it up by saying that under the BB bill millions would lose in Medicaid cuts and it would hit hospitals and nursing homes, and people would die, but people making millions would be better off and the national debt would soar as a result. He argued about it and said he didn't think that what I was saying was true. I had been very emotional and my wife chipped in and said that I would lose my marketplace healthcare tax credit (she's okay because she's on disability). I asked her cousin to do some research to find out and let me know what he finds. I asked in the nicest way. He agreed. At that point, the conversation turned towards my wife's aunt who has been sick, and I felt I would not say anything to jeopardize the agreement we had that he would look at the effects of the BBB.

Thank you again to everyone. Obviously, it didn't go as expected. It was the best MAGA meeting I've had, as usually I come up against a wall of MAGA catchphrases and misinformation and voices get raised or yelling ensues. He's been a hardline MAGA and there are cracks there. It gave me a little bit of optimism.



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MAGA has driven a stake into the soul of America Arazi Jun 2025 #1
I agree... kentuck Jun 2025 #4
MAGA has diminished the US in every way Arazi Jun 2025 #10
Yes! People don't want to come to America anymore. We are in a deep recession when it comes to international travel and Doodley Jun 2025 #17
The most disgusting and stupid piece of shit on earth Eliot Rosewater Jun 2025 #76
"With all I have respect, my position is MAGA people have not researched... chouchou Jun 2025 #2
How about taxi Jun 2025 #3
Good one! Doodley Jun 2025 #18
Yes, great point, and to put it more bluntly, TheProle Jun 2025 #49
By the time you learn the truth, it will be too late. kentuck Jun 2025 #5
MAGA is against both the US Constitution and the Bible. haele Jun 2025 #6
Good points! Thanks. Doodley Jun 2025 #19
MAGA does not believe in the rule of law. surfered Jun 2025 #7
Quote Stephen Colbert to him, just don't tell him who said this: A HERETIC I AM Jun 2025 #8
Yes, Jesus didn't ask to see anyone's paperwork before helping them. Doodley Jun 2025 #20
MAGA should read the Constitution. Vinca Jun 2025 #9
Tell them you agree with Trump's green nuclear power position, measure knowledge and response uponit7771 Jun 2025 #11
Good idea! Doodley Jun 2025 #21
I would say "Sorry, we can't meet tonight. I don't hang out with fascist trash." Prairie Gates Jun 2025 #12
I would like to do that! Doodley Jun 2025 #22
Bingo! UTUSN Jun 2025 #28
I do not support fascism, racism, misogyny, or homophobia, and it hurts my heart that you do. cadoman Jun 2025 #13
Good ideas. I will make it in the third person, so I will say: "I don't understand the hate many MAGAs have, I Doodley Jun 2025 #23
That's weasel wording. It's not true that vanlassie Jun 2025 #39
Well, there IS that. calimary Jun 2025 #78
Our ancestors fought Nazis in WWII, and MAGA has become the very same, very unAmerican people. Efilroft Sul Jun 2025 #14
I'd have to first question why I'm "meeting a MAGA tonight" before flvegan Jun 2025 #15
Wife's cousin. I have to support my wife because I love her, and won't support her by boycotting her family. Doodley Jun 2025 #25
I still would not do it. Wifes husband Jun 2025 #53
That's how I was thinking, but I went it was okay. Doodley Jun 2025 #64
I had a simular experience with my brother in law Wifes husband Jun 2025 #83
So confronting this MAGA cousin like this is going to flvegan Jun 2025 #63
I have caused family gatherings to end badly. I have to walk the line. Doodley Jun 2025 #66
Fox news is lying to you Tribetime Jun 2025 #16
And they had to pay 3/4 of a billion $$ for lying to their audience. -nt CrispyQ Jun 2025 #59
I hope they have to pay the same again to Gavin Newsom! Doodley Jun 2025 #67
"Would you let ICE deport a US citizen if they looked a certain ethnicity?" sakabatou Jun 2025 #24
they put Trump above country Skittles Jun 2025 #26
Do you think it is acceptable Brenda Jun 2025 #27
That is a good question. Doodley Jun 2025 #68
I can't think of anything that Trump has done, or proposed to do, to help Americans live a better life, except perhaps.. FadedMullet Jun 2025 #29
I believe in checks and balances. Qutzupalotl Jun 2025 #30
Very good question! Doodley Jun 2025 #69
FWIW, since it's family, I would avoid a political discussion... anciano Jun 2025 #31
That's what a good German would do. CrispyQ Jun 2025 #60
I agree with your sentiment. I have caused many bust ups in family gatherings, but what does it achieve? Nothing. Doodley Jun 2025 #70
ICE agents wear masks to hide their identities and they refuse to show ID. Lonestarblue Jun 2025 #32
Take the opposite approach and crank up the crazy to 11 Kaleva Jun 2025 #33
That's where we're heading. Doodley Jun 2025 #71
The only problem there is - they won't get it. calimary Jun 2025 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jun 2025 #34
I just avoid politics with my MAGA friends womanofthehills Jun 2025 #35
Sounds like your MAGA friends are polite and the OP is facing one who is not Arazi Jun 2025 #36
That is exactly what I am used to. Please see my updated OP. Things didn't go as expected. Doodley Jun 2025 #72
I saw that and well done! Arazi Jun 2025 #74
Agree. anciano Jun 2025 #37
MAGA and friend don't exist in my world Bluestocking Jun 2025 #45
I will not have a MAGA as a friend Wifes husband Jun 2025 #65
Since I had to meet with you, I did. gordianot Jun 2025 #38
I fill up with dread and revulsion having to meet some of my wife's family. Doodley Jun 2025 #73
No respect for the constitution and American values Mysterian Jun 2025 #40
"Sorry I can't meet tonight. I'm grieving for the Great American Experiment." Hekate Jun 2025 #41
Accept that you cannot accomplish this goal. Raven123 Jun 2025 #42
Why focus on why MAGA's wrong, instead of looking for common cause? snot Jun 2025 #43
Many good points. Please see my OP with an update of how it went. We found some common ground. Doodley Jun 2025 #75
Screw that Wifes husband Jun 2025 #82
Why are you all so angry? mcar Jun 2025 #44
When did you discard John Farmer Jun 2025 #46
Ooooooh, that's a good one! calimary Jun 2025 #80
They are taking over preserves and parks to build detention centers. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2025 #47
Why on earth are you spending time with a MAGA? hamsterjill Jun 2025 #48
The tax cuts and tariffs are going to be a big loser soon. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2025 #50
I agree with that! Doodley Jun 2025 #77
Mirror OC375 Jun 2025 #51
Be weary and self-reflective purple_haze Jun 2025 #52
If everything that the republicans do is okay with you UpInArms Jun 2025 #54
The billionaire class is stealing from the working class and the poor. berniesandersmittens Jun 2025 #55
Insult the bastard. Jirel Jun 2025 #56
I'd ask.... SuzyandPuffpuff Jun 2025 #57
Fuc ... drop dea ...er ... I ust can't do it. marble falls Jun 2025 #58
"It seems you are OK with hundreds of thousands Abolishinist Jun 2025 #61
Well . . . hatrack Jun 2025 #62
Ooooooooh, that stings. calimary Jun 2025 #81
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