NATO is done if Trump invades Greenland, Danish PM warns
Source: Politico (EU)
January 5, 2026 6:07 pm CET
If U.S. President Donald Trump invades Greenland, it will spell the end of NATO, Denmarks leader warned.
Trump, who last week ratcheted up threats to take over the self-ruling Danish territory in the Arctic, should be taken seriously when he says that he wants Greenland, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said in an interview with broadcaster TV2. But I will also make it clear that if the U.S. chooses to attack another NATO country militarily, then everything stops, including NATO and thus the security that has been established since the end of the Second World War, Frederiksen added.
Trump has long pushed for the mineral-rich island, which is largely autonomous but part of Denmark and therefore belongs to the NATO military alliance, to join the U.S., calling it a strategic necessity and refusing to rule out using force or economic coercion.
We need Greenland from a national security situation, he told reporters on Air Force One on Sunday. We will deal with Greenland in about two months. Lets talk about Greenland in 20 days, he added, without giving more information about what would happen then.
Read more: https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-done-if-us-donald-trump-invades-greenland-denmark-pm-mette-frederiksen-warns/
Lebensraum.
(a word my history/polisci mom used to reference all the time when I was growing up, in reference to WW2, which she grew up during)
Lovie777
(21,762 posts)but I see a trap tho.
FakeNoose
(40,177 posts)And that's exactly what Pootie is hoping to accomplish in all of this.
Obviously we cannot allow this to happen.
ificandream
(11,688 posts)That spells one of the reasons Trump is doing this shit.
ShazzieB
(22,214 posts)The implications of the U.S. not being part of NATO is terrifying to contemplate, but it's what Schlump wants. Because "America first blah blah blah."

LudwigPastorius
(14,166 posts)obligated to defend it under Article 5.
There is more than a good chance that countries who have been historical allies of the United States are not going to saddle up and start shooting down American planes and bombing American troops.
Collective security is the core reason for the existence of NATO. Once that pledge is breached or ignored, the alliance is essentially done.
marble falls
(71,083 posts)vapor2
(3,765 posts)As of 2025, Lumina was digging for anorthosite, and KoBold, financed by Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and other billionaires for nickel.[30] Critical Metals Corporation has been operating a mine in southern Greenland, backed by Cantor Fitzgerald of which Howard Lutnick has been the firms chief executive prior to becoming commerce secretary in 2025.[30]
hedda_foil
(16,905 posts)angrychair
(11,686 posts)Mango Mussolini is going to start WWIII with all this BS. Invading Venezuela. Threatening to invade Cuba and Greenland and Mexico, is absolutely bonkers. I mean pure, unadulterated insanity.
We cannot allow spineless politicians in Congress, regardless of what letter is after their name, to do anything but utterly condemn and ridicule this nonsense.
If your respective Congress critter wrote or said anything that was not overt condemnation, in my opinion you should be looking for a new Congress critter.
iemanja
(57,387 posts)Does he not realize one of the governing principles in US foreign policy has not been to disrupt Mexico because of the certainty of migrants coming over the border in overwhelming numbers? (Not since Pershing chased around Pancho Villa anyway).
Polybius
(21,511 posts)At least with the others, he can use the "drugs" excuse or something. With Greenland, he says he just wants it.
AZProgressive
(29,852 posts)The Mexican President won her election in a landslide so she was Democratically elected.
There are more effective ways to combat drugs than fighting international drug wars. The best thing we can do is deal with the demand inside our borders. Claudia Sheinbaum pointed out which is something I doubt Trump will mention is that most of the people caught attempting to bring drugs across the US-Mexico border into the US are US citizens.
durablend
(8,897 posts)Shit must be absolutely damning.
quakerboy
(14,714 posts)Putin wants nato "done" and has given trump orders to that effect.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,045 posts)The other NATO nations must stop their diplomatic pussyfooting and simply say that if the US invades Greenland, they will consider it an Article 5 act of aggression, and respond with all appropriate force. Each non-US NATO nation should deploy a small number of troops, say about 100 troops from each country for a total of 3000 troops in Greenland, so that it is crystal clear that, if the US attacks Greenland, it is attacking all the other NATO nations too.
All US personnel stationed on Greenland should be immediately confined to their base, and restricted from travel anywhere else in the country.
Furthermore, the EU and Japan should declare that, unless the US unequivocally backs off its Donroe doctrine BS, including claims on Greenland, they will begin selling off their holdings of US Treasury bonds, 5-10% a month, which would destroy both the US economy and the US dollar as a reserve currency.
Cha
(316,771 posts)Mette Frederiksen, Denmark Premier's. That was very disheartening.
TY
Scalded Nun
(1,607 posts)Polybius
(21,511 posts)Not even combined.
EllieBC
(3,620 posts)Who can realistically stand up to and prevent the US from invading wherever they want to? Realistically. Not pie in the sky fantasy. The US has been building its defenses for decades and decades, while other countries proudly spent on things that they should have been like healthcare and education because we didnt expect the US to go bat shit crazy. But that time has passed and clearly the US has gone bat shit crazy. So who can realistically stop this? Because I dont see a way short of Russia, China, all of Europe joining together. I just dont see it.
Shipwack
(2,999 posts)EllieBC
(3,620 posts)I think we all want to believe that if Trump keeps doing this, he can be defeated, but I just dont see it happening. And I think thats just a terrifying truth at this point.
We need to recognize what we are asking other countries to do when we ask why no one is standing up to Trump. Its dangerous.
Shipwack
(2,999 posts)The Ukraine invasion was expected to last a few days, even by experts on our side.
Afghanistan was never pacified.
During the Malvinas (or Faulkland) invasion, the U.K. assembled a large military force, sailed a few thousand miles, expecting the Argentinians to throw down their guns and run. Instead, the lost two major warships and almost lost their carrier from a submarine that tailed them undetected until it surfaced at the end of festivities.
Tactics trumps money. Drone swarms costing thousands of dollars are taking out multi million dollar warships. Lets not get into modern long range anti ship missiles.
Our last few victories have all been done by special forces or missiles. Special forces attacks are successful until they arent. Obamass assassination mission against Bin Ladin was almost cancelled due to a helicopter failure. Carters hostage rescue mission did failed.
The major military powers have prepared to fight the last [/i war. They are usually caught flat footed by the one they are currently fighting.
spudspud
(639 posts)iemanja
(57,387 posts)They swore to protect Greenland in Article 5.
The US military could flatten just about anyone right now.
iemanja
(57,387 posts)EllieBC
(3,620 posts)in the year 2024 to 2025 the US spent over $1 trillion. All EU countries combined spent about 500 billion. Do the math on that. Everyone is fucked if Miller and Dumpy want their way.
but it's also a fact that empires fall due to military overextension. The US has lost its previous three wars. Trump would spend many trillions and bring the country down because of his ego.
EllieBC
(3,620 posts)would encourage him to do so. Because those people will be fine. They wont be harmed by anything that happens. This isnt some fantasy novel or revisionist 1917 revolution crap. The honest truth is they will bury everyone and not give a damn.
Nigrum Cattus
(1,224 posts)we didn't spend a trillion on our own defence
EllieBC
(3,620 posts)US defense spending.
The US outspends everyone. Its sort of like how up here in Canada we try to pretend wed be ok but we know wed be fucked if Dumpy ever really wanted to take over.
ruet
(10,182 posts)fujiyamasan
(1,227 posts)Trump is itching to leave NATO anyways (probably in it at this point just to pass along intel to Putin).
Greenland could be a good pretext.
BumRushDaShow
(165,753 posts)It was tacked onto the FY2024 NDAA - H.R.2670 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024
DIVISION A--DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATIONS
(snip)
Subtitle C--Matters Relating to Ukraine, Russia, and NATO
(snip)
(Sec. 1250A) The President may not suspend, terminate, denounce, or withdraw the United States from the North Atlantic Treaty (NATO membership) except with the advice and consent of the Senate. Prior to notifying the Senate of an intention to withdraw from NATO, the President must consult with both chambers of Congress.
(snip)
Since it is a treaty, that is how they normally work but this gives members further legal options for rogue violations (at least per Sen. Kaine).
fujiyamasan
(1,227 posts)Ill do some more digging. For some reason I thought NATO members could hold a vote to kick out a member state . Im guessing its more complex than that.
BumRushDaShow
(165,753 posts)regarding adding members (e.g., they recently added Finland and Sweden (they had been partners before then with some limited protections).) The "following" was for the status of Ukraine's attempt to join and that invasion is what prompted those Nordic countries to say - "Uh oh".
ETA - the NATO Treaty - https://www.nato.int/en/about-us/official-texts-and-resources/official-texts/1949/04/04/the-north-atlantic-treaty
WestMichRad
(2,930 posts)
are so 20th century. TSF can overturn that with an executive order.
BumRushDaShow
(165,753 posts)but oddly, there are some things he fights to the end to get "Daddy Roberts" to bless and other things that he concedes and lets them be (at least for now).
Kid Berwyn
(22,958 posts)The KGB played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality, Yuri Shvets, a key source for a new book, tells the Guardian
by David Smith
The Guardian, January 29, 2021
Excerpt
This is an example where people were recruited when they were just students and then they rose to important positions; something like that was happening with Trump, Shvets said by phone on Monday from his home in Virginia.
Shvets, a KGB major, had a cover job as a correspondent in Washington for the Russian news agency Tass during the 1980s. He moved to the US permanently in 1993 and gained American citizenship. He works as a corporate security investigator and was a partner of Alexander Litvinenko, who was assassinated in London in 2006.
Unger describes how Trump first appeared on the Russians radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech model. Trump became the target of a spying operation overseen by Czechoslovakias intelligence service in cooperation with the KGB.
Three years later Trump opened his first big property development, the Grand Hyatt New York hotel near Grand Central station. Trump bought 200 television sets for the hotel from Semyon Kislin, a Soviet émigré who co-owned Joy-Lud electronics on Fifth Avenue.
According to Shvets, Joy-Lud was controlled by the KGB and Kislin worked as a so-called spotter agent who identified Trump, a young businessman on the rise, as a potential asset. Kislin denies that he had a relationship with the KGB.
Continues
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book
JohnnyRingo
(20,507 posts)We have enough trouble.
Is the goddammed republican party dead?
Brain dead or just dead inside?
viva la
(4,491 posts)An end to NATO.
Dave Bowman
(6,655 posts)ancianita
(42,880 posts)Lebensraum (German for "living space"
is a geopolitical concept that became central to Nazi ideology, justifying German territorial expansion into Eastern Europe to provide land for the "Aryan race" for settlement, resources, and population growth, leading to conquest, colonization, and the subjugation or elimination of Slavic peoples, forming a core driver of World War II and the Holocaust. Liebensraum was a biological/geographical theory by Friedrich Ratzel, it was twisted by Nazis into a racial imperative for empire-building, requiring war for survival and space for the German "master race".
If you mention the Nazi word as having some new application, or definition (national security pretext), just sayin' it's good to be clear on the old one (race domination by exterminating others).
BumRushDaShow
(165,753 posts)and that is what is happening right now with the threats.
When you have Little Marco declaring (posted on the WH website) - RUBIO: This Is Our Hemisphere and President Trump Will Not Allow Our Security to be Threatened
and 45 resurrecting the "Monroe Doctrine" by re-imagining it to be the "Don-roe Doctrine", then we are pretty much there as a first step towards the same type of "expansionism" triggered by Hitler in 1939. And remember you have the white supremacists who have basically taken over the government.
ancianita
(42,880 posts)Yes, the white supremacists are running things, right alongside white-Jesus christian nationalists like the Russ Vought choir, while their WH front man pitches to non-white voters along the lines of ....the liberal left has never really had your back, so what have you got to lose now by hanging with those who really know how to use power....
that kind of carrot & stick
If news of the heritage oligarch network's christian nationalist henchmen, and their mass deportation criminality, has not awakened non-white voters to their eventual targeting, I don't know what will..these days I'm at a point of thinking out loud ...
Because it looks so far as if most of those who voted for the felon are, for starters, good with taking down one bad guy to "save" a country from corrupt systems that remain there. And the rest don't see this country as having corrupt parallels to Venezuela's. The attack on VZ are meant to keep maga base happy about their guy so they'll see their troubles as a necessary patriotic sacrifice that will bear fruit as christian power later.
What keeps me up at night (lame, I know, but it's all I've got right now, being all out of outrage) is that by November, too many young people will have been inured to this violent drama as normal, and will have forgotten what democracy is, and not experienced it enough to care if it continues, and more nationwide protests by millions might not bestir them about why we GOTV.
BumRushDaShow
(165,753 posts)is that the Heritage Foundation is literally self-destructing - all due to Nick Fuentes. I think there have now been about 5 - 6 board members who have resigned. This thread has references to previous resignations - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143591656
So there is a battle that has been brewing for some time for "who holds the hearts and minds" of the RW, with MAGat vs (fill in the blank) "nationalists", and it's about to really blow up!
The one thing about the younger generations - and I would point to the GenZs,as one of my nieces is one - is that they are truly "global" and literally interact with others world-wide and in real-time. So their perspectives and ways of processing info, is very different from the "traditional". And as they start moving into the workplace, they will experience something that is "off" in a different way than the Millennials, who are now coming into power and starting to push out the GenXs and Boomers. And there is a good-sized bubble of them too (about as many born then as the Boomers). So if restrictions start being made on them (like was about to happen with TikTok), they will probably rebel more than we may have seen thus far.
ancianita
(42,880 posts)Russ Vought's not going anywhere; neither are his friends occupying the WH. Nor do they care what Americans think of them.
There's no contempt of Congress forthcoming for either Bondi, Trump, or anyone else currently breaking the laws that Congress has passed.
And as for the clear minded youth you describe (which I'm more than happy to believe) there could very well be no democratic election for their voices. No recourse. What keeps me up nights is that there will be no recourse ahead for voting Americans. No recourse in general.
I hope you're right about the current political reality. The way I see the year ahead is that we should prepare for the worst. What happens this year, imo, will shed light on how much darkness we'll be coping with until 2028.
BumRushDaShow
(165,753 posts)and although most have lasted this long the 2nd term, the rush for the exits is probably about to happen very soon (note that Dan Bongino has left and is apparently already ruffling feathers
)!
ancianita
(42,880 posts)I'll keep my radar out for another exodus. Thanks for the hopeful outlook.
ChicagoTeamster
(441 posts)The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024 (NDAA), included provision (Section 1250A) prohibiting the President from unilaterally withdrawing the United States from NATO without approval from two-thirds of the Senate or an act of Congress.
The question is can NATO kick the US out if Trump prevents the military from honoring Article 5? Or would they just wait for us to get a new president? I don't think the general public will take a US invasion of either Mexico or Greenland very well. Trump wrongly believed that Canada would just join the US to avoid the effects of the tariffs.
William Seger
(12,209 posts)Dr. T
(511 posts)It didn't end well for him.
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Cha
(316,771 posts)because I will never give up HOPE We Patriots Can Rise Again.. Overcome!
But... World War II Nazis had American Patriots and othere Democratic Countries Fighting Against them.. Who's gonna take Out Traitor Nazi in the WH?
Dr. T
(511 posts)I'll put it this way. If/when the Canadian army invades America, they will be greeted as liberators by many.
If it becomes WW3, most of the free world will be fighting against the U.S. Too many cracks in the dam for the U.S. military to plug.
Cha
(316,771 posts)here we are.
mn9driver
(4,821 posts)Donnie-two-scoops will give carte Blanche to any dictator who pays up. They can do what they want, just like Donnie. Its not going to be a good time to not be a billionaire.
truthisfreedom
(23,516 posts)A great deal of equipment (arms) to Europe over the years and no doubt a large portion of it can be remotely sabotaged by our military, so it cant be used against us.
Evolve Dammit
(21,498 posts)bronxiteforever
(11,091 posts)Putin a favor and destroy the European alliance with the US that he and Cheeto hate.
thought crime
(1,196 posts)A lot of noise and photo-ops, followed by humiliating video of absolutely nothing happening.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,126 posts)A true International coalition is needed at this time with a commitment to the next 3 years. I realize it's easier said than done and a real shame resources have to be wasted to defend against what is supposed to be a friendly ally when the obvious enemy has it's sites on expansion of Russia.
Polybius
(21,511 posts)It's not strategically valuable enough to risk suicide.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,126 posts)It's kind of a bluff. It would require our military to fire upon allies and to be strategically accurate. The price has to be too high and would require our military to break all kinds of laws. Even an abundance of foreign tourists might accomplish the same goal.
Initech
(107,433 posts)usonian
(23,549 posts)
duckworth969
(1,185 posts)At some point, I believe the Fed will overplay its hand. Theyre getting cocky, but theyre inept.
I think much will depend on how long Chump lives and how the power vacuum works itself out.
But regional violence and blood seems impossible to avoid at this point. Bodies are going to have go out on the street. Our own Tiananmen Square, risking jail time, injury or death.
Not trying to be overly dramatic here. But I think were approaching make or break.
No disrespect to anyone who is in or was in the military, but I believe our troops will open fire on us. All it takes is a few shots for the situation to begin escalating.
Remember Kent State? I do.
If the midterms are a complete mess with obvious MAGA corruption, then thats it. Its go time whatever that might mean.
I dont have a death wish or trying to live out a selfish grand fantasy, going out in a blaze of glory and all that Hollywood stuff.
But Ive got grandchildren to consider. If Im not willing to step up for them, then I dont deserve to be their grandfather.
Martin Eden
(15,363 posts)So much success!
Figarosmom
(9,747 posts)Really going to allow this? Have they really fallen this much? We'd be doing exactly what putin is doing in Ukraine. As well as what Hitler did with his expansion.