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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElecting Donald Trump a second time is the worst thing this country has done to itself
I cant even say its the worst mistake, but it wasnt a mistake. People voted for this motherfucker intentionally. I see how countries implode.
Never thought Id feel grateful that Americans felt the need to add presidential term limits to the constitution. The only hope I have is that Trumps time as President will come to end.
Blue Owl
(58,501 posts)Tree Lady
(13,080 posts)And whatever they did to machines I fully believe he stole it.
CommonHumanity
(351 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,108 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,108 posts)RockCreek
(1,419 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,108 posts)debsy
(814 posts)SheltieLover
(77,980 posts)Initech
(107,861 posts)misanthrope
(9,419 posts)The worst thing this nation ever did to itself was not adequately punishing the traitors in the Confederacy and not doing more to shatter the regional culture.
debsy
(814 posts)built an amendment into the Constitution that deemed humans with dark skin as 3/5 of a human. That systemic failure has led to many, if not all, of our subsequent problems.
sop
(17,819 posts)LuvLoogie
(8,617 posts)Too much democracy for the non-white, non-christian
Emile
(41,201 posts)I don't see how he won every battleground state. Anyone who orchestrated an insurrection 4 years earlier to steal an election, is more than capable of cheating to win.
FakeNoose
(40,562 posts)Will we ever be able to prove? I don't know, but I sure hope so!
yellow dahlia
(5,108 posts)reveals their motivation.
Initech
(107,861 posts)Literal theft at our expense.
yellow dahlia
(5,108 posts)DSandra
(1,712 posts)What happens when you mindlessly vote for change because you don't bother to do further research onto your outrage, and then end up falling for the con-artist which happens to be much worse.
Warpy
(114,468 posts)who know they've been let down by both parties for decades and are falling farther behind every year. I knew how bad Fatso was going to be, so I didn't agree with them, but I can certainly identify with where so many are coming from.
It's why we had the spectacle of pro Sanders voters switching to Fatso., something neither party understood.
Unfortunately, while continuing support for the stability of a system that contines to fail more and more of us every single year is self defeating, voting for a wrecking ball like Fatso tends to destroy more of the good than the bad.
Nicely stated
DSandra
(1,712 posts)The hell that voters chose this last election will bring down most everyone not in the 1% with it, including people from other countries. People just decided to now be responsible for bringing hell to everyone else.
mdbl
(8,220 posts)they had plenty of forewarning.
Soul_of_Wit
(26 posts)Some voters always want to "throw the bums out." The idea that the new bums might be worse than the old bums is not even briefly considered.
Many voters hate inflation. I learned this as an adolescent in the '70s, when we had real inflation. The party in power will always be punished for any significant inflation. Blaming it, correctly, on the rapid economic upswing after the pandemic downturn was never going to work.
A reminder: The Republican Party is the disease. Donald is the symptom. MAGA is the horrendous side-effect.
DSandra
(1,712 posts)They took advantage of some inflation to use it as an excuse to raise prices, mentioned as "greedflation" at the time (and they gloated about record profits.) Their short term thinking (from only caring about quarterly revenue and profit) in part led to this disaster.
Initech
(107,861 posts)Fox News fuels outrage where it doesn't need to be, and they target people who don't bother to read the actual news articles beyond the basic headlines. So they amplify shit when necessary. Which is how they amplified the talking point that liberals "burned down cities" during the George Floyd riots, when really, the actual protest area in Portland was a mere 2 blocks.
It's all perception vs reality, and people choose the perception every time.
DSandra
(1,712 posts)They have abused free speech to brainwash people into believing in an entire alternate universe where down is up and up is down, and where liberals are evil commies led by George Soros seeking to replace them with criminal minorities.
ToxMarz
(2,786 posts)We haven't as a nation moved past, and I think it was enough of an albatross to deliver his win. He still didn't win by much, but enough.
Gaugamela
(3,346 posts)an informed and rational choice when voting. Half of Americans read at a fifth grade level or below, and anyway I would bet that two-thirds of Americans dont follow politics at all. They dont even watch Fox News. Their choices are determined by their peers whatever nonsense they pick up in the inane chatter. It is human nature to adhere to the social consensus around us. There is safety in the tribe. The right-wing echo chamber figured this out decades ago and use it to their advantage.
J_William_Ryan
(3,392 posts)And until the next Republican president worse than Trump.
Initech
(107,861 posts)But republicans own the media and they get to control the narrative, so we're stuck with the fucking asshole for now.
Boycott all mass media, it's poison.
In It to Win It
(12,485 posts)This second term feels a lot different than the first term. He is a lot more emboldened this time than his last time.
I think what makes the second time worse is that it will take even longer to rebuild what is gone. After the first term, there was a feeling that restoration was possible. I no longer believe that restoration is possible this time. There is no going back after Trump's time in office. How people view the presidency and its power will change after Trump's time.
Wounded Bear
(63,948 posts)Doctor: Well, stop doing it.
There's a streak of masochism buried deep in the American psyche.
Faux pas
(16,212 posts)He/they/it stole the election.....REMEMBER?
yaesu
(9,106 posts)have done to the US.
maxrandb
(17,252 posts)Was letting the Confederate cockroach flip over when the Union had it on its back, under its boot.
If Reconstruction had been handled correctly, a bunch of those "Slave Power" states would just now, in 2026, be requesting readmission to the Union...and a lot would still be rejected!