Trump asks the Supreme Court to neutralize the Convention Against Torture

[LetMyPeopleVote]

Source: VOX

Trump’s lawyers claim they’ve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured.

Federal law states that the United States shall not “expel, extradite, or otherwise effect the involuntary return of any person to a country in which there are substantial grounds for believing the person would be in danger of being subjected to torture.” This law implements a treaty, known as the Convention Against Torture, which the United States ratified more than three decades ago.

Federal regulations, moreover, provide that even after an immigration judge has determined that a noncitizen may be deported to another country, that judge’s order “shall not be executed in circumstances that would violate Article 3 of the United Nations Convention Against Torture.” And those regulations also establish a process that immigrants can use to raise concerns with an immigration judge that they may be tortured if sent to a specific country.

The Trump administration, however, claims it has discovered a loophole that renders all of these legal protections worthless, and is now asking the Supreme Court to explicitly give it the authority to make use of that loophole in order to enact its immigration policies.

According to President Donald Trump’s lawyers, the administration can simply wait until after an immigration judge has conducted the proceeding that ordinarily would determine whether a particular noncitizen may be deported to a particular country, and then, if that noncitizen is allowed to be deported, announce that the immigrant will be deported to some previously unmentioned country — even if that immigrant reasonably fears they will be tortured in that nation.

Department of Homeland Security v. D.V.D., the case where the Trump administration asks the justices to neutralize the Convention Against Torture, is unlike some of the more high-profile deportation cases that reached the Supreme Court — such as the unlawful deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador — in that no one really questions that the immigrants at the heart of this case may be deported somewhere.

Read more: https://www.vox.com/scotus/416163/trump-supreme-court-deport-immigration-convention-torture

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— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser.bsky.social) 2025-06-09T22:49:49.676Z

[hildegaard28]

1. Wow

These people are just plain evil.

[ananda]

5. I know. I'm going, seriously?

Every time I think they can't go lower,
they do.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. I never would have imaged a US president requesting this abomination.

[slightlv]

13. That's how I felt when we started doing all this torture under Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.

I still believe they should be tried for war crimes. Trump isn't even using the illusion of war to justify his sadistic desire. And I don't doubt for a minute these "techniques" will be turned against American Citizens sooner rather than later. And we must insist on a Truth and Reconciliation committee when we finally get him out of the WH. Him, and his nazi friends.

[duhneece]

3. Among the cruelest actions they want nt

[republianmushroom]

4. Darker shades of Bush and AG Alberto Gonzales.

Is this where it started ?

[ananda]

6. And Dick Cheney.

It was bad enough then, but now it's so much worse.

[republianmushroom]

7. Never forget Bush and Cheney hand in this.

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[OMGWTF]

14. Never forget that Cheney The Dick made $39.5B from his BS no-bid contracts in his two BS wars of aggression.

That this mofo and his puppet GeeDumbya escaped a trial in The Hague for war crimes is a travesty.

[trusty elf]

19. ...

[Solly Mack]

8. Color me not the least bit surprised or shocked.

[uppityperson]

9. W T F .

[Kablooie]

10. They are delightfully charming people, aren't they?

Watch the Stepford SCOTUS give him the power to Hitlerize everything in the US.

[Martin68]

11. Of course he did. Trump is trying to create a full-blown totalitarian dictatorship.

[OMGWTF]

12. Sick mofos. All of 'em.

[karin_sj]

15. Utterly disgusting

... but not surprising at all.

[Orrex]

16. Why the fuck doesn't he just die already?

[get the red out]

27. Just to fuck with Vance

Trump will survive by his evil will alone, and to fuck with J. D.

[bdamomma]

29. I am holding

onto this thought "he is making enemies everyday".

[angrychair]

17. Really, I'm done

This is fucking insane. I mean batshit crazy fucking insane.
This asshole is literally asking for the ability to torture people or have them tortured in another country. What the hell is going on. This is not the world I hoped for as a kid. Literally the opposite. I am at a total loss for words.

[róisín_dubh]

18. I mean, we don't adhere to a lot of human rights treaties...

so why stop with this one (just in case)
For fucks sake this is nightmare fuel and will basically negate any of the country conditions reports I do for asylum seekers (many of them invoke the CAT in their asylum claims and rightly so).
Jesus fucking christ on a motorbike.

[William769]

20. Will his shit never end?

[bdamomma]

30. some day

it will come.....tic toc...tic toc....

[William769]

31. ...

[Javaman]

21. going full Pinochet I see nt

[Vinca]

22. Wonder how the good Christians on the Supreme Court will justify this?

Or how much it will cost. Trump's going to have to go back to wringing out the cult for money since Elmo's gone.

[nuxvomica]

23. So the "loophole" is a bait-and-switch scheme

Which is a form of fraud and therefore not a legal alternative.

[perdita9]

24. Watch as "Christians" fail to speak out on this

But the Atheists sure will

[Hekate]

33. The world isn't divided between American Evangelicals and atheists. Jews will speak out...

…as will Buddhists, Pagans, Episcopalians, Universal Universalists, Jim Wallis of Sojourners — and many more if they know about it.

Seriously, let people know.

[Canada Kid]

25. Looking the other way

So this is what your CHRISTIAN WHITE GLOVED BIBLE PUNCHING ULTRA RIGHT WING MUTHA FUCKAS VOTED FOR!!! The Christian vote...."God spoke to Trump and asked him to be president"...remember they said this shit! And now there is SILENCE!!! Self righteous bastards every one!!

[Irish_Dem]

26. Why does Trump even bother? Bush and Cheney were not held to account for their torture of prisoners.

[bucolic_frolic]

28. So no habeas corpus here but willing delivery to other nation states

to do the dirty work. Are we back to waterboarding, or progressing to thumbscrews and the rack?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

32. Trump Asks SCOTUS To Let Him Deport People To Countries That Will Torture Them

Link to tweet

Trump Asks SCOTUS To Let Him Deport People To Countries That Will Torture Them w/ @farronbalanced

Thanks to the Convention Against Torture, of which the United States is a signatory, the US is forbidden by law from deporting a person to a country where they have reason to believe the individual could be persecuted or tortured. However, the administration is now asking the Supreme Court to allow them to use a loophole in the torture agreement to send people to areas of the world where torture could happen, but maybe also won’t happen.