Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

senseandsensibility

(25,485 posts)
Wed May 13, 2026, 08:19 PM Yesterday

Chris Hayes now: Trump Sues Govt., Seeks $10 Billion IRS Lawsuit

Turn it on to find out all the mindblowing details. Unsurprisingly, trump's Justice Dept. is "weighing" settling this. Bottom line, it will come from taxpayers. And his JD will be in charge of the settlement.

Much, much more attention needs to be paid to this so good for Chris!

7 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Tim S

(296 posts)
4. If you had $10B, you could give someone $1M each day, for more than 27 years!
Wed May 13, 2026, 08:39 PM
Yesterday

$10 B = 10,000 Millionaires
10,000/365 days in a year => 27 years

How does someone whose wealth is $6 B claiming damages of $10 B ???

If he wants to give the money to charity, how about paying off the medical debt for those currently going into bankruptcy because of medical bills?

malaise

(297,815 posts)
5. Glad to hear Chris publicly correct
Wed May 13, 2026, 08:52 PM
Yesterday

Democrat Party to Democratic Party. Otherwise the ReTHUG sounded saner than his peers.

hedda_foil

(17,011 posts)
6. This has been going on for a while. The DOJ is reported to be getting ready to "settle" on what the IRS will pay
Wed May 13, 2026, 09:21 PM
Yesterday

The rule of law

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,838 posts)
7. MaddowBlog-Judge questions whether Trump can sue his own administration for $10 billion
Thu May 14, 2026, 01:14 PM
9 hrs ago

If the president was waiting for a payout from his IRS lawsuit, a federal judge suggested he might need to start lowering his expectations.

Judge questions whether Trump can sue his own administration for billion

www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Mike Walker (@newnarrative.bsky.social) 2026-04-27T19:11:24.754Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/judge-questions-whether-trump-can-sue-his-own-administration-for-10-billion

In response to highly dubious civil lawsuits, the Trump Justice Department has been exceedingly generous lately, agreeing to lucrative settlements with plaintiffs who are politically aligned with the White House. Whether Donald Trump will be among the beneficiaries, however, remains an open question.

A federal judge suggested late last week that the president might have to lower his expectations. Politico reported:

President Donald Trump’s $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over the leaking of his tax returns ran into turbulence Friday as a judge ordered a hearing on whether the Constitution allows the president to sue the federal government he oversees.

U.S. District Court Judge Kathleen Williams has asked Trump’s private attorneys and Justice Department lawyers representing the IRS to address whether his control over the government’s actions in the case means it’s the kind of dispute federal courts cannot consider
.


“Although President Trump avers that he is bringing this lawsuit in his personal capacity, he is the sitting president and his named adversaries are entities whose decisions are subject to his direction,” Williams wrote in a four-page order.

“It is unclear to this Court whether the Parties are sufficiently adverse to each other so as to satisfy Article III’s case or controversy requirement,” the judge added, referring to the Constitution.....

Shortly after his lawyers filed the case, the president told reporters that he assumed “nobody would care” if he received a lucrative payout as part of the frivolous litigation. That payout now appears in doubt. Watch this space.

We spent maybe part of one Constitutional law class on the case or controversy provision of the Constitution. This usually came up in the cases dealing with advisory opinions. Here is the relevant part of the UN Constitution

Article III, Section 2, Clause 1:

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State, between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

Since trump is on both sides of this silly lawsuit, there is no Case or Controversy.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Chris Hayes now: Trump Su...