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Trump launches new threat to journalists in late night outburst - Alternet via MSNIn a tirade posted to his Truth Social platform, Trump wrote that media outlets he accused of circulating fake news should be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information. The maximum penalty for treason in the US is death.
Trumps latest attack on the US media came after his Federal Communications Commission chair, Brendan Carr, threatened Saturday to pull the broadcasting licenses of media outlets he accused of running hoaxes and news distortions. Carr did not provide specific examples.
Trump said Sunday that he was thrilled to see Carrs threat, railing against Corrupt and Highly Unpatriotic news organizations.
leftstreet
(40,361 posts)Reporting about it - treason
okay then
Vinca
(53,869 posts)Cirsium
(3,883 posts)The know-it-alls will show to explain this all to you in the most condescending terms. "Technically blah blah blah." Apparently Trump can accuse us of treason, but we can't accuse him of treason because "actually, blah blah blah."
TomSlick
(12,990 posts)the Constitution is not a technicality. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution because the definition is important. The definition protects us from treason charges for angering Trump.
The fact that Trump throws threats of treason around is a poor excuse for Democrats doing so.
Trump's actions are disloyal, stupid, possibly espionage, etc., but not treason. Neither is pissing-off Trump.
Cirsium
(3,883 posts)No definition protects us from anything. The protections supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution rest upon the good will of those in power. Absent that it is meaningless.
Arguing the definition of a term based on the Constitution is nothing but pedantry.
Fredrick Douglass:
Let me give you a word of the philosophy of reforms. The whole history of the progress of human liberty shows that all concessions yet made to her august claims have been born of earnest struggle. . .
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its mighty waters.
The struggle may be a moral one or it may be a physical one, or it may both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has and it never will. Find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart
TomSlick
(12,990 posts)The Constitution forbids conviction of Treason for any action other than waging war against the US or aiding an enemy waging war against the US. Even the most MAGAt members of SCOTUS can't talk a way around that.
Trump is talking nonsense with his threats of treason charges. Democrats are smarter than that.
Cirsium
(3,883 posts)I don't think anyone expects Trump to be tried for treason, nor will some definition protect any of us from harm at the hands of the regime.
Speaking of definitions...
Pedantic: narrowly, stodgily, and often ostentatiously scholarly
Pedant: one who is unimaginative, rigid, or overly concerned with minor details in the presentation or use of knowledge
Pedantry: slavish attention to rules, details, etc.; the habit to engage in the display of useless knowledge or minute observance of petty rules or details
Mansplaining: Talking to someone and suddenly feeling like you're back in a fifth-grade classroom with the know-it-all kid explaining how a caterpillar becomes a butterfly? Except now, it's not about insects; it's about literally anything you already know, and the "explainer" just happens to be a dude who thinks he's on stage at 'Mansplainapalooza.' Welcome to mansplaining: where condescension is king, and yes, it often wears a gendered crown.
TomSlick
(12,990 posts)Pedantry: slavish attention to rules, details, etc.; the habit to engage in the display of useless knowledge or minute observance of petty rules or details. My point is that the US Constitution is not a petty rule or detail.
Unless it is unacceptable for males to disagree with you, the plea of mansplaining is sexist.
BattleRow
(2,358 posts)Yep,everybody wants to go to heaven,but nobody wants to die.
I once read that chaos is the natural order of things,and it requires effort to create order.
You cannot substitute a wishbone for a backbone...and earnest struggle.
City Lights
(25,756 posts)They've been feeding their viewers a steady diet of bullshit for decades.
raccoon
(32,365 posts)ffr
(23,386 posts)As you can see, we have too many of people like you already, idiots who know not what they're doing in the ballot box.
These fascist threats must stop! This is not healthy for our country.
twodogsbarking
(18,563 posts)to go watch. Treason? You betcha.
erronis
(23,705 posts)Or would there just be a secret Star Chamber hidden on a remote military base (or in Texas) that could render a verdict in 2-3 minutes?
talking-liberally
(68 posts)He has committed treason by aiding and abetting our enemy, Russia, who is assisting Iran. The accuse others of what they do.
Initech
(108,602 posts)
B.See
(8,349 posts)gave a medal of freedom award to a murdered hate preaching demagogue who they billed as a 'champion of free speech.'
Apparently, 'free speech' applies only to THEM.
GAJMac
(261 posts)The billionaire media owners will take care of the threats, and if necessary, the firings.
Rob H.
(5,834 posts)He disseminates false information literally all the time. Charge him first.