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highplainsdem

(59,770 posts)
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:19 AM Yesterday

Russia says Ukraine tried to attack Putin's residence but Kyiv says Moscow is lying

Source: Reuters

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Monday that Ukraine had tried to attack President Vladimir Putin's residence in northern Russia and so Moscow's negotiating position would be reviewed, but Ukraine said it was a lie.

Russia said Ukraine attacked the presidential residence in the Novgorod region overnight with 91 long-range drones, which were all destroyed by Russian air defences. No one was injured and there was no damage, Lavrov said.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said the accusation was a lie, adding that Moscow was preparing the ground to strike government buildings in Kyiv. He said the Russian claim was an attempt to undermine peace talks.

Lavrov said that targets had already been selected for retaliatory strikes by Russia's armed forces. "Such reckless actions will not go unanswered," he said, adding that the attack amounted to "state terrorism."

-snip-

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-ukraine-tried-attack-putins-residence-so-moscows-negotiating-stance-2025-12-29/

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Russia says Ukraine tried to attack Putin's residence but Kyiv says Moscow is lying (Original Post) highplainsdem Yesterday OP
It's way past time for Putin to leave the planet. Irish_Dem Yesterday #1
A one way ticket OFF Mother Earth. No return ticket! riversedge Yesterday #5
There are some who say he's already left the planet and that doubles are taking his place. nt in2herbs Yesterday #21
I think this is possible. Or Putin is in deep hiding and sending out doubles. Irish_Dem Yesterday #27
How many times has Putin tried to kill Zelensky? Irish_Dem Yesterday #2
I still think Zelensky shouldn't have eaten the food at tavernier Yesterday #7
Did he actually eat the food or just move it around his plate? Irish_Dem Yesterday #17
Such a classic bully tactic PatSeg Yesterday #20
Yes exactly. When victims fight back, bullies are furious. Irish_Dem Yesterday #25
It is so common, yet so bizarre PatSeg Yesterday #28
Trump is just the front man. The snake oil salesman. Irish_Dem Yesterday #29
Sadly true PatSeg Yesterday #31
Classic attempt at a false flag operation... such bull Scheie...nt mitch96 Yesterday #22
Putin is just like NuttyYahoo. travelingthrulife Yesterday #3
It's difficult to determine who's the bigger liar: Putin or Trump. surfered Yesterday #4
Putin is the better liar because he is smarter. Irish_Dem Yesterday #18
Good idea but taking the dome off the Kremlin will do.... Historic NY Yesterday #6
I'm waiting for putins pet structure to get smoked...The kerch bridge... That would burn his ass...nt mitch96 Yesterday #23
I doubt this is true, gab13by13 Yesterday #8
Putin doesn't need it an excuse. He tried to kill Zelensky the minute he invade Ukraine. Irish_Dem Yesterday #19
Yeah, Putin is lying again, MarineCombatEngineer Yesterday #9
100% correct. AZ8theist Yesterday #16
The ruskies even have a name for it,,, Vranyo...He knows he's lying You know he's lying, and it's accepted. mitch96 Yesterday #24
Note to Russia: don't start a war if you don't like attacks on your home. sinkingfeeling Yesterday #10
Ukrainians doesn't waste armaments on symbolic targets. CanonRay Yesterday #11
The "state terrorism" is Russia's alone and all its leaders. ancianita Yesterday #12
I tend to believe Ukraine. pandr32 Yesterday #13
Boy! What to do? Believe a brave, kind loving leader or the cousin of an elephant turd? chouchou Yesterday #14
So? Bayard Yesterday #15
If the Ukrainians killed Putin Turbineguy Yesterday #26
I fail to see how that would not be appropriate at any point in the last 4 years?? Ukraine gets short-shrived constantly Evolve Dammit Yesterday #30
If Ukraine did that, I would have no problem with it. Putin has tried to decapitate Ukraine many times, so all's fair. Emrys 21 hrs ago #32
More power to Ukraine if they did blue-wave 17 hrs ago #33
No wonder Trump drools so slavishly over Putin. travelingthrulife 9 hrs ago #38
Didn't Putin send assassins into Ukraine to kill Zelenskiy? Kaleva 15 hrs ago #34
No evidence produced yet; Russia is saying it can use this as an excuse to do anything it wants muriel_volestrangler 13 hrs ago #35
They needed an excuse? n/t Emrys 9 hrs ago #36
They need Trump to feel happy about what they do. So they need to look like a victim muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #40
Since the details of any "security guarantee" for Ukraine we've heard of so far Emrys 8 hrs ago #41
I know this is permanent Groundhogs Day, but didn't Putin already use this lie on one of their last travelingthrulife 9 hrs ago #37
I feel like Biden could have ended this shit.. mountain grammy 9 hrs ago #39

in2herbs

(4,170 posts)
21. There are some who say he's already left the planet and that doubles are taking his place. nt
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:20 PM
Yesterday

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
27. I think this is possible. Or Putin is in deep hiding and sending out doubles.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:04 PM
Yesterday

It is well known that Putin uses body doubles.

Putin has been in obvious bad health for years now.
He could be dead or in very poor health.
Someone else is doing the public appearances.

And the generals, the oligarchs, and the Russian people are turning against Putin.
He could be in hiding because monsters like him are cowards.

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
2. How many times has Putin tried to kill Zelensky?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:21 AM
Yesterday

But then gets butt hurt when the tables are turned!!

tavernier

(14,248 posts)
7. I still think Zelensky shouldn't have eaten the food at
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:34 AM
Yesterday

the mar-a-Lago convalescent center yesterday. There are all kinds of poisons out there and Putin in his two hour talk with Rump could have been giving him a recipe for a delayed action deadly potion. Two weeks later Z dies and everyone is blameless.

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
17. Did he actually eat the food or just move it around his plate?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:32 PM
Yesterday

Maybe aides brought him some clean food.

I agree, Zelensky knows Putin wants to kill him.
And Trump would do it as a favor to Putin.

PatSeg

(52,008 posts)
20. Such a classic bully tactic
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:03 PM
Yesterday

Commit violence and pain on others, but act outraged if your victims dare to fight back.

It is often seen in domestic violence. "I can hit you justifiably, but if you fight back that gives me license to scale up my violence." I've witnessed and even experienced it over and over again. It is a timeless maneuver from the Bully Playbook.

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
25. Yes exactly. When victims fight back, bullies are furious.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:30 PM
Yesterday

They claim victim status to justify their ongoing abuse.

PatSeg

(52,008 posts)
28. It is so common, yet so bizarre
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:10 PM
Yesterday

It is a cycle that is almost impossible to break, though I've seen some who just slow down with age.

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
29. Trump is just the front man. The snake oil salesman.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:11 PM
Yesterday

His minders are the real power.

travelingthrulife

(4,392 posts)
3. Putin is just like NuttyYahoo.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:25 AM
Yesterday

Do not accept this deal. You cannot depend on the us Congress to do it's job.

Historic NY

(39,595 posts)
6. Good idea but taking the dome off the Kremlin will do....
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:33 AM
Yesterday

now that you have longer range drones

mitch96

(15,622 posts)
23. I'm waiting for putins pet structure to get smoked...The kerch bridge... That would burn his ass...nt
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:33 PM
Yesterday

Irish_Dem

(79,504 posts)
19. Putin doesn't need it an excuse. He tried to kill Zelensky the minute he invade Ukraine.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:33 PM
Yesterday

And keeps trying.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,588 posts)
9. Yeah, Putin is lying again,
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:40 AM
Yesterday

and even if Ukraine had tried to take out Putin, so what?
How many times has Putin tried to take out Pres. Zelensky?
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

mitch96

(15,622 posts)
24. The ruskies even have a name for it,,, Vranyo...He knows he's lying You know he's lying, and it's accepted.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:42 PM
Yesterday

It's in their culture...
From the google machine:

Vranyo (враньё is a Russian concept for a specific type of lie where both the speaker and listener know it's untrue, but maintain the fiction for social, political, or cultural reasons, often to save face, or navigate absurd realities, unlike a true "lie" (lozh) meant to deceive. It involves a mutual, unspoken agreement to pretend, seen in everything from polite half-truths to state propaganda, where challenging the obvious untruth is impolite or dangerous.

ancianita

(42,782 posts)
12. The "state terrorism" is Russia's alone and all its leaders.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:56 AM
Yesterday

Every attack is a confession, especially by the top international criminal Vladimir Putin.

chouchou

(2,762 posts)
14. Boy! What to do? Believe a brave, kind loving leader or the cousin of an elephant turd?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:42 PM
Yesterday

Alex: I'll take door #2 for "Probably Trump and Putin hatched this bullshit"

Bayard

(28,446 posts)
15. So?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:03 PM
Yesterday

If they did, I hope they keep trying. Its not like Putin hasn't bombed the hell out of Kyiv. But Moscow is off limits. Ukraine has always had to fight with one hand tied behind their back.

Evolve Dammit

(21,450 posts)
30. I fail to see how that would not be appropriate at any point in the last 4 years?? Ukraine gets short-shrived constantly
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:12 PM
Yesterday

Emrys

(8,923 posts)
32. If Ukraine did that, I would have no problem with it. Putin has tried to decapitate Ukraine many times, so all's fair.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 08:57 PM
21 hrs ago

An attack on the scale Lavrov claims seems vanishingly unlikely, and his constant disregard for the truth makes it even more implausible. His use of the term "state terrorism" is obvious blatant projection. Cry me a river.

It's obvious that Putin wouldn't be in his wannabe Bond villain lair because he's a chicken and no doubt spends every night in a private Moscow bunker, so it would be a waste of Ukrainian drones that could be much more effective elsewhere.

blue-wave

(4,821 posts)
33. More power to Ukraine if they did
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:45 AM
17 hrs ago

But IMHO, Ukraine should target Putin's multi-billion dollar palace in the Sochi area. Now that would be something! Every penny to build the place was stolen from the Russian people.

Here's Alexi Navalny's documentary on the place:

Putin's palace. The story of the world's biggest bribe

Kaleva

(40,140 posts)
34. Didn't Putin send assassins into Ukraine to kill Zelenskiy?
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:56 AM
15 hrs ago

At the beginning of the war?

muriel_volestrangler

(105,504 posts)
35. No evidence produced yet; Russia is saying it can use this as an excuse to do anything it wants
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 04:29 AM
13 hrs ago

The BBC's Russian Editor, Steve Rosenberg, said no drone debris or damage done has been shown. He said "the tone of statements is off the scale, in terms of anti-Ukrainian anti-Zelenskyy bile, in terms of calls for retribution. So we hear Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov saying Moscow had already selected targets in Ukraine for retaliatory strikes, and accused Kyiv of state terrorism, and this morning, there was a piece full of sabre-rattling in the ultra pro-Kremlin Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper, which suggests Russia may use this moment to exert even more pressure on Ukraine. It's headlined 'Russia Now Has a Free Hand', and the article that this is a turning point, it asserts that 'the attack on the residence completely unties our hands. The Russian President once said "we haven't even got going yet"; well, now, it's time... Now the terms for a long term peace will be totally dependent on Russian soldiers. Where they step - that is our land'." Rosenberg said this is a battle for Trump's mind.

From 2:13:30 here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002nv4x

muriel_volestrangler

(105,504 posts)
40. They need Trump to feel happy about what they do. So they need to look like a victim
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:34 AM
8 hrs ago

in his gullible eyes. Modi of India too - I looked for stories on this, and Indian sources had him saying "oh, this is very bad", and seeming to take the Russians' word that it did happen.

Emrys

(8,923 posts)
41. Since the details of any "security guarantee" for Ukraine we've heard of so far
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:20 AM
8 hrs ago

include a clause that says all bets are off if Ukraine attacks Russia, this looks like (a) an obvious attempt to set back the talks between Trump and Zelensky, and (b) a trial balloon to see how easy it might be to derail any "peace" settlement in future. If Trump's anywhere near power, things don't look good. The Ukrainians definitely understand this.

Whether Trump believes US intelligence, once/if they've bothered to brief him, rather than the Russians in this instance is almost moot. No evidence at all has been presented of any such strikes or interceptions, and it sounds like no non-Russian intelligence agencies are buying in to it.

In any case, what rules apply here, and who sets them?

Putin bombs civilians umpteen times a day and has had packs of his thugs attempting to assassinate Zelensky and harm his family at least since the 2022 hostilities started, not to mention picking off members of his government. If a mere attempted attack on a property of Putin's - and there's been no indication he was anywhere near, nor that the Ukrainians mistakenly (and stupidly) thought he'd be there - is enough to cause such pearl-clutching, well ...

travelingthrulife

(4,392 posts)
37. I know this is permanent Groundhogs Day, but didn't Putin already use this lie on one of their last
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 08:47 AM
9 hrs ago

phony peace talks.

mountain grammy

(28,653 posts)
39. I feel like Biden could have ended this shit..
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 08:51 AM
9 hrs ago

oh well, he had a lot on his plate. I still love the man, but I think he was too cautious here and in Gaza..because American foreign policy should always be cautious, but not when a malignant wanna be lying dictator is waiting in the wings.

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