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GJGCA

(65 posts)
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:42 PM Jun 13

Iran is reeling from Israel's unprecedented attack - and it is only the start

Source: BBC

Israel's "Operation Rising Lion", as it calls its attack on Iran, is unprecedented. It is vastly more extensive and ambitious than anything that has come before, including the two missile and drone exchanges it had with Iran last year. For Iran, this is the biggest assault on its territory since the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-1988
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Iran is reeling and this may be only the first wave. There will be many more potential targets on Israel's hitlist, although some may be beyond its reach, buried deep underground in reinforced bases beneath solid rock.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg72ny4xeyo

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Iran is reeling from Israel's unprecedented attack - and it is only the start (Original Post) GJGCA Jun 13 OP
This is exactly what happened to the Ukraine. Trump's fingerprints are all over it. live love laugh Jun 13 #1
Pay attention. It's not The Ukraine NoRethugFriends Jun 14 #30
And the fascist right couldn't be more pleased - in Israel and the US. J_William_Ryan Jun 13 #2
What a stupid name Bayard Jun 13 #3
Iran does not have nukes NoRethugFriends Jun 14 #31
I'm betting they can afford to buy one Bayard Jun 14 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Jun 13 #4
It satisfied bibi's Frankenstein RW coalition to stave off a threatened no-confidence vote PSPS Jun 13 #5
Trump is going to pull us into this war..... Butterflylady Jun 13 #6
This will put many Jews around the world in danger Nigrum Cattus Jun 13 #7
Unlike now you mean? FBaggins Jun 14 #26
No, I understand, but it might now spread to Nigrum Cattus Jun 14 #36
Like Israeli embassy staffers in DC? FBaggins Jun 14 #37
This is what should have happened the minute the hostages were taken The Mouth Jun 13 #8
Will you support Iran getting nuked? Eko Jun 13 #12
What an odd question. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #16
Why is that an odd question? Eko Jun 13 #17
Maybe that's what was meant, maybe it wasn't, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #18
Me neither, Eko Jun 13 #19
Hopefully said person will return and clarify, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #20
Prob just a case of someone saying something without really thinking about it. Eko Jun 13 #21
Or just the baseline assumption... FBaggins Jun 14 #27
While that is empirically true. we are in the vice of a demented toddler... ananda Jun 14 #25
And just in time for trump's little parade. C Moon Jun 13 #9
Netanyahoo seems to think Israel is insulated from damaging counterattacks. WestMichRad Jun 13 #10
Part of the reason it took so long for Israel to go after Iran is because they wanted to mitigate those counterattacks. Lancero Jun 14 #34
This one could get real ugly. republianmushroom Jun 13 #11
How so? tavernier Jun 13 #15
Iran could start playing with their nuclear toys. republianmushroom Jun 13 #22
What nuclear toys? DavidDvorkin Jun 14 #23
The nuclear toys they don't have? NoRethugFriends Jun 14 #32
Yup, those. republianmushroom Jun 14 #35
Fuck Iran. nt LexVegas Jun 13 #13
Iran is retaliating big time! womanofthehills Jun 14 #24
Sorta the point of the whole exercise FBaggins Jun 14 #29
What would be the response if someone said "fuck Israel" instead? Orrex Jun 14 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author PatrickforB Jun 13 #14
Waiting For Protests Deep State Witch Jun 15 #38

NoRethugFriends

(3,437 posts)
30. Pay attention. It's not The Ukraine
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:57 AM
Jun 14

And this is in no way comfortable to you Ukraine situation. Ukraine pose no threat, I ran posed big threat.

J_William_Ryan

(2,863 posts)
2. And the fascist right couldn't be more pleased - in Israel and the US.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:49 PM
Jun 13

This was the intent of Trump withdrawing from the JCPOA in 2018, to facilitate an attack on Iran ‘justified’ by Iran’s ‘nuclear threat.’

Bayard

(26,048 posts)
3. What a stupid name
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:50 PM
Jun 13

Netanyahu is like trump, thinking he can do whatever he wants and no one is going to stop him. Like I said earlier in another thread--nobody knows for sure if Iran may already have nukes or not.

NoRethugFriends

(3,437 posts)
31. Iran does not have nukes
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:59 AM
Jun 14

Israeli intelligence is excellent. That's how they pulled this off.

Response to GJGCA (Original post)

PSPS

(14,726 posts)
5. It satisfied bibi's Frankenstein RW coalition to stave off a threatened no-confidence vote
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:54 PM
Jun 13

Anything to stay in power since it's the only thing keeping him out of prison.

Butterflylady

(4,492 posts)
6. Trump is going to pull us into this war.....
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 02:39 PM
Jun 13

He's been looking forward to it since day 1.....he wants to see blood no matter who it is.

Fetterman will be the first to volunteer.

Nigrum Cattus

(743 posts)
7. This will put many Jews around the world in danger
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 02:45 PM
Jun 13

Also, it is to reduce their nuclear program. Problem
is, it will only solidify their resolve to have nukes to
prevent this from happening in the future. This a war
between Jews & Muslims and nobody has the balls to
admit it.

Nigrum Cattus

(743 posts)
36. No, I understand, but it might now spread to
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jun 14

countries/places other than the middle east. Iran
has a lot of ability to cause terror. Point is, this will
only make things worse.

FBaggins

(28,257 posts)
37. Like Israeli embassy staffers in DC?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:37 PM
Jun 14

Or maybe Boulder, Colorado?

Once again, they've been in danger for some time.

The Mouth

(3,367 posts)
8. This is what should have happened the minute the hostages were taken
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 02:57 PM
Jun 13

Never forget. To hell with Iran. Ill support *ANYTHING* Israel or the US does to them.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
16. What an odd question.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:39 PM
Jun 13

Why would Iran get nuked? And from who?
Israel doesn't have to nuke Iran, and neither does the US or any nuke armed country, conventional means alone are more than enough to neutralize Iran.

Eko

(9,480 posts)
17. Why is that an odd question?
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:51 PM
Jun 13

The person I asked it of said exactly "Ill support *ANYTHING* Israel or the US does to them." I fail to see how it is and odd question in any way.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
18. Maybe that's what was meant, maybe it wasn't,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 10:03 PM
Jun 13

but just for the record, I would most definitely not support a nuclear strike on Iran, there's no need for it and Israel knows there's no need for it.

Eko

(9,480 posts)
19. Me neither,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 10:14 PM
Jun 13

Between our B1's, B2's and 52's there is no need to. I just thought that was an extreme stance and asked for clarification.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
20. Hopefully said person will return and clarify,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 10:20 PM
Jun 13

nuking Iran would be a colossal disaster and a horrendous war crime for any nation.

Eko

(9,480 posts)
21. Prob just a case of someone saying something without really thinking about it.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 10:25 PM
Jun 13

Happens to all of us, but I still had to ask.

FBaggins

(28,257 posts)
27. Or just the baseline assumption...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:04 AM
Jun 14

… that there’s no chance of the West using nuclear weapons first in a conflict.

ananda

(32,610 posts)
25. While that is empirically true. we are in the vice of a demented toddler...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 06:20 AM
Jun 14

who thinks of nukes as a fun play toy
that will make him king of the world.

He tried to use them in his first term, stopped
only by the actions of General Milley.

Now we have no sane, competent military leaders

WestMichRad

(2,404 posts)
10. Netanyahoo seems to think Israel is insulated from damaging counterattacks.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 08:02 PM
Jun 13

Perhaps embolden by how successful they’ve been to date in fending off drone and missile attacks.

Their luck won’t last forever. Expect attacks against US interests as well. Iran and its allies will keep striving for ways to inflict retribution.

Lancero

(3,220 posts)
34. Part of the reason it took so long for Israel to go after Iran is because they wanted to mitigate those counterattacks.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:41 AM
Jun 14

Its why Israel held back after Irans ballistic missile and drone barrages in 2024 - They knew they needed to focus their attention on Irans irregular forces, their terrorist proxies.

tavernier

(13,815 posts)
15. How so?
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:13 PM
Jun 13

Just because we have a spoiled five year old with Carte Blanche dying to try out all the bang bang toys he’s been given? Sounds to me like it’ll be a pretty quick ending. No point in even buckling in.

womanofthehills

(10,029 posts)
24. Iran is retaliating big time!
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:43 AM
Jun 14

3 or 4 groups of ballistic missiles attached Israel today with missile defense systems not working at 100%. Interesting - but from what I’ve read on social media today, it’s the rare person supporting Israel. Many Republicans have had it with Trump today - Trump referring to himself as the peace candidate and then being for all the wars.

FBaggins

(28,257 posts)
29. Sorta the point of the whole exercise
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:21 AM
Jun 14

Israel can handle this level of “big time”

A nuclear Iran changes that calculus

Orrex

(65,576 posts)
28. What would be the response if someone said "fuck Israel" instead?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:06 AM
Jun 14

I suspect that I can guess at the response.

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