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If this is. True. Wow ! We need to defend these sailors !
https://open.substack.com/pub/deanblundell/p/breaking-did-sailors-aboard-the-uss?r=2zlv4a&utm_medium=ios
The United States Navy is investigating whether sailors aboard the USS Gerald R. Ford the most expensive warship ever constructed, a $13 billion floating symbol of American military supremacy deliberately set fire to their own ship to end the deployment.
2naSalit
(102,286 posts)I wonder if they tried the bathroom breakage first. They've been deployed for a really long time and now they are thrown into a fucking war?
This needs to end, never should have begun.
Bread and Circuses
(1,956 posts)2naSalit
(102,286 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,070 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(23,020 posts)spanone
(141,449 posts)edhopper
(37,300 posts)Potemkin.
PeaceWave
(3,263 posts)Under Article 94 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), US Navy personnel convicted of mutiny or sedition face severe penalties, including the death penalty, life imprisonment, or other authorized court-martial punishments. Mutiny is defined as creating violence or acting in concert to refuse lawful military orders or override authority. Joe Biden would call such an offense "a big fucking deal" and it is.
malaise
(295,567 posts)That is all
Kingofalldems
(40,246 posts)blm
(114,618 posts)wnylib
(25,822 posts)The US attack on Iran is not lawful by International and US law.
roamer65
(37,921 posts)I wouldnt.
💥BOOM💥
Theres the truth.
malaise
(295,567 posts)Fire damage, clogged toilets, and sinking morale: USS Gerald R Ford to set sail for repairs in Crete
Aircraft carrier has been participating in strikes on Iran, after previously taking part in the operation to seize Venezuelas president Nicolás Maduro
underpants
(196,250 posts)A tremendous amount of porn. 😳
I was a Cav Scout so we werent raw raw types. We aimed to sit quietly in the woods of Germany and almost certainly die if the balloon went up. We dont call in - THATS where they at!
From what Ive heard from sailors, its a monotonous repetitive daily grind. Groundhog Day they call it. You are in tight quarters and you often go through days and weeks of seeing exactly the same people at the same time every single day.
Im just saying I can get they are pissed.
Codifer
(1,205 posts)The one I was in (Navy) had same list but add Benzedrine to keep up. Flight deck was a busy place to be in 1967. Not so much porn..... we had Olongapo. Also scuttlebutt.
rictofen
(266 posts)
Weird, I didn't know the Ford class island was that far forward.
InstantGratification
(435 posts)Not only is the island not that far forward, it is farther aft than on the Nimitz class. That truly is some AI slop. I had to google his name, but I knew I had heard of Dean Blundell before. He has just proven how easy it is to fool people who have pre-determined their opinion.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,020 posts)malaise
(295,567 posts)Brother Buzz
(39,853 posts)malaise
(295,567 posts)Rec
InstantGratification
(435 posts)That is not the Gerald Ford. It is AI garbage. The Island on the Ford is farther aft than on the Nimitz class, not farther forward. Also, the angled flight deck for simultaneous launch and landing operations isn't angled enough in those pics.
https://greekcitytimes.com/2026/03/17/american-super-aircraft-carrier-arrives-in-crete-for-resupply/
UTUSN
(77,628 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 18, 2026, 11:54 PM - Edit history (1)
When I reported straight from Boot Camp (after 30 days' Leave) to my rust bucket ship in the Vietnam river - me knowing nothing about nothing - we 4 or 5 Boots were toured around the ship and in a remote cranny of it were welcomed by a couple of seasoned sailors sitting on the deck and they said to us that the ship was a rust bucket that leaked and was a hazard to everybody and that some of the seasoned crew were planning something like a protest sit-down and did we want to join. Now, their facial expressions gave no inkling that they might be pranking. We Boots were shocked, taken aback, like, "Is this 'mutiny' ? " We had no clue as to what to think, much less react, so the issue just hung in the air. Nothing happened after that, but a few weeks later we went to Sasebo, Japan, for maybe some light repairs?
Later in the year's tour (1967-68) two sailors on the ship were disappeared as being either Gay or as trying to get out of service by pretending to be Gay.
There's an issue there - back then, not now? - the Draft (I volunteered) - but being a *CIVILIAN* was an unacknowledged issue. We who either volunteered for our own reasons and Draftees were Civilains to the core, not military mindsets, so had anti-authoritarianism resistance to military "order". We filtered and resisted (passively? ) the blind subservience to orders that might or might not make sense. Later, past my time and not my experience, something called "fragging" was happening in the land forces, which I'm linking to the "civilian" vs military mindsets - people serving against their will and reacting to blind obediance in the ultimate way.
PeaceWave
(3,263 posts)Court martial clears Ryan Mays after prosecutors alleged he started blaze after failing to complete Navy Seal training
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/30/navy-sailor-acquitted-fire-warship-bonhomme-richard
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TomSlick
(12,990 posts)I would think the Navy would not want to see this characterized as mutiny.
My expectation would be charges for damaging government property, under Article 108, UCMJ.
stopdiggin
(15,377 posts)Anybody that is setting fire to their OWN ship ... Has the brains of a f***ing squirrel - and is a likely candidate for being tossed overboard by his own shipmates.
AllaN01Bear
(29,318 posts)Dan
(5,133 posts)When Gerald Ford (POTUS) was discussing sending troops to Africa to fight Cubans/Africans. Some of the discussions, I do remember we lost our Company Commander which was a local event - but there were rumors about some Ships and that base in Montana.
Renew Deal
(85,042 posts)It sounds like a bad idea, immoral, and a losing issue.
Dan
(5,133 posts)posted yesterday about how hard it is to disobey an illegal order. I don't know what is going on reference the ship - but I do understand how hard it would be to disobey illegal orders.
What will probably happen in this situation is that the Captain will be relieved of duty due to Loss of Confidence - his career is over;
The Ship will be out of commission for the foreseeable future while they do repairs;
Lots of military members will be under the microscope - and not sure what will happen;
And given that our leader in the Department of Defense/War/Secretary of War - has decided that DEI must be removed - suspect that somewhere those DEI people are starting to listen to a leadership that doesn't give a damn about them and thinks that they are sub-human.
But I am not there.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,439 posts)ShazamIam
(3,103 posts)littlemissmartypants
(33,054 posts)It will be years before we learn any "truths" about what's happening under the regime.
What I do know is that more than 50% of what's on the internet is mis/disinformation.
I don't have enough bandwidth or the inclination to concern myself with a generous portion of it.
But if even a small bit of this is true, it's pretty damned entertaining. My first reaction was actually laughter. Because It reminds me of the stories the sailors in my life loved to tell when they were alive after having spent the majority of their lives on the Seven Seas.
❤️
OC375
(851 posts)Before their comrades toss them off. Fire at sea. Not cool. Not even a little.
irisblue
(37,414 posts)1.https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/12/aircraft-carrier-laundry-fire-iran/
2.https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2026/02/26/world-s-largest-aircraft-carrier-uss-gerald-ford-leaves-crete-as-iran-talks-start-report
snip-"The vessel has been at the US Naval Support Activity Souda Bay base in Crete since Monday. The US embassy in Athens has declined to comment on the carriers presence, forwarding questions to the Pentagon in Washington."
more there
Wounded Bear
(64,238 posts)We were in Norfolk Virginia, training for deployment either to the Mediterranean or to Yankee Station off of Vietnam.
A fire happened aboard the ship just before the final declaration of where we were assigned. I was on leave at the time. A short time at home before the deployment, I thought. The fire destroyed much of the officers' quarters and damaged the combat operations center severely. The USS America was sent off to Vietnam while we stayed in Norfolk for repairs. We finally left for Europe several months later.
We heard later that they caught the sailors who started the fire. We never heard a lot about the whole incident beyond that.
It happens.
Tbear
(693 posts)Flight ops on a carrier are especially grueling because planes and stuff break, its always dangerous and you are exposed to whatever weather while heading into the wind.
I doubt if these sailors have seen a port for a long while for a break.
You still dont want to set your ship on fire while at sea. Nowhere to run, put it out or you are shark bait.
jmowreader
(53,137 posts)...using a lot of the crap that won't flow through the Ford's undersized sewage system.
This fire started in a dryer vent. Dryer vent fires are more common than you'd think, especially in homes...but I figure if the people who designed this boat made the sewer pipes too small they probably also made the dryer ducts too small.
OF COURSE the Navy is going to look into whether the crew torched their own ship because...that's how the Navy does business. They don't rule anything out, but it appears at this juncture that the cause of the fire is improper maintenance.
Melon
(1,475 posts)The dryer for laundry has a manned watch every time its running due to risk of fire.
LogDog75
(1,266 posts)The carrier has been plagued by problems since it was launched. Most likely, the Navy couldn't make or afford to correct the problems and as a result accidents happen. When I was in the military we were told 99% of accidents were preventable.
GoodRaisin
(10,869 posts)Melon
(1,475 posts)In a submarine, there is a watch when the dryer is running as a high risk area for fires.