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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe's gonna dump Taiwan, isn't he?
All it would take is a an even-money trade deal and a complement of how smart he is, and it's goodbye Taiwan.
Congress already approved a multi billion dollar arms sale to the province and Trump signed it, but then after a chat with Xi he held the money back.
I fear this will go down as the most significant China visit since Nixon, but in an infamous way. Trump is singlehandedly making school globes an obsolete reference.
bucolic_frolic
(55,757 posts)The sharks are feeding
vapor2
(4,877 posts)Then he caves and sells us out
Irish_Dem
(82,227 posts)Flattery and cash does the trick
3Hotdogs
(15,527 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,227 posts)Kiss Taiwan good bye.
Irish_Dem
(82,227 posts)oasis
(53,936 posts)in the White House.
ImNotGod
(1,204 posts)Torchlight
(7,036 posts)Taipei or Bejiing. That's trump's go-to litmus test... "how much more money can you give me than they can?"
imanamerican63
(16,394 posts)He is an absolute imbecile who has no interest whatsoever in any sort humanity!
dclarston13
(445 posts)For American manufacturing. He knew what he was doing. Oh yeah and I too think he will give up Taiwan.
Dan
(5,282 posts)He would sell America.
Pesky1
(87 posts)To the billionaires.
orangecrush
(31,076 posts)BaronChocula
(4,718 posts)Ray Bruns
(6,706 posts)mr715
(4,106 posts)BurnDoubt
(1,903 posts)He IS the most transactional being since the reach-around came into existence.
And besides
it has been written into our own laws that those Vermin are not people and undeserving of consideration as Humans.
ShazzieB
(22,854 posts)Founded in 1912 after the overthrow of the Qing Dynasty, the ROC originally governed mainland China. It relocated its government to the island of Taiwan in 1949 after losing the Chinese Civil War to the Chinese Communist Party, which subsequently established the People's Republic of China. The PRC has wanted the island back ever since.
When I was growing up during the Cold War, Americans referred to Taiwan as China and the People's Republic of China as Red China. The US didn't formally recognize the People's Republic until January 1, 1979.
It will be a crying shame if Trump throws Taiwan under the bus, but I wouldn't even think of putting it past him..
JohnnyRingo
(20,985 posts)I misrepresented that on the OP because I'd just read an article that pointed out that China still claims it as a province, albeit a renegade.
It may be one again by week's end.
orangecrush
(31,076 posts)Billsdaughter
(178 posts)he boarded the plane. Wonder what he, Xi and Putin are discussing vis a vis Ukraine.
sop
(19,234 posts)in return for dirt on Biden. If Trump again withheld money already approved by Congress for a multi billion dollar arms sale to Taiwan, after a "chat" with Xi where he made some sleazy quid pro quo deal, we're in Impeachment territory again.
Billsdaughter
(178 posts)defy him. Period. This whole visit screams nefarious and dastardly acts. Look at the axis of evil created here.
Mr.Bee
(1,912 posts)He didn't take the billionaire owners with him.
they went to keep an eye on him-
so he doesn't fuck up their interests.
littlemissmartypants
(34,292 posts)It will be the decision of the IT oligarchs. Which means they hold the cards here. China needs those chips, and so does the AI industry.
I'm going to say, in this case, adding up the combined cash of them versus China, they hold the majority of the leverage.
That could be good news for Taiwan and is one reason why I am glad he took them as his entourage. Though I'm somewhat begrudgingly glad I'm cautiously optimistic.
The trick is going to be getting to a logically reasoned consensus. That's going to depend on whether DJ caves to group pressure or the gang he brought rolls over and exposes a collectively weak underbelly.
Or they can't come to any agreement, bickering ensues, Xi says fuck this nonsense and declares war on Taiwan and strengthens China's alliances with North Korea, Russia, Iran and maybe even India.
That is a hard call to make.
C Moon
(13,734 posts)Scrivener7
(60,055 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(1,237 posts)Think somebody said something to him?
Buckeyeblue
(6,434 posts)Sure China could overwhelm Taiwan. However Taiwan might burn the place down before the surrender.
Pisces
(6,308 posts)running secret CIA attacks in Mexico. He doesnt care wha XI does with Taiwan, its obvious. He only care about ending the Iran war and making money. If XI offers him both he will turn a blind eye. We are living in terrible times with this guy. Everything is monetized.