I believe the DHS shutdown is becoming a political liability for us.

[everyonematters]

The long lines are continuing at the airports. The TSA agents are working without pay. Air traffic controllers are becoming overstressed.

The largest block of voters are not Democrats or Republicans. They are independents. Many of them don't trust either party to make a difference in their lives. Shutdowns don't help change that; they reinforce the distrust. There is only so much a party can accomplish when it is out of power. If our goal is to make a difference in people's lives, then we need to think strategically about the future to win elections. In 28, if we can capture all three facets of control, that is when we will have the power to make the bold changes that need to be made. In order to get there, we will have to expand our appeal beyond the Democratic Party.

I understand the moral argument behind DHS shutdown. The Trump administration is responsible for the abuses by ICE and the immigration policies. We are responsible for our actions also.

[hatrack]

1. Oh, so let's let ICE keep running amok, because (checks notes) someday we'll win all three branches.

Sorry. No sale.

[Blues Heron]

2. There was no line at Logan yesterday, what you saw was a spring break crowd.

[WSHazel]

4. The Republicans are shutting down TSA

This is not a moral argument, this is politics. Cave and the Democrats lose.

[rso]

5. TSA

Dems have offered to fund TSA separately but rethugs refused.

[Arazi]

6. Oh ffs, I lost my health insurance coverage because Dems caved just like this

Now you’re advocating they cave again and unleash DHS/ICE?

🤬

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. I don't agree

Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami in November.

Skyrocketing gas prices, as well as healthcare premiums, and inflation in general, will have far more impact on voters than long lines at TSA in airports.

[HappyH]

8. Yep let's just cave again

A proven winning strategy!

[Ocelot II]

9. Spring break is over.

The blizzards and other bad weather that were causing flight delays are also over. The TSA lines will still be longer than usual but not crazy long like they were last week. Let's not cave on this and fund ICE just because of long lines at the airport.

[NewHendoLib]

10. No. Caving. To. MAGA. EVER.

[Javaman]

11. nope.

who's in charge?

not us.

[walkingman]

12. Stop listening to the GOP - they could fund TSA if they wished, it is all about political pressure

based on lies and deceit. Keep it shut down as long as it takes.

[Mad_Machine76]

13. Dems have tried to offer bills to fund everything DHS but ICE

but, so far, those are being rejected by Republicans, so.........?

Besides, ICE has all (more than) of the funding it needs for awhile, so, frankly, they can just go to hell.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. Yeah, uh, NO.

Caving to the repigs and Trumpedo is not an option.

[patphil]

15. Why do I get the feeling that the Iranian war is very convenient as a means to pressure Democrats to end the shutdown.

It's the timing of the thing. Israel has wanted our help in taking out Iran for years. Why do we now have this situation where Israel is telling us that they plan to attack Iran, and that we need to help for "defensive" purposes?
You'd almost think that Bibi and Trump planned this.
Of course the law of unintended consequences reared it's ugly head and the whole thing went FUBAR, as these kind of things always seem to do.
I'm just not buying the whole premise of the war. It's especially worrisome since Trump seems to not have a reasonable answer when asked why we're there.

[Keepthesoulalive]

20. I can answer that

Trump is an idiot who is way above his station. He has no plans or intellect other than chaos. But this time it’s biting him in his derrière.

[patphil]

22. Yeah, I agree. Full blown narcissist who can't see beyond the mirror.

[Wiz Imp]

16. Completely counter to reality

https://navigatorresearch.org/americans-are-fed-up-with-cruel-immigration-policies/

Awareness Of DHS Shutdown Lower Than Last Fall’s Government Shutdown, But Americans Blame Trump and Republicans In Congress
61% of Americans have heard, read, or seen information about the current partial government shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Awareness is notably low among independents (52% have seen some or a lot about the shutdown) and passive news consumers (47% have seen some or a lot about the shutdown).

By a 19-point margin, Americans blame Trump and Republicans in Congress (48% blame) for the current shutdown over Democrats in Congress. However, 24% say they blame both groups equally.

[Torchlight]

17. I tend to see the vast majority's fingers pointed at Mr. trump on this one

I think it's merely more of the slow erosion of right wing capital as his grafts become more and more obvious to the public at large. Every passing day, he provides otherwise apathetic voters a compelling reason to vote against his agenda.

[gulliver]

18. It was never a good idea.

As has been noted, ICE is already fully funded. It's just dumb to make TSA and other federal workers go without pay or quit...mainly as a gesture, imo, to the people who think they are fighting for the cause as they set it back.

[Bobstandard]

19. Republicans could fund TSA in a heartbeat

Democrats support a stand alone bill. Our senators and congress people need to keep saying that, loudly and ad nauseum. You need to say it too. call your Senators and Reps to make the point.

Caving to Republicans on this won’t help a bit but will demoralize the troops.

[gulliver]

21. Unfortunately, almost no one understands the nuance

Those of us who focus on politics a lot drift easily into thinking that all that is needed is for "the people to be made aware." To that end, all that is necessary is speaking out, protesting, resisting, fighting, and making a stand. But, imo, we mistake "performance," regardless of how sincere, extreme, or stage-crafted, as "doing something." It almost never does anything.

Some of the troops are too easy to demoralize. Troops who demoralize too easily need to gut check more and ruminate less on social media imo.

[sinkingfeeling]

23. The Democrats have offered to fund just TSA and the GOP said no.

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/news/minority/in-24-hours-senate-republicans-block-five-separate-bills-to-fund-tsa-fema-cisa-coast-guard-and-other-dhs-functions

[Demsrule86]

24. I don't give a damn about airline lines...we will not fund ICE or DHS...NO No