This "raped a 13 year old and then threatened to "disappear" her and have her family killed" thing keeps getting worse

[Miles Archer]

I guess that among the many questions I have about this, the one that tops my list is "What is it about Trump that would make one say "OH, he'd NEVER do that," having bragged about grabbing women by the p*ssy and "anything you want" and "getting away with it because he's a star?" Or the fact that he was found, in court, to be an ADJUDICATED RAPIST who RAPED E Jean Carroll?"

Under penalty of perjury, a witness told the FBI back in 2016 that they had “personally witnessed” President Donald Trump threaten to “disappear” a girl and have her entire family killed, according to a document released by the Justice Department on Friday.

Released as part of the DOJ’s publication of around 3.5 million files on Jeffrey Epstein, the FBI tip was submitted by an individual using the pseudonym “Tiffany Doe,” and includes details of an alleged threat Trump made to a plaintiff in a lawsuit.

“I personally witnessed Defendant Trump telling Plaintiff that she shouldn’t ever say anything if she didn’t want to disappear like the 12-year-old female [redacted], and that he was capable of having her whole family killed,” the FBI tip reads, signed under penalty of perjury on June 18, 2016.

The plaintiff claimed to have been employed by Epstein from 1990 to 2000, and told the FBI that she was personally threatened by Epstein in a similar manner to the way she alleged Trump had threatened the unknown plaintiff in the unknown lawsuit.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-epstein-2675065475/

[CoopersDad]

1. "Trump telling Plaintiff that she shouldn't ever say anything"

Just to give this post more attention, K/R.

[Trueblue1968]

22. I will kick this thread up also. Whats more, i will post it on FB and instagram.

[AZJonnie]

2. This is the "Jane Doe/Katie Johnson" video/lawsuit, which was promoted in the runup to Nov 2016 by Never Trumpers

Tiffany Doe is Katie Johnson's "witness", so neither the plaintiff nor the lawsuit is "unknown". Well, nobody knows who Katie Johnson or Tiffany Doe actually are IRL, but rawstory's categorization that we don't know what the lawsuit was/who it was from are mistaken.

Nothing about this story is newly released (including Tiffany Doe signing a statement bearing witness to "Katies" claims), it's actually 10 years old. IIRC, a bunch of stuff about this lawsuit was released in the LAST document dump as well, about a month ago.

Its existence will be used against Eric Holder when the GQP House members interview him in their upcoming "Epstein Hearings" (also including the Clintons, Barr, Comey, Mueller, Sessions, Alberto Gonzalez, and Loretta Lynch), mark my words. That's why Bondi releases docs about this case every chance she gets. Holder is going to get up on the stand and say "we found nothing to back up these allegations", and the House monkeys will go "HAH! SEE! Not even the FBI believed Trump did anything wrong!", and then attack him for the DoJ never publicly stating that they'd found the accusations not believable, because he wanted Hillary to win, etc.

This info being released (yet again) is a setup, not meant to hurt Trump at all.

[cksmithy]

5. I sure hope it is not a set up, but it certainly seems to be from what I have read of released documents.

[Scrivener7]

14. Gloria Allred knows who they are.

[AZJonnie]

19. I would bet that she's more familiar with these men (AFTER the fact, I mean, not that her/Lisa did anything wrong!)

Norm Lubow / “Al Taylor” – Reported as the key promoter behind the scenes: he helped orchestrate the initial pseudonymous filing, arranged the February 11, 2016 videotaped testimony, and then shopped that video to media outlets (Gawker, tabloids, etc.), reportedly trying to sell it for up to about $1 million.

Jonathann Launer – The videographer who filmed Johnson’s February 2016 testimony; he was reportedly offered (and in some accounts paid) a stake in any proceeds from selling the tape.​

Steve Baer – A conservative "Never Trump" Illinois donor who sent money to support the effort (wired tens of thousands to Lubow/“Taylor” and Launer), expecting the video and story to surface; later fell out with them when more money was requested.

More about Lubow:

Norm Lubow was a producer on The Jerry Springer Show in the mid‑ to late‑1990s, after first appearing on the show as a guest.

He started out as a frequent guest (often under his “Reverend Bud Green” persona), then became a freelance guest‑booker and eventually a full‑time producer around 1996.

His role included finding and staging “fake” guests, coaching them to create on‑air drama, and (per his own later claims) sometimes arranging women from those bookings to sleep with Springer after tapings.

He says he was fired in 1998 after an ABC 20/20 exposé accused him of scripting and coaching guests, which the show’s executives treated as going too far even for Springer‑style theatrics

My best guess is that Lisa may have been taken in by a con in this case. Worth noting that her involvement was VERY minimal and very late, and she ended up hung out to dry when she arranged a press conference for "Katie" and then she didn't show up.

[dpibel]

32. AZ Johnny on the Spot

It's all a big nothingburger, isn't it?

Or am I getting you wrong?

[AZJonnie]

39. This one particular account of Epstein's depravity is one that Democrats would be wise

to take with a large grain of salt, and there's a LOT of reasons for that. And Bondi keeps putting things about this Katie Johnson case out there in releases. I don't think there really *is* a Katie Johnson (or Tiffany Doe) in real life. To be clear, I specifically think this is *not* a woman making up a false story, I think the woman in the video is an actor, and it was a hoax perpetrated by Lubow,, for money, and to hurt Trump politically, basically.

Does not at all mean I'm saying ALL accounts are like this, this is a very unique and particular case. Everything about it is sketchy. The fact that Bondi keeps putting info from this case out, even though it appears to be very bad for Trump, suggests to me that she knows the same. I think she knows it was judged as not credible in the past by the DoJ, which makes me think the GQP is up to something. Maybe they want us to try to hang this on Trump and end up looking bad when people like Lynch and Garland get on the stand and go "this was judged to be not credible" by DoJ.

The fact that the GQP are holding upcoming hearings that include basically all Trump's "Deep State" enemies on the general topic of "DoJ response to Epstein case", I'm thinking through what happens surrounding this particular account and WHY Bondi keeps putting docs about it into the releases. At minimum I think they want to be able to point at it and gloat and say "look, people make up all kinds of crazy stories about Trump", and attack Lynch for not "clearing Trump's name" and/or "going after the person(s) who committed perjury against him".

Epstein and Maxwell themselves are guilty as fuck of all sorts of crimes, so "It" is NOT a nothingburger, but THIS account? I've judged it, after a LOT of thought and research, to be very likely to be made up. An opportunistic piggyback onto a true story, if you will.

[leftstreet]

3. Cadaver Dogs to Trump Golf Courses STAT n/t

[Trueblue1968]

23. Can these dogs smell human remains buried after decades??

[musette_sf]

26. and it adds a new cast

to Ivana’s unceremonious finale. Like the only difference was that she got a headstone.

[Dave Bowman]

27. Yeah, he's dumb enough to have buried corpses on his own golf courses, no doubt.

[Uncle Joe]

4. If morality means nothing to him, the story is true, and he's an open book limited only by his immediate observations.

I'm wondering if a journalist were to ask *rump using a really friendly, sweet demeanor in a nice respectful way whether this story was true with a smile on their face, would he admit to it without an attorney standing ready to stop him?

Thanks for the thread Miles Archer

[littlemissmartypants]

9. Uncle Joe, Don's a psychopath.

Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior

The rest of the story is 30% of America is, too.

https://psychopathyis.org/stats/

[red dog 1]

15. He would never admit to it. He never admits to anything.

[Nasruddin]

24. Except

When he brags about it, and/or lies.

It's incredibly difficult to deal with a person like this.

[angrychair]

6. From Epstein files released by DOJ and then hidden again

From the Epstein Files that were released but then hidden again by the DOJ:

“Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in and trump would auction them off. He measured the children’s vulva and vaginas by entering a finger and rated the children on tightness,” the complaint reads.

If that isn't the only thing we care about then we have already given up and given in as a nation.

[bluestarone]

10. FUCKING MONSTERS!

[sop]

12. That has to be the most horrible thing anyone's ever revealed about Trump. I feel unclean just reading it.

[angrychair]

13. To be clear

It's an unsubstantiated accusation but it should have been investigated and there are at least 4 million documents that have not been released or have been completely redacted without explanation...in direct violation of the law.
Revelations like this make it incumbent upon us to know every single, unredacted, detail.

[progressoid]

34. Prior to the election, Fox news claimed that the open border

allowed child trafficking. As supporters of child safety, I'm sure that they will be covering this 24/7 as well.
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[sop]

38. They're more concerned with Haitian immigrants eating pets.

[BonnieJW]

36. No, this is more horrible

There were men getting turned on watching

[dalton99a]

7. Kick

[Evolve Dammit]

8. I hope survivor's and their legal reps start with their list they were compiling. Clearly all redacted by DOJ

[Grokenstein]

11. The things king piggy already says in public make this completely plausible.

[Blue Owl]

16. Who else besides Ivana is buried at the pedophile's golf course?

Sounds like it’s a dumping ground for all his rape disposable victims

[rampartd]

20. he has boats and airplanes and plenty of ocean

[Nasruddin]

25. Skepticism warranted

Burying or disposing of victims.... you know he didn't do this personally, even if he supervised. Somebody else ran
the backhoe, dug the ditch, piloted the boat, what have you. He had to have help. So where are those people?

This means a very tight conspiracy. This makes me skeptical.

[red dog 1]

17. Katie Johnson's Full Testimony of 2/11/16

("Tiffany Doe" was the eyewitness who spoke under penalty of perjury)

[Uncle Joe]

18. Beginning at about the 13:00 mark Tiffany Doe describes a sexual role playing incident

whereupon *rump walks in on two maids making out and "threatens to call Immigration against the "Spanish maid" to give him blow job, that's basically his foreign poliicy.

[Wiz Imp]

43. This is NOT testimony

This is a person claiming to be "Katie Johnson" (not her real name) telling a story on a video that was made completely on her own terms. There was nothing remotely legally binding about this video.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

21. These serious federal allegations warrant an investigation.

Link to tweet

[Wiz Imp]

44. I'm not defending Trump, but people having called in tips to an FBI tipline

that any crackpot could call with any made up story is not remotely "credible Federal evidence"

[Martin68]

28. Our president is a monster protected by monsters.

[Blue Owl]

29. And this FUCKING PEDOPHILE is running "ICE"

An illegal army that is KIDNAPPING CHILDREN and disappearing them to undisclosed locations.

EVERY PARENT AND EVERY CITIZEN should be demanding Donald Trumps head and I can’t believe it’s not already rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue after this revelation.

This goes so, so far beyond the worst thing any president has ever done by miles and miles and miles….

[woodsprite]

30. My daughter and I were just talking about the new dump of files.

We've decided the verdict is still out on the validity of the files. I don't trust them not to tamper with them. They've had plenty of time to cherry-pick and doctor them up. And if these are the one they 'selected' to share, it makes you wonder what's in the ones they are holding on to. Daughter also pointed out that most of the entries are reports or 'tips' not from actual results of investigations.

[Jack Valentino]

31. Knowing everything we already know about Trump, and the things he has bragged about,

I remain more inclined to believe these allegations are true, than not.

[applegrove]

33. There must be an FBI investigation into this either in the past,

present or future.

[2naSalit]

35. Seems like...

This whole cabal of monsters are maintaining the slave trade around the globe.

I think at least 80% of all accusations are probably true.

We need to run them out of power ASAP, by whatever means necessary.

[FakeNoose]

37. We need to remember that this story was never investigated by the feds

... as far as we know. The story may be true ... or it may be total hogwash. We have to keep an open mind until it has been thoroughly checked out. (The former employee did sign the affidavit however.)

On the other hand, this story was making the rounds even back when Chump was in his first term. It's not a new story, and we have to wonder how many others are like this in the DoJ files that have been ignored....

Jeffrey Epstein himself hinted that he had lots of "stories" to pass on to Putin before the Helsinki meeting in 2018.

[Miles Archer]

40. This is why "getting to the truth" about Epstein, and Trump's relationship with him, may never happen.

The ISSUE, for me, is that just about every rotten act one might accuse Trump of is something he was fully capable of doing.

He's ALWAYS seen women as disposable, a "consumable," here to bring him pleasure and flatter him and go away when he has no use for them.

He DESCRIBES women in horrible, disrespectful, distasteful, sexist, misogynistic ways.

And WHAT HAPPENED at the DEBATES when Hillary Clinton implied that he was a tax fraud?

He replied "THAT MAKES ME SMART."

He's a scumbag, a heartless, soulless, immoral, gluttonous excuse for a human being, so when we ask "COULD he have DONE these things," the conclusion I come to is "Yes, and A LOT MORE."

[FakeNoose]

42. All good points - Hillary Clinton did find stuff and never used it back in 2016

Remember the "Steele dossier"? That was leaked after the election was over, but Hillary had all the info early. She could have used it but she didn't, as far as I know.

To me, it's amazing that ANY woman would vote for him, ever! That's even discounting the pedophile stuff.

[bdamomma]

41. Du'ers

you got to listen which I have just posted on Liberal You Tubers, Joy Reid's podcast about Don Lemon's arrest There is much information and guests she interviewed. Please try to listen. Towards the end of her show she comes across a leak (she said the information could not be verified at the moment). About Epstein, Trump, Ghislaine, Don Jr. Ivanka, and the "Calendar girls" which were mentioned. Gross behaviours and actions were taken place. I will not say anymore!!!!

[Wiz Imp]

45. Every single piece of information about this story has been public information since before

the election in 2016. Yes they are serious allegations, but the entire story first came out under suspicious circumstances in 2016. I'm not saying it's not true, but nobody shoud just automaticaly assume it's true either. I believe it's equally likely to be true as it is to be total BS. The ridiculous thing is why are people jumping on this now as if it's something new? Where have they been for the past 10 years?

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/09/03/trump-epstein-katie-johnson/

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-traffic-accusations/

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/12/22/trump-settlements-minors/

https://www.snopes.com/collections/photo-trump-girls-rumors/