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Zorro

(18,321 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:31 AM 5 hrs ago

The latest government inflation and GDP figures are worthless, and will be for months to come

The federal government’s monthly releases of economic statistics — especially the inflation rate and growth as tracked by gross domestic product — have long occasioned partisan preening (or denunciation) and for a general public stock-taking of the health of the economy.

Not this month. This time, they’re the occasion for doubt and confusion.

On Dec. 18, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that inflation had fallen to an annual rate of 2.7% in November, down from 3% in September and well below the 3.1% consensus of economists. And on Tuesday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis reported that real gross domestic product had shot up by a surprising 4.3% annual rate in the third quarter of 2025 ended Sept. 30.

Unsurprisingly, the Trump administration and its Republican acolytes seized on the figures to boast about Trump’s economic policies. White House economic advisor Kevin Hassett proclaimed the inflation figure to be “an absolute blockbuster report.” He described the GDP figure as “a great Christmas present for the American people.”

“America is winning again,” crowed House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) after the GDP report. He called it “the direct result of congressional Republicans and President Trump delivering policies that drive growth and expand opportunity for American families and workers.”

Um, not so fast.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-12-25/the-latest-government-inflation-and-gdp-figures-are-worthless-and-will-be-for-months-to-come

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The latest government inflation and GDP figures are worthless, and will be for months to come (Original Post) Zorro 5 hrs ago OP
I've watched CNBC the last few days. They and their investment experts are drinking the kool-aid. Midnight Writer 5 hrs ago #1
Here's a non-paywalled link to the article Wiz Imp 3 hrs ago #2

Midnight Writer

(25,124 posts)
1. I've watched CNBC the last few days. They and their investment experts are drinking the kool-aid.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:45 AM
5 hrs ago

I have not heard one person on the network question the validity of these "surprising" numbers, even though the fact that Trump fired all the people who gave real data and replaced them with hand-picked sycophants is well known.

Wiz Imp

(8,766 posts)
2. Here's a non-paywalled link to the article
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 12:41 PM
3 hrs ago
https://www.aol.com/news/hiltzik-latest-government-inflation-gdp-110000684.html

I see we already have at least one person jumping on the "Trump fired all the people who gave real data and replaced them with hand-picked sycophants" so the data is fake bus. Sorry, but that is 100% not true and if you read the article, the economists who are criticizing the data are NOT accusing the data of being fake.

Some BLS staff resigned/retired but people were NOT fired for refusing to go along with Trump. And the people who left were not replaced at all (there is a hiring freeze) so that is actually one of the issues with the data - there are not enough people to do process all the data properly.

I really wish people would get it into their heads that it would be almost imppossible for the Trump administration to "fake" data. It is not happening, and if an attempt is made to do it in the future, it will be outed immediately.

The key takeaway from the article is this:
The economists whose jobs involve scrutinizing those statistics to glean what they really mean don't view them as unalloyed support for Trumponomics. Quite the contrary. Many see them as artifacts of the long government shutdown, which halted the collection of data that go into those reports, severely distorting the results. Furthermore, they expect the flaws in those reports to persist well into 2026, undermining their usefulness as true economic indicators.



Here's some of the REAL criticisms from the article:

The highest-earning 10% of households now account for nearly half of all consumer spending, according to Moody's Analytics. That's the highest level since the data began to be collected in the 1980s, when the rich accounted for only about one-third of spending.

This is significantly skewing the GDP making it look higher than but in reality not indicating a healthy economy for most of the population.

The government shutdown, which lasted 43 days from Oct. 1 to Nov. 12, was the most important cause of gaps in the collected data for the consumer price index calculation. As Swonk noted in a social media post, cutbacks at the BLS had already reduced the staff assigned to sampling prices by 25%. That prompted the agency to substitute "imputed" numbers for hard data. "Those cases can show up as zeros in the percent change of the release," Swonk wrote — obviously lowering the bottom-line figure. A sampling scheduled for mid-October had to be canceled, so figures dating from August were used instead — concealing any price increases in subsequent months.
A major problem concerns housing costs, which account for about one-third of the data inputs for the CPI. Because the BLS was unable to collect rental data for October, it implied that the monthly change in rents was 0% in October — further skewing the reported CPI lower. Experts say it will take at least six months to use newly collected data to provide a reliable estimate of housing inflation.


The delay in sampling, Swonk adds, means that some seasonal price phenomena were missed. She points specifically to airfares — the originally scheduled sampling would have incorporated a pre-Thanksgiving run-up in fares, but by the time the data were collected fares had returned to a non-holiday level. Inflation data also are incorporated into GDP estimates — the lower the inflation rate, Swonk notes, the better the GDP looks. An artificially reduced inflation rate will translate into higher reported GDP growth.


Much more in the article.

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