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gab13by13

(31,659 posts)
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 10:08 AM 17 hrs ago

Ther are 2 Epstein threads on the front page of DU

Mine makes #3.

Looks like it's over, nothing to see. Krasnov rapes a 13 year old, reportedly, but you know what, the statement that Krasnov raped a 13 year old is believable, even if it didn't happen, that says a lot about the worthless piece of shit he is.

I live among Magats and I am blasting them with the Republican party is a party of pedophiles and Epstein enablers. No debate with them just constant repetition.

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Ther are 2 Epstein threads on the front page of DU (Original Post) gab13by13 17 hrs ago OP
Corporate McPravda wants to focus on the "Epstein the child abuser is dead" angle. Kid Berwyn 17 hrs ago #1
Release the Epstein autopsy gab13by13 17 hrs ago #4
Former Officer Tartaglione certainly has changed his tune. Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #6
Melanie Stansbury says dumpy is in the center of this, "trumpstein mafia (my words)" Clouds Passing 17 hrs ago #2
Nope. Kingofalldems 17 hrs ago #3
We can walk and chew gum ya know Fiendish Thingy 17 hrs ago #5

Kid Berwyn

(23,707 posts)
1. Corporate McPravda wants to focus on the "Epstein the child abuser is dead" angle.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 10:22 AM
17 hrs ago

They'll toss a culprit or two to the dogs of the press to help the Owners of the operation skate. For instance, Trump 45 Attorney General (#3?) Bill Barr thought a former officer would make an ideal final cell mate for pedo poster boy Jeffrey Epstein.

NEVER mentioned, of course, is how Barr's father, Donald Barr, recognized the young drop-out's potential as a teacher for the exclusive college-prep academy, The Dalton School of Manhattan.

So, to eliminate any unpleasant connections between Mr. Epstein and nice people, Mr. Barr assigned one Nicholas Tartaglione as Jeffrey Epstein’s first cellmate. Unmentioned at the time, Mr. Tartaglione is muscular x-cop-cum drug dealer then-charged, now convicted, quadruple murderer.

For some reason no one in authority found confusing, Epstein said he didn't appreciate it when he woke up to find the killer ex-cop's muscle-y hands around his neck.





To be fair, Tartaglione denied making the marks on Epstein’s neck when the presidents’ friend was found unresponsive in his cell the first time. Barr’s DoJ was surprised to hear the news and moved Tartaglione to another cell.

Perhaps this under-reported story is why many today think Epstein tried to kill himself.

https://yonkerstimes.com/dirty-westchester-ex-cop-is-epsteins-cell-mate/

The assignment of a violent psychopath as a cell-mate makes one wonder if Barr really had Epstein’s safety in mind. Otherwise, somebodies high up in the MAGANAZIGOP might have wanted to shut Epstein up permanently before there had been a trial, let alone a conviction.

Recently, Tartaglione told Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post that Epstein confided in him that the Feds offered Epstein a deal in exchange for dirt on Donnie Dipshit. Tartaglione added that Epstein told the Feds he barely knew Trump, that they didn’t like each other, but Dipshit was nice to females, and that he knew nothing about Trump’s politics. Right-o.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/18/us-news/feds-offered-jeffrey-epstein-a-deal-for-dirt-on-trump-ex-cellmate/



Who among us doesn't appreciate waking up to find a quadruple-murder suspect's friendly hands choking the life out of one's neck?

Well, there are reasons to remove one's more vocal problems from the spectacle of a trial and the microphone that might provide. Why's that matter to the BFEE -- for which Barr has spent a life toiling?





The Ties That Bind Jeffrey Epstein, William Barr & Donald Trump

Todd Neikirk
Hill Reporter, May 19, 2019

During Attorney General, William Barr’s confirmation hearing, he was mostly peppered with questions about how he would handle the Mueller Report. Senator Ben Sasse’s (R-NE) questioning, however, diverged from the pack. Sasse asked Barr about the lenient sentence given out to billionaire pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. The future Attorney General told Sasse that he would look into the matter.

This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a number of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age.

Apparently, the hire was a successful one. The New Yorker wrote in a 2003 profile on Epstein, “he was something of a Robin Williams–in–Dead Poets Society type of figure, wowing his high-school classes with passionate mathematical riffs.” Epstein’s mathematical skills caught the eye of Bear Stearns’ chairman, Alan “Ace” Greenberg, whose son attended the Dalton School. Greenberg hired Epstein as an options trader and the former teacher was able to amass a fortune.

Continues....

BUSTED LINK: https://hillreporter.com/the-ties-that-bind-jeffrey-epstein-william-barr-donald-trump-34107

VIA Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190710125505/https://hillreporter.com/the-ties-that-bind-jeffrey-epstein-william-barr-donald-trump-34107



Small world. And very, very bad.



Jeffrey Epstein Bragged Bill Barr was in Charge, Not Trump

The pedophile told Ehud Barak he had “direct knowledge” that Barr was in charge in DC, according to a new book that also claims Steve Bannon gave Epstein advice on his PR strategy.


Lachlan Cartwright
The Daily Beast, October 15, 2021

A controversial new book from the journalist Michael Wolff claims that the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein bragged that Bill Barr was the man in charge during Trump’s time in office and that the president “lets someone else be in charge, until other people realize that someone, other than him, is in charge. When that happens, you’re no longer in charge.”

The tome, Too Famous: The Rich, the Powerful, the Wishful, the Notorious and the Damned, also claims that Steve Bannon and former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak tried to help Epstein rehabilitate his image, even suggesting that he try to get favorable coverage on Rachel Maddow or 60 Minutes.

According to Wolff—who reportedly tried to buy New York Magazine with Epstein and disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein—Barak asked Epstein the million-dollar question of who was in charge at the White House. “‘What I want to know from you all-knowing people is: Who is in charge, who is,’ [Barak] said, putting on an American accent over his own often impenetrable Israeli one, ‘calling the shots?’ This was a resumption of the reliable conversation around Epstein: the ludicrousness and vagaries of Donald Trump—once among Epstein’s closest friends. ‘Here is the question every government is asking. Trump is obviously not in charge because he is—’”

Wolff claims that Epstein interrupted the former politico and called Trump—his former playboy party pal—a “moron,” then confided, “At the moment, Bill Barr is in charge.” The pedophile financier continued: “It’s Donald’s pattern...he lets someone else be in charge, until other people realize that someone, other than him, is in charge. When that happens, you’re no longer in charge.”

Barak allegedly pressed, “But let me ask you, why do you think this Barr took this job, knowing all this?”

“The motivation was simple: money,” Epstein replied. “Barr believes he’ll get a big payday out of this ... If he keeps Donald in office, manages to hold the Justice Department together, and help the Republican Party survive Donald, he thinks this is worth big money to him. I speak from direct knowledge. Extremely direct. Trust me.”

Continues...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-bragged-barr-was-in-charge-not-trump/



Why does Who's da Boss matter? It shows who Putin answers to.



A: The Carlyle Group and Friends.

Who’s Enabling Putin’s Enablers?


BY SAM PIZZIGATI
CounterPunch, March 29, 2022

Where would Vladimir Putin be without the Russian oligarchy? Without Russia’s oligarchs, political leaders of the Western world have concluded, Putin would be tottering. Western leaders have made squeezing Russia’s richest a central piece of their strategy to end Putin’s Ukraine cross-border assault.

These same Western leaders, unfortunately, have failed to take seriously what ought to be an equally pressing question: Where would Russia’s oligarchs be without the West, without the Wall Streeters, wealth managers, and assorted other high-finance riff-raff “paid millions,” as Institute for Policy Studies analyst Chuck Collins puts it, “to help billionaires sequester trillions”?

Western leaders have essentially been ignoring this question almost ever since the old Soviet Union collapsed. And now we’re paying the price. Those Ukraine sanctions against Russia’s oligarchs? They come with a huge loophole. The Western world’s opaque web of tax havens and anonymous corporations is essentially rendering much of those sanctions ineffective.

Snippe…

The U.S. wealth defense industry, we need to remember, hasn’t just been helping Russian oligarchs hide their fortunes. America’s money-handlers have for years been helping them pile up ever grander fortunes. They’ve steered the illicit funds of Russian oligarchs into U.S. real estate, investment funds, and “even factories,” says Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jake Bernstein, a senior reporter on the 2016 bombshell “Panama Papers” tax avoidance exposé.

The Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich has used “a network of banks, law firms and advisers in multiple countries,” the New York Times just reported, to invest “billions in American hedge funds.” Along the way, he tapped the expertise and contacts of U.S. high-finance giants ranging from Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to BlackRock and the Carlyle Group.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/whos-enabling-putins-enablers/



Coolio was right. This world is a gangsters' paradise. If we're smart -- and lucky -- democracy may yet these demented and perverted Z Dixie NAZI scum. That, of course, is up to you and me and every good person who knows.

gab13by13

(31,659 posts)
4. Release the Epstein autopsy
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 10:32 AM
17 hrs ago

2 Forensic doctors looked at the X-rays of Epstein's neck and both concluded that the broken bones in his neck were not consistent in hangings but were consistent in strangulations.

Kid Berwyn

(23,707 posts)
6. Former Officer Tartaglione certainly has changed his tune.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 12:03 PM
15 hrs ago

At first, he had no idea how his hands got around Epstein's neck. Now, he's starting to remember it was "on purpose"...



Epstein Cellmate Claims Trump Administration Wanted Pervert Powerbroker ‘Dead’

Man who shared a cell with Epstein made the explosive claim in a pardon plea obtained by the Daily Beast.


by Tom Latchem
The Daily Beast, February 7, 2026

Jeffrey Epstein’s prison cellmate claims to have evidence that the Trump administration wanted the disgraced financier dead and left him unprotected “on purpose,” according to a document obtained by the Daily Beast.

Nicholas Tartaglione, a quadruple murderer and former police officer, filed a pardon/commutation petition last summer in which he claimed that Epstein was deliberately exposed to violence in the hope that he would not survive long enough to stand trial.

Prior to Epstein’s death on Aug. 10, 2019, which officials ruled a suicide, jail bosses decided that America’s most high-profile prisoner should share a cell with an accused mass murderer for reasons that have never been explained.

Tartaglione had a reputation for extreme violence and a self-confessed hatred of child sex offenders. Tartaglione—who Epstein told prison guards had tried to kill him three weeks before he was found dead—claims “it is no coincidence” that he was “deliberately” moved into the same jail as Epstein and “placed in the same cell” as the convicted child sex offender.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-cellmate-nicholas-tartaglione-alleges-trump-administration-wanted-wealthy-financier-dead/



Then-AG Bill Barr must've thought no one would ever ask, why would he introduce Nicholas Tartaglione to Jeffrey Epstein? I mean apart from Barr's pa, former OSS Officer Donald Barr, hiring the same college-dropout but very "personable" Jeffrey Epstein to teach wealthy Manhattanites' children, apart from what Roy Cohn, using the incorrect language of his day, said to an interviewer when he was on the way out.





The Final Lesson Donald Trump Never Learned From Roy Cohn

The unrepentant political hitman who taught a younger Trump how to flout the rules didn’t get away with it forever.


By MICHAEL KRUSE
Politico, September 19, 2019

EXCERPT…

He was preening and combative, look-at-me lavish and loud. It was an act. The truth was he hated what he was—a lawyer who hated lawyers, a Jewish person who hated Jewish people, and a gay person, fiercely closeted if haphazardly hidden, who hated gay people, calling them “fags” and expressing his conviction that “homosexual teachers are a grave threat to our children,” according to both his biography and autobiography. In his book, Zirin calls Cohn “a quintessential hypocrite, a classic Tartuffe.” He wanted the world to see only the person he “shaped and invented,” in von Hoffman’s words, “a secret man living a public life.”

And as a litigator, Cohn had earned a reputation as “an intimidator and a bluffer,” attorney Arthur Liman would write, “famous among lawyers for winning cases by delays, evasions, and lies.” He was unorganized and largely disinterested in specifics, relying less on preparation and more on his belligerence and his vast, nonpareil network of social and political connections that spanned parties and stretched from New York pay-to-play clubhouses to the backrooms of Washington as well as the Oval Office.

“People came to me,” Cohn explained in Penthouse, “because my public image was that I was unlike most other lawyers. Not the typical bill-by-the-hour, do-nothing, cover-up shyster but someone who won’t be pushed around.” His clients called him a “pit bull” and “a shield” and included mob bosses who met in his office to use attorney-client privilege to dodge potential wiretaps. “He’ll bend the rules to the limit,” a New York law professor once told Newsweek. “He will stop at nothing,” a law school classmate once told Esquire.

His biographer likened him to Houdini.

Cohn, however, preferred a different comparison. “If you can get Machiavelli as a lawyer,” he once said, “you’re certainly no fool of a client.”

He was roundly, practically fetishistically unapologetic, remorseless, shameless, “totally impervious to being insulted,” said gossip columnist Liz Smith, living by a code of blunt, come-at-me audacity, accessible only to those unhampered by morality.

“He made his legal and political career,” in the estimation of the British historian Eric Hobsbawm, “in a milieu where money and power override rules and law—indeed where the ability to get, and get away with, what lesser citizens cannot, is what proves membership of an elite.”

CONTINUES…

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/19/roy-cohn-donald-trump-documentary-228144/



An example of why a democracy would wanna know:

... Who knew what when? In Palo Alto, after Epstein’s conviction, he was a guest at a dinner for the MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden that was hosted by LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman. At the same dinner Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. Is money so powerful that it tramples all other considerations? As James Baldwin put it, “I can’t believe what you say, because I see what you do.”

One of the most remarkable moments in Tyrnauer’s documentary comes near the end, when it’s no longer possible to pretend that Cohn isn’t a liar and a fraud, when it’s no longer possible to deny that he lacks both shame and conscience. When Cohn was about to be disbarred in 1986 for defrauding his clients and for taking advantage of a dying and incompetent man, character witnesses began to emerge. There were letters to the court from William F. Buckley Jr., Barbara Walters, William Safire, and, of course, Trump, who wrote that Cohn “has been extremely loyal and extremely honest.” Were Cohn’s parties—was his protection—really that good?...

Source: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a29130905/roy-cohn-documentary-wheres-my-roy-cohn/

Fiendish Thingy

(22,482 posts)
5. We can walk and chew gum ya know
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 10:43 AM
17 hrs ago

Just because your outrage d’jour isn’t the main event anymore on the DU front page doesn’t mean folks don’t care about the sexual exploitation of minors.

The list of outrages with Trump is the longest in history for a president.

And we have hundreds of elections to win, and defend against ratfuckery..

And many folks are struggling to make ends meet in Trump’s shitty economy.

Feel free to remind folks about the Epstein scandal, and any new info or developments the pop up, but please don’t insult folks by insisting they have the same level of visible outrage or primary priorities other than getting Dems back in the majority.

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