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LetMyPeopleVote

(165,043 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:50 PM Jun 11

DNC boots David Hogg and another vice chair from their roles

Source: Politico

Democratic National Committee members removed David Hogg his vice chair position — discharging the 25-year-old activist and another vice chair from national party posts amid his threats to take on “ineffective” Democratic incumbents in primaries.

The virtual vote, which concluded on Wednesday and the results were obtained by POLITICO, vacated its two vice chair positions, stemming from a procedural complaint unrelated to Hogg’s primary activities, and put forth a plan to hold a new election. Hogg and Pennsylvania state Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta must now run again for their positions next week.

The election offers a potential reset for a party that’s dealt with a series of Hogg-related controversies in recent weeks.

In April, Hogg announced the group that he co-founded, Leaders We Deserve, planned to drop $20 million on safe-seat Democratic primaries, hoping to oust “asleep-at-the-wheel” Democrats. The move triggered a wave of anger from elected officials and DNC members alike, who vented that Hogg’s role as a party leader conflicted with the decision to take on incumbents.

The internal drama exploded again over the weekend, when POLITICO reported on leaked audio from a DNC meeting in which Chair Ken Martin told Hogg and other DNC leaders that his leadership has suffered due to the clash. The vice chair, Martin said, had “essentially destroyed any chance I have” to show national leadership.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/11/hogg-vote-new-election-dnc-00401673




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DNC boots David Hogg and another vice chair from their roles (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jun 11 OP
Self cilla4progress Jun 11 #1
now he is completely free to do what he wants with his million dollar PAC. will he be grateful or whiny nt msongs Jun 11 #2
He is free to run again if he desires and may very well win MichMan Jun 11 #6
Yeah, his "PAC" that he gets all the money. Mysterian Jun 11 #21
Explain please Rebl2 Jun 11 #26
Hogg pocketed more than $175,000 of the PAC money in salary Mysterian Jun 11 #29
That's not even close to being an unusually large salary for such a position.... Jack Valentino Jun 11 #31
Riiiigghhht Mysterian Jun 11 #38
OH--- well, I was basing my response on the $20 million they are hoping to spend next year... Jack Valentino Jun 12 #79
Hope is not a valid method Mysterian Jun 12 #80
Seems out Rebl2 Jun 11 #32
That seems unusually low to me mcar Jun 12 #65
Before I make a judgement, I would like to see how other PAC's compare. Fla Dem Jun 12 #67
I would like the names of these Democratic committee members.... FarPoint Jun 11 #3
He's a very powerful advocate for common-sense firearm legislation. cab67 Jun 11 #5
They aren't "throwing him out the door" MichMan Jun 11 #7
No one is "throwing David out the door" Docreed2003 Jun 12 #78
Here is a good explanation for this action LetMyPeopleVote Jun 11 #4
I call it an excuse. HoosierDebbie Jun 11 #9
there are a lot of Robert's Rules bullies roaming in these sorts of committees cadoman Jun 11 #36
Who voted for this? ChrisW001 Jun 12 #56
Thanks. ificandream Jun 11 #13
easy solution jaymac Jun 12 #54
I wonder if they would be redoing the election if two different men had won. mahina Jun 11 #8
golly gee et tu Jun 11 #10
Exactly DiverDave Jun 11 #25
Or opt not to vote. H2O Man Jun 11 #37
If only Democrats could be so efficient in dispatching Republicans, the same way. Buddyzbuddy Jun 11 #11
I don't see how a procedural removal warrants a story that reads like he was being punished. ificandream Jun 11 #12
I mean, I like him fine LuvLoogie Jun 11 #14
Translation - David Hogg got canned because he had the audacity to say, "ineffective" Democratic incumbents" flashman13 Jun 11 #15
I mean how DARE gay texan Jun 11 #24
It is absolutely a street fight. You don't win street fights with strongly worded letters. flashman13 Jun 12 #69
Hogg spreads lies creeksneakers2 Jun 11 #42
If the DNC Democrats are doing all they can (HARDLY?), we are doomed as a nation! flashman13 Jun 12 #70
What more could they do? creeksneakers2 Jun 12 #72
Are you saying I'm dissing? creeksneakers2 Saturday #85
Democrats need something HoosierDebbie Jun 11 #16
They are doing all the can creeksneakers2 Jun 11 #43
I don't understand this line angrychair Jun 11 #17
Well stated angrychair. MuirHero Jun 11 #33
Welcome to DU! red dog 1 Jun 11 #41
Why are Dems continually locked in a death spiral? Mawspam2 Jun 11 #18
Great. But no need to go after the people who are there now. creeksneakers2 Jun 11 #45
Who should we "go after?" Happy Hoosier Jun 12 #64
Why not go after Republicans? creeksneakers2 Jun 12 #73
and when people vote with the gop DonCoquixote Jun 12 #74
It could be slightly less bad creeksneakers2 Jun 13 #82
it is very bad DonCoquixote Saturday #90
Who exactly is stifling threats? creeksneakers2 Sunday #91
I have already been x'd for calling them out DonCoquixote Sunday #92
Well, then go after those guys creeksneakers2 Sunday #93
That's BS we need these young bomb throwers to inspire the base. kimbutgar Jun 11 #19
He does the exact opposite creeksneakers2 Saturday #87
Accusing Democrats of both sides, corruption, ignore working class, conspiracy theories of rigged elections betsuni Saturday #88
This is a mistake Sucha NastyWoman Jun 11 #20
headline gay texan Jun 11 #22
Shout out for mentioning BartCop Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 11 #27
He DID predict this.... n/t gay texan Jun 11 #40
I saw a story about a poll NJCher Jun 12 #50
Foot meets DNC BidenRocks Jun 11 #23
They aren't LT Barclay Jun 11 #44
See? He's succeeding in dividing us. creeksneakers2 Jun 11 #46
when the dnc backstabs DonCoquixote Jun 12 #75
The DNC didn't back stab Bernie. creeksneakers2 Jun 13 #81
present proof please DonCoquixote Jun 13 #83
I'm trying to remember the name of the website the Bernie people creeksneakers2 Saturday #84
2025 will lie about anything DonCoquixote Saturday #89
I'm done contributing to the DNC MuirHero Jun 11 #48
Par for the DNC course ILikePie92 Jun 11 #28
"stemming from a procedural complaint unrelated to Hogg's primary activities"--- Jack Valentino Jun 11 #30
This young man should run for Congress himself somewhere--- Jack Valentino Jun 11 #34
With his lethally unpopular positions creeksneakers2 Saturday #86
Hogg rooted out. Sneederbunk Jun 11 #35
Kenyatta is going to take Hogg's place. Here's The Guardian's report. ancianita Jun 11 #39
Good.. I'm glad Malcolm Kenyatta is taking Cha Jun 12 #52
Great. Kenyatta really called out Hogg's BS, which is likely Nixie Jun 12 #60
Profoundly stupid move Picaro Jun 11 #47
When re-doing a vote for a position in an organization that funds general election candidates and organizes betsuni Jun 12 #49
Kennie should get over his butthurt and resign. Jirel Jun 12 #51
Some people bitterly cling to their guns and religion, others to their tenured positions and safe seats BeyondGeography Jun 12 #53
Good! It's time to SUPPORT Democrats and REMOVE Republicans. Oopsie Daisy Jun 12 #55
Ideological belief that the old guard of the Democratic Establishment is the true roadblock to progress. betsuni Jun 12 #57
Exactly. They never consider that the war on old people, the war Nixie Jun 12 #66
does that mean DonCoquixote Jun 12 #76
this is why Snoopy 7 Jun 12 #58
Thanks. It's just ancianita Jun 12 #59
DNC is the PROBLEM, not the answer in its current form IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 12 #61
Too conservative how? betsuni Jun 12 #71
WE are determined to commit political suicide. Happy Hoosier Jun 12 #62
Let's keep everything the same so we can keep on winning. Passages Jun 12 #63
Stupid move travelingthrulife Jun 12 #68
These histrionic headlines aren't doing anyone any favors Docreed2003 Jun 12 #77

msongs

(71,508 posts)
2. now he is completely free to do what he wants with his million dollar PAC. will he be grateful or whiny nt
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:51 PM
Jun 11

Jack Valentino

(2,405 posts)
31. That's not even close to being an unusually large salary for such a position....
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:58 PM
Jun 11

Is the leader of a PAC supposed to work without any salary ?

Mysterian

(5,712 posts)
38. Riiiigghhht
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:50 PM
Jun 11

With only 28% of the money going to candidates.

He sure earned that hefty salary.

Jack Valentino

(2,405 posts)
79. OH--- well, I was basing my response on the $20 million they are hoping to spend next year...
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:53 PM
Jun 12

It would be a very small fraction of that.

Rebl2

(16,546 posts)
32. Seems out
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:59 PM
Jun 11

Of over $11 million the PAC took in, only around 28% of the PAC money went to democratic candidates. Is that an unusual low amount going to candidates or is that a normal amount.

Fla Dem

(26,820 posts)
67. Before I make a judgement, I would like to see how other PAC's compare.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:38 AM
Jun 12

Actually to me it does not seem unreasonable. You have to pay salaries, taxes, rent, travel expenses, etc, all those expenses that support a very active campaign organization. The salary also does not seem terribly unreasonable.
So as I said while I have no idea what it takes to run a highly visible and active PAC, it would be good to see the expenses for other PAC's before I would make a judgement on the expenses and Hogg's salary.

FarPoint

(14,034 posts)
3. I would like the names of these Democratic committee members....
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:53 PM
Jun 11

who are throwing David out the door?

I wish to file my complaint.

cab67

(3,401 posts)
5. He's a very powerful advocate for common-sense firearm legislation.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jun 11

I get the sense he was out of his depth in this particular position.

MichMan

(15,259 posts)
7. They aren't "throwing him out the door"
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:13 PM
Jun 11

Just agreeing that the election that he won was fraudulent and requiring a new election. He may very well win again.

Docreed2003

(18,311 posts)
78. No one is "throwing David out the door"
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jun 12

The DNC is complying with its own rules, they are holding a new election for vice chair, and Hogg is declining to run for that position.

cadoman

(1,349 posts)
36. there are a lot of Robert's Rules bullies roaming in these sorts of committees
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:16 PM
Jun 11

They usually know the rules better than they know their bibles and if you don't want to incur their wrath you must do everything perfectly.

I thought Hogg defended his approach well (citing historical precedent) and it's clear that it was a "rules for thee but not for me" sort of mindset among some in the committee. Maybe he'll get elected again but I think it's for the best if he focuses on his PAC.

ChrisW001

(1 post)
56. Who voted for this?
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:08 AM
Jun 12

Why did the DNC wait for so long before deciding they had broken their own rules for elections? That should be the sort of thing you notice right away. Or maybe they do it all the time so that if someone starts causing problems, they can say 'ooops, we ignored our own rules months ago, need to redo your election!'

Aren't the DNC voters the sitting members of congress, living POTUS and Veeps? They should know how voting rules work.

jaymac

(23 posts)
54. easy solution
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:46 AM
Jun 12

Just bloody appoint another vice chair position. Kenyatta and Hogg are two young up and comers who should be encouraged, not vilified. isn't this what we complain about dems projects.....too many hoops and layers to be effective? too many requirements and studies need to get done before a project even starts? that is why young folks did not see the progress Biden's agenda was o accomplish but got slowed down to snail's pace?
appoint Ms. Free the a new vice chair.........let's get things rolling folks....

mahina

(19,825 posts)
8. I wonder if they would be redoing the election if two different men had won.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:14 PM
Jun 11

Please excuse me while I had to go dig in the sofa to find some money to give to David and Malcolm

DiverDave

(5,120 posts)
25. Exactly
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:32 PM
Jun 11

My 2 20 something and friends are not happy with th DNC.
fucks the matter with the old geezer?

H2O Man

(76,981 posts)
37. Or opt not to vote.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:20 PM
Jun 11

Or to register as independents, who outnumber Democrats today. The party needs to connect much better with the public. I'm not sure that the DNC puts as much effort into that, than trying to get republican support.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,044 posts)
11. If only Democrats could be so efficient in dispatching Republicans, the same way.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jun 11

Like Biden, Franken and now Hogg.

ificandream

(11,193 posts)
12. I don't see how a procedural removal warrants a story that reads like he was being punished.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:33 PM
Jun 11

Seems like the writer was looking for an angle he didn't have.

flashman13

(1,304 posts)
15. Translation - David Hogg got canned because he had the audacity to say, "ineffective" Democratic incumbents"
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:56 PM
Jun 11

don't own their seats. If they can't defend their positions and actions they need to face primary challenges. Let the voters decide who represents their wants and desires. That is how democracy works.

gay texan

(3,013 posts)
24. I mean how DARE
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:31 PM
Jun 11

anyone call out the actions of a "Strongly worded letter"

This is a fucking street fight, all rules are off. Fucking cowards step aside

"Well this isn't the proper optics of political debate and this could ultimately harm the party on a whole" says the cherry picked (by committee) DNC spokesperson

STAND THE LITERAL FUCK UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN YOU FUCKING COWARDS

flashman13

(1,304 posts)
69. It is absolutely a street fight. You don't win street fights with strongly worded letters.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:17 PM
Jun 12

creeksneakers2

(7,691 posts)
42. Hogg spreads lies
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jun 11

Democrats are pretty much doing all they can. Hogg falsely claims they are sitting on their hands. He's going to hurt turn out and help the Fascists. I hate Hogg.

flashman13

(1,304 posts)
70. If the DNC Democrats are doing all they can (HARDLY?), we are doomed as a nation!
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:20 PM
Jun 12

BTW What happened to don't dis fellow Democrats?

creeksneakers2

(7,691 posts)
72. What more could they do?
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:53 PM
Jun 12

Most of the votes against Trump are unanimous. They communicate what a problem Trump is. There are hundreds of court cases against him. Town halls have been held. The Supreme Court and Fascists fixed it so Trump can get away with murder. His followers mentally block out the truth. The best hope is taking back on or both houses of Congress in 2026. Hogg is working AGAINST that.



https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-two-dnc-leader-david-hogg-slams-pelosis-too-well-timed-stock-trades

creeksneakers2

(7,691 posts)
85. Are you saying I'm dissing?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:49 AM
Saturday

Hogg and his supporters are the ones dissing.

What do you think Democrats should do that they aren't doing? Hogg's website and all the rest never say that.

I agree with you that things don't look good for America.

HoosierDebbie

(429 posts)
16. Democrats need something
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:03 PM
Jun 11

Democrats need something other than the same-old, same-old. If new voices and new tactics don't rise to the occasion, it is all over. Politicians who aren't making waves and fighting the traditional avenues will not help any of us. Of 212 Democrats in the House of Representatives and how many have made their mark? How many do we recognize for their advocacy? I pay quite a bit of attention to House business and I don't think I could name more than 25 who fight for their constituents. This is why I think the younger generations should take over for a lot of do-nothing, seemingly-tenured incumbents.

In the house, 56 democrats are over 70 years old. 30 republicans. In the current congress, only 16% of House and Senate members are younger than 45. (New York Times from June 4 of this year "The Age Issue".


creeksneakers2

(7,691 posts)
43. They are doing all the can
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:35 PM
Jun 11

What do you expect them to do? Thanks to Hogg and others the lies that they aren't fighting are spreading and will hurt turnout. These falsehoods help Republicans. I bet half the money Hogg got came from Republicans.

angrychair

(10,731 posts)
17. I don't understand this line
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:16 PM
Jun 11
who vented that Hogg’s role as a party leader conflicted with the decision to take on incumbents.


This sentence encapsulates why some people balk about the DNC at times, including our young Mr. Hogg.

Now I perfectly understand that the mission of the DNC is Democratic majorities but that is a very different mission than rubber-stamping incumbents which that line would clearly imply to the average listener. We can't say we need a different approach then punish people for taking a new approach. My only rub with what he did is that as a DNC vice-chair he should not be publicly directing or orchestrating a non-DNC PAC to do anything.
What we should be doing is fielding the best candidates for the job.
Sitting back and running on autopilot while recycling the old guard is not going to cut it anymore.
I can hear the pushback already. I'm not saying all old members of Congress or incumbents are bad. I am saying that being an incumbent should never be an automatic golden ticket to DNC endorsement/support.

Mawspam2

(973 posts)
18. Why are Dems continually locked in a death spiral?
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:27 PM
Jun 11

We need new blood who can speak beyond Facebook or old media like Newsweek.

Happy Hoosier

(8,966 posts)
64. Who should we "go after?"
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 08:26 AM
Jun 12

Just wondering. If the peopl in the DNC now aren;t responsible for it, who is?

In any case, no friggin' money for the DNC until they get their shit together. I'll fund individual candidates.

DonCoquixote

(13,894 posts)
74. and when people vote with the gop
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:17 PM
Jun 12

it is also theirs..

We at the least need to act like Mitch when he tried his best to make oabma a one term president. Instead..some dems who know better vote with the gop

DonCoquixote

(13,894 posts)
90. it is very bad
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 06:28 PM
Saturday

when then GOP know they are safe because their "fiends opn the other side of the aisle" stifle any threat top them before it hatches..It might have been cute to play diplomat, in the 90's, not in this era when the gop outright speaks out loud and arrests senators.

DonCoquixote

(13,894 posts)
92. I have already been x'd for calling them out
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 08:00 AM
Sunday

But it would have been NICE of a certain bunch of senators did oppose certain deals, and did nto just give the gop the votes they wanted.

creeksneakers2

(7,691 posts)
87. He does the exact opposite
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:02 AM
Saturday

We had lower turnout among younger voters in 2024. Pollsters found they stayed home because they believe Democrats weren't doing enough to stop Trump. Hogg was recruited for a spot at the DNC because he told them he could win back those voters. But all Hogg has done is spread the message that Democrats aren't doing anything so stop Trump, the same thing that kept them from voting last time. He's doing the exact opposite of what he promised.

The longer Hogg is around the fewer votes we'll get.

betsuni

(28,010 posts)
88. Accusing Democrats of both sides, corruption, ignore working class, conspiracy theories of rigged elections
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:30 PM
Saturday

and stopping progress and progressives, not stopping Trump/everything bad and on and on. Then claim gee whiz innocence for the result. Same thing as Republicans do, turn Democrats into such fictional monsters nobody would even consider voting for them. At the most you might get a lesser of two evils.

If anyone objects to this demonization, the insulting name-calling begins, they pretend you hate progressive policy. People like Hogg and (can't say the names) have the wonderful opportunity to inspire young people and get progressive things done and instead they inspire cynicism and hate of the populist Us vs Them. Such a waste.

gay texan

(3,013 posts)
22. headline
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:18 PM
Jun 11

"I have no idea why we can't connect with younger people, the polls say they hate us!!!" says completely f-ing clueless DNC head...

JFC this is NOT what we fucking need at this moment.

BARTCOP had it right. We are the masters of backstabbing. AOC needs to be organizing this fucking shitshow....at least she knows how to fucking street fight

NJCher

(40,442 posts)
50. I saw a story about a poll
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:02 AM
Jun 12


snip
What To Know
A Quinnipiac University Poll of 1,265 registered voters nationwide, conducted between June 5 and June 9, found that disapproval of Democrats in Congress has increased since a February poll.

Seventy percent of participants said they disapprove of how Democrats are handling their jobs in Congress, while 21 percent approve. Among Democrats, 53 percent disapprove, and 41 percent approve. Just 9 percent of Republicans approve of Democrats' performance, while 84 percent disapprove.

A similar Quinnipiac University poll of 1,039 registered voters in February found that 68 percent of participants disapproved of congressional Democrats and 52 percent disapproved of congressional Republicans.

snip

https://www.newsweek.com/disapproval-rating-democrats-congress-poll-2084270

BidenRocks

(1,682 posts)
23. Foot meets DNC
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jun 11

They shoot it and stick it in body orifices.
Are they on our side? I don't think they speak for me.
Out with the old and ineffective.
Pass the torch and fuck your divisive rules!
I support new ideas.
Dumping David Hogg was really ignorant!
Don't ask me for money either DNC!

LT Barclay

(2,985 posts)
44. They aren't
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jun 11

I have this from someone who was close to the political organizer who helped secure the African-American vote in Arkansas for Bill Clinton in his run for governor and for president back in 1992. Someone here probably knows his name.
He was told that it is all about the donors.

DonCoquixote

(13,894 posts)
75. when the dnc backstabs
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:20 PM
Jun 12

and trashes aoc, Bernie, and any progressives, they are doing a fine job of dividing us.

creeksneakers2

(7,691 posts)
81. The DNC didn't back stab Bernie.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 02:23 AM
Jun 13

For a short time he didn't get a fair shake on the debate schedule but that got fixed. When the E-mails got hacked the media reported that they found the DNC has screwed Bernie but all there was was a few of them saying negative things about him amongst themselves. That was understandable because Bernie kept making false accusations about the DNC. I went through every E-mail. Nothing. They didn't hurt Bernie. Bernie lost because he's too extreme.

I never heard of them doing anything to AOC.

Its the "progressives" that always screw the party, not the other way around. Many of them wouldn't vote for Hillary and some even hated her so much they voted for Trump. They cost us Al Gore and I've never seen a single one say that was a mistake. I've seen David Hogg is spreading those same lies and they'll peel off all they can in 2026 and try to keep us from getting a good shot at Trump.

That is why the right loves David Hogg. The Daily Signal is a publication of the Heritage Foundation, the same bozos who brought us project 2025. Look at how much the kiss Hogg's ass and play his game: i bet half that money Hogg has collected came from Republicans.

https://mail.dailysignal.com/p/david-hogg-s-sacrifice-at-the-altar-of-dei-shows-why-democrats-are-losing-young-men-5ae69cff3a2e2122

DonCoquixote

(13,894 posts)
83. present proof please
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jun 13
Many of them wouldn't vote for Hillary and some even hated her so much they voted for Trump.
i bet half that money Hogg has collected came from Republicans.

creeksneakers2

(7,691 posts)
84. I'm trying to remember the name of the website the Bernie people
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:44 AM
Saturday

went to after they were told they couldn't promote Bernie here after he lost the primary. Many there said they were voting for Trump. Some around here would remember if they read this.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-voters-helped-trump-win-white-house-could-they-do-n1145306

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/29/bernie-sanders-supporters-vote-trump-over-biden-poll/2936124001/

I can't prove where Hogg's money comes from. That's why I said "I bet." Republicans circulated Nader's nominating petition in PA. Here is a kiss ass piece from an outfit called the Daily Signal. Its run by the Heritage Foundation. You know, the folks who brough us Project 2025. They just love David Hogg.

https://mail.dailysignal.com/p/david-hogg-s-sacrifice-at-the-altar-of-dei-shows-why-democrats-are-losing-young-men-5ae69cff3a2e2122

DonCoquixote

(13,894 posts)
89. 2025 will lie about anything
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 06:26 PM
Saturday

But when the James Carvilles of the world tell us to stay in place, and when other conservative democrats keep telling us to shut up, we know that we are not going to get anything. YOu knwo who I mena, but this site will not let me call out certain democrats who have been all to eager to compromise.

MuirHero

(37 posts)
48. I'm done contributing to the DNC
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:53 PM
Jun 11

I will continue to contribute directly to the campaigns of progressive candidates.

Jack Valentino

(2,405 posts)
34. This young man should run for Congress himself somewhere---
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:04 PM
Jun 11

perhaps even taking on one of those "ineffective" Democratic incumbents.


creeksneakers2

(7,691 posts)
86. With his lethally unpopular positions
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:53 AM
Saturday

like defunding the police he won't get elected anywhere. He'll succeed at convincing Democrats not to vote for whoever he challenges though, maybe costing us a seat.

ancianita

(40,720 posts)
39. Kenyatta is going to take Hogg's place. Here's The Guardian's report.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:56 PM
Jun 11
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/11/david-hogg-dnc-democrats

Hogg’s withdrawal means that Pennsylvania state lawmaker Malcolm Kenyatta is the only candidate eligible for the male vice-chair role. A second vote will be held later this week for the second vice-chair position, which can be a candidate of any gender.

Kenyatta, who has been sharply critical of Hogg and the attention focused on him, said in a statement that he was “grateful” to his supporters and eager to move forward.

“Democrats must be bold and meet this moment,” he said. “This is the urgent work in front of us: to stand up to authoritarianism, to protect care and dignity, and to make life better for the people who count on us.”

Cha

(312,165 posts)
52. Good.. I'm glad Malcolm Kenyatta is taking
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 02:01 AM
Jun 12

Hogg's place... And I hope Kalyn Free wins the other Chair. She's the one who sued the DNC to get another election.. and happy she did.

Kalyn Cherie Free is an American attorney and former elected district attorney1. She is a tribal citizen of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma and is the first woman and Native American to be elected district attorney in Oklahoma1. During her administration, she focused on fighting for women, children, and crime victim's rights

Found on Bing under Who is Kalyn Free..

Kalyn Cherie Free (born November 1963) is an American attorney,[1] former elected district attorney, and a tribal citizen of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. Free represents Oklahoma as the National Committeeperson on the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalyn_Free

Mahalo, ancianita..

Nixie

(17,708 posts)
60. Great. Kenyatta really called out Hogg's BS, which is likely
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 08:19 AM
Jun 12

a reason Hogg didn’t want to face such a challenge to his facade. We’re in very good hands with Kenyatta.

Picaro

(2,050 posts)
47. Profoundly stupid move
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:49 PM
Jun 11

Old guard circles the wagons. The circular firing squad will be vaulting over the horizon to save the day at any moment. Maybe they’ll primary AOC. That’ll fix it.

betsuni

(28,010 posts)
49. When re-doing a vote for a position in an organization that funds general election candidates and organizes
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 12:32 AM
Jun 12

the national convention becomes a wild conspiracy theory resulting in people screaming about, like, totally breaking up with Democrats.

Knock yourselves out, Republicans love it!

Jirel

(2,299 posts)
51. Kennie should get over his butthurt and resign.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:05 AM
Jun 12

The party had a real shot to cull some DINOs. Now it threw that away, and instead of smart new blood at the helm we have a middle aged whiner who failed upwards.

BeyondGeography

(40,484 posts)
53. Some people bitterly cling to their guns and religion, others to their tenured positions and safe seats
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 02:27 AM
Jun 12

I will continue to follow Hogg with interest and to donate to him, his DNC opponents not so much.

Oopsie Daisy

(5,899 posts)
55. Good! It's time to SUPPORT Democrats and REMOVE Republicans.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:53 AM
Jun 12

This BS about primarying Democrats in "safe districts" was nothing more than "Justice Democrats" and "Our Revolution" and others who adhere to and promote their anti-Democrat philosophies, trying to hamstring and sabotage the party. FTS! 🖕🤬💩

betsuni

(28,010 posts)
57. Ideological belief that the old guard of the Democratic Establishment is the true roadblock to progress.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:26 AM
Jun 12

It's projection when they say Democrats don't take Republicans seriously. They think Republican voters will quickly join the revolution of the 99% against the 1% when the mean old Democrats who caused or didn't stop their "economic anxiety" are purged.

Nixie

(17,708 posts)
66. Exactly. They never consider that the war on old people, the war
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:21 AM
Jun 12

on white men and the war on oligarchs got us an old, white oligarch as president. It’s always about something else than what is right in front of us. Looks like the experienced Democrats know things they don’t.

DonCoquixote

(13,894 posts)
76. does that mean
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jun 12

we just give the old white oligarchs whatever they want and be thankful for our gruel?

Snoopy 7

(664 posts)
58. this is why
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:48 AM
Jun 12

This is why the dnc is against David, https://www.commondreams.org/news/dnc-2024, this article tells about the Progressive Movement and how they are trying to push the democratic party to help the working class. All the dnc is doing is trying to get the rich donars, who are not pro working class, to give them the millions of dollars that they currently possess...

ancianita

(40,720 posts)
59. Thanks. It's just
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 08:11 AM
Jun 12

that one can hardly blame the leadership for chasing rich donors. It's Citizens United that's driving that, passed by a MAGA SCOTUS that has wanted their rich benefactor, Koch, to capture the republican votes under any false pretext.

If and when we ever win a presidential trifecta again Citizens United is here to stay, unfortunately.

Docreed2003

(18,311 posts)
77. These histrionic headlines aren't doing anyone any favors
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:00 PM
Jun 12

"DNC boots Hogg...and another vice chair".

First of all, they didn't "boot" anyone. This was a procedural move to allow a new vote to rectify a discrepancy in the previous election where the DNC failed to follow its own rules. Hogg isn't "booted", he would just be required to run again for his post...which he's said he's not going to consider.

Second, David Hogg this David Hogg that...Ask yourself why this dude is the only person being mentioned in the headlines. That "other vice chair" actually has a name and, fun fact, will be running for his seat in the redo election. Malcolm Kenyatta has a name...he actually has been working his ass off for the party since his election, unlike some folks who seem to prefer making an ass out of themselves on podcasts and the interview circuit.

These headlines are meant to sow distrust in the party and are playing to the same type of disunity some tried and successfully used in 2016, and in 2024 frankly. Don't stop at headlines folks. We have to be educated and understand what's actually going on and not fall for misinformation and spin.

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