Judge asks if troops in Los Angeles are violating the Posse Comitatus Act

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: AP

Updated 7:07 PM EDT, June 20, 2025


SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — California’s challenge of the Trump administration’s military deployment in Los Angeles returned to a federal courtroom in San Francisco on Friday for a brief hearing after an appeals court handed President Donald Trump a key procedural win.

U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer put off issuing any additional rulings and instead asked for briefings from both sides by noon Monday on whether the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits troops from conducting civilian law enforcement on U.S. soil, is being violated in Los Angeles.

The hearing happened the day after the 9th Circuit appellate panel allowed the president to keep control of National Guard troops he deployed in response to protests over immigration raids. California Gov. Gavin Newsom said in his complaint that “violation of the Posse Comitatus Act is imminent, if not already underway” but Breyer last week postponed considering that allegation.

Vice President JD Vance, a Marine veteran, traveled to Los Angeles on Friday and met with troops, including U.S. Marines who have been deployed to protect federal buildings. According to Vance, the court determined Trump’s determination to send in federal troops “was legitimate” and he will do it again if necessary.

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[FBaggins]

1. That's a tougher battle than the one they've already lost

Even ignoring the fact that PC doesn't really apply to the Marines - there are explicit exceptions for defending federal property.

[TomSlick]

3. I beg to differ.

By its terms, the Posse Comitatus Act applies to the Marine Corps.

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, or the Space Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

18 U.S.C. 1385

[SunSeeker]

4. Where did you get that belief, FBaggins? nt

[patphil]

2. I can answer that for him. Yes, of course it violates the Posse Comitatus act.

This whole thing is a test case for permanent military occupation of the United States.
In fact, the Republicans want this nation to be under permanent martial law. Freedom will be a thing of the past, and adherence to the rule of "might makes right" will replace the Constitution.
This is why Trump says we won't have to vote again....we won't be allowed to vote under a dictatorship.
Or, if we can vote, it will be in a meaningless, shame election.
Vance is seeing himself as the heir apparent to Trump; the real, long term dictator of the former Constitutional Democratic Republic of the United States of America.
That's why Peter Theil saw to it that he was the VP candidate. He's their man, and they will control him.