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In reply to the discussion: Has American politics moved enough to the point where AOC (or someone like her) can win a presidential election? [View all]kwolf68
(8,119 posts)17. Whoever it is
HAS to go through a legitimate primary season. This is one reason we failed in 2024. I like Harris, I really do, but she needed to go through a primary against other competent Democratic opponents. To win a primary you have to win a cross section of a lot of people in a lot of areas. Just handing it to Harris (and I realize there was no real time for a primary) was really blind faith.
Do NOT get me wrong, I truly think Kamala Harris was awesome and would have been an amazing President, but that's me, that's not everyone. A primary likely exposes her vulnerabilities with certain elements of the electorate (and no, i WILL NOT argue against racism and misogyny playing a part as there is no doubt in my mind it did).
Thing is...we needed to know that. Sad as hell as it is, a primary likely eliminates her. There were other difficult issues with the Harris campaign they didn't effectively navigate. I still don't understand why Biden didn't run in 2016. He'd have been perfect at that time. Biden, when he was on his game, was as good as it gets as a debater and a campaigner. An absolute stud. Which made his demise all the more heart breaking.
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Has American politics moved enough to the point where AOC (or someone like her) can win a presidential election? [View all]
In It to Win It
Jun 16
OP
Yeah, but once upon a time, we thought someone like Trump wouldn't win until he did
In It to Win It
Jun 16
#2
Despite my OP, my point is really about her policy positions rather than her spefically
In It to Win It
Jun 16
#6
Agreed, and I don't mean AOC only, but also anyone that has the economic populism like she does
In It to Win It
Jun 16
#21
Republicans are cultists and would crawl over broken glass to vote for Hillary Clinton if she ran as a Republican.
W_HAMILTON
Jun 16
#23
NYT poll: 47% of voters described Kamala Harris as "too liberal or progressive"
emulatorloo
Jun 16
#3
There is a link to a Gallup poll in one of the comments that says 51% thought Obama was too liberal
In It to Win It
Jun 16
#7
Not a chance. I'd gladly vote for her, but the US voters generally would not. Even the Dems in the House wouldn't vote
tblue37
Jun 16
#8
How about her economic policy positions coming out of someone else's mouth?
In It to Win It
Jun 16
#10
Only if the messaging is more effective than it has been from too many of our Dems. They would need to avoid
tblue37
Jun 16
#13
Ok, not her, but someone like her who is more qualified and more experienced?
In It to Win It
Jun 16
#14
If she, or they, win primaries they definitely have a chance. Not sure how much chance at this point.
Silent Type
Jun 16
#24
She's currently more popular than anyone else in the Democratic party (except Barack & Michelle Obama).
LudwigPastorius
Jun 17
#31