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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow nice it must be to be both the plaintiff and defendant:
https://www.rawstory.com/dem-warns-trump-on-verge-of-largest-single-act-of-grand-larceny-in-american-history/Do you think Trump is looting the USA Treasury to pursue an unrealistic notion that he can proclaim himself the richest man in the world before he dies?
Irish_Dem
(82,227 posts)He will reach the goal before he leaves office.
Most of it all stolen from others, including the US taxpayers.
sop
(19,230 posts)as a tax cheat? Will they normalize it like everything else he's done? If Trump gets away with something so brazen, what's to stop him from looting Fort Knox, claiming ownership of public lands, or simply declaring himself an absolute monarch?
rampartd
(5,001 posts)for a questionable tort committed by an employee of your contractor.
his accounts must be frozen and the case somehow reversed but can a judge even stop it?
here is the worse part : the rubes will hear
"i fought the irs. for you. and won."
it guarantees his reelection 2028. no one will hear that he is and was the irs and that we are paying the settlement.
Jersey Devil
(10,851 posts)Worse than the price of gas or inflation, taking money right out of their pockets. He might as well pull up to their front porches with a pickup and start loading their lawn furniture right off the porch, including their favorite porch swing.
LetMyPeopleVote
(181,820 posts)If the president was waiting for a payout from his IRS lawsuit, a federal judge suggested he might need to start lowering his expectations.
Judge questions whether Trump can sue his own administration for billion
— Mike Walker (@newnarrative.bsky.social) 2026-04-27T19:11:24.754Z
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https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/judge-questions-whether-trump-can-sue-his-own-administration-for-10-billion
A federal judge suggested late last week that the president might have to lower his expectations. Politico reported:
President Donald Trumps $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over the leaking of his tax returns ran into turbulence Friday as a judge ordered a hearing on whether the Constitution allows the president to sue the federal government he oversees.
U.S. District Court Judge Kathleen Williams has asked Trumps private attorneys and Justice Department lawyers representing the IRS to address whether his control over the governments actions in the case means its the kind of dispute federal courts cannot consider.
Although President Trump avers that he is bringing this lawsuit in his personal capacity, he is the sitting president and his named adversaries are entities whose decisions are subject to his direction, Williams wrote in a four-page order.
It is unclear to this Court whether the Parties are sufficiently adverse to each other so as to satisfy Article IIIs case or controversy requirement, the judge added, referring to the Constitution.....
Shortly after his lawyers filed the case, the president told reporters that he assumed nobody would care if he received a lucrative payout as part of the frivolous litigation. That payout now appears in doubt. Watch this space.
We spent maybe part of one Constitutional law class on the case or controversy provision of the Constitution. This usually came up in the cases dealing with advisory opinions. Here is the relevant part of the UN Constitution
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State, between Citizens of different States,between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
Since trump is on both sides of this silly lawsuit, there is no Case or Controversy.