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Robert Reich approved toon: (Original Post) applegrove 22 hrs ago OP
Even though I'm a substitute teacher I still pay my union dues and sign the petitions. kimbutgar 22 hrs ago #1
Unions and their members built this country. Those opposed fought to tear it down so here we are. Deuxcents 22 hrs ago #2
And popsdenver 2 hrs ago #12
Even though markodochartaigh 22 hrs ago #3
The Republicans popsdenver 2 hrs ago #13
K&R LetMyPeopleVote 22 hrs ago #4
Been retired for 23 years with great health insurance. multigraincracker 21 hrs ago #5
My father was a union worker... appmanga 19 hrs ago #9
During my 25 years at Intel Arizona... AZ8theist 1 hr ago #16
I'd be willing to bet soldierant 21 hrs ago #6
Oh yes. He's the best. applegrove 21 hrs ago #7
Always a good reminder. calimary 20 hrs ago #8
AFL-CIO here .. Bo Zarts 5 hrs ago #10
Hey ALPA retired.......... popsdenver 2 hrs ago #14
I certainly remember the 727 landing on the taxiway at DEN with Lorenzo on board .. Bo Zarts 1 hr ago #15
Lorenzo was the original popsdenver 30 min ago #18
YES! C.f. Mike Gecan as recorded by Studs Terkel: snot 3 hrs ago #11
If "Rugged Indivdualism" is your thing,... BurnDoubt 1 hr ago #17

kimbutgar

(26,714 posts)
1. Even though I'm a substitute teacher I still pay my union dues and sign the petitions.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 05:57 PM
22 hrs ago

My husband was in a union for 36 years for a major airline carrier. And he retired with a nice nest egg in IRA funds and benefits.

Deuxcents

(25,376 posts)
2. Unions and their members built this country. Those opposed fought to tear it down so here we are.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:21 PM
22 hrs ago

popsdenver

(1,448 posts)
12. And
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 01:39 PM
2 hrs ago

the have succeeded in tearing away at Union membership starting with Reagan's shot heard across the nation, when he took out the Air Traffic Controllers Union........

And they are currently working on one of the largest unions in our country......the United States Postal Service's Union......
along with any and all Federal Employee's Union(s)

markodochartaigh

(4,919 posts)
3. Even though
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:29 PM
22 hrs ago

I was a registered nurse in Texas where unions for nurses were practically nonexistent, we still benefited from unions. The hospitals had to raise our wages to keep nurses from leaving for the coasts and Chicago. Thank you, Union Members!

popsdenver

(1,448 posts)
13. The Republicans
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 01:45 PM
2 hrs ago

used the "Right To Work" laws to alert the members to the fact that they didn't have to belong to the Union, and could become non-union, and collect the same benefits as the Union members, and pocket the union dues instead of contributing to the Union at their place of employment.......
The Repubs during the 80's and early 90's emasculated the NLRB, clearing the way to their destruction of the Union Membership.....

appmanga

(1,378 posts)
9. My father was a union worker...
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 09:00 PM
19 hrs ago

...who retired at 50 in 1985, has fantastic healthcare benefits in addition to Medicare, and has a pension with a cost-of-living adjustment.

Any working-class/middle-class person who's anti-union is an idiot.

AZ8theist

(7,063 posts)
16. During my 25 years at Intel Arizona...
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 03:18 PM
1 hr ago

Came across a LOT of union contractors during various build phases of the project.
But the last 10 years saw more than a few with Trump stickers on their hard hats.

Talk about idiots.....

popsdenver

(1,448 posts)
14. Hey ALPA retired..........
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 01:57 PM
2 hrs ago

I distinctly recall that when the pilots went out on strike at Continental Airlines that the Mechanics Union and Flight attendants Union, in solidarity went out with the Pilots. Then the Mechanics Union at Continental went out on strike, and the Pilots and Flight attendants Unions went out with them!
THEN, the Flight attendants went out on strike against Continental (and CEO Lorenzo?) and the Pilots Union, and the Mechanics Union failed to honor The Flight Attendant's Strike........

I also recall during those turbulent times at Continental, that the pilot of Lorenzo's corporate 727? landed him and his corporate jet ON A FRIKKIN' TAXIWAY at Stapleton and nothing has ever done to the pilot.....I have landed at the ol' Stapleton, and there is NO ONE that could mistake the massive 26 Left and 26 Right CONCRETE runways for a tiny asphalt taxi way......

Bo Zarts

(26,254 posts)
15. I certainly remember the 727 landing on the taxiway at DEN with Lorenzo on board ..
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 03:11 PM
1 hr ago

The 1983 pilot strike against CAL was a couple of years before my hire date at an ALPA carrier. However, when the strike happened, I was flying corporate jets out of IAH (Houston Intercontinental Airport). Living and working in Houston, I knew a lot of the striking CAL pilots. But I can't remember the timelines with respect to the other labor groups and their subsequent work actions against CAL.

However, I do remember some idiocracy on the part of a (very) few CAL ALPA pilots. They built pipe bombs with the idea of assassinating Frank Lorenzo, and the plot was intercepted by the FBI. They went to prison.

Lorenzo (TI, CAL, EAL, Peoples Xpress, NYAir, etc) was an industry pariah and, along with Steven Wolf (AA, CAL, NWA, USAirways, and maybe others) and Robert Crandall (AA and father of the B-Scale), Lorenzo ruined the airline industry. I missed Lorenzo and Crandall, but I had the extreme displeasure of working under Steven Wolf (an arrogant, elitist prick).

popsdenver

(1,448 posts)
18. Lorenzo was the original
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 04:05 PM
30 min ago

Corporate Raiding Prick..........
None of the Pilots, Mechanics, ticket people or Flight attendants got paid their last three months of work that they had done.
Lorenzo was able to convince some Judge, that HE should be able to keep all that Continental corporate had contributed to their employees retirement funds.......Having won that, THEN he tried to keep all the money that the employees had contributed to their retirement funds, and FINALLY that judge said enough is enough....NO

I knew a number of CAL employees, and his actions threw all of them into bankruptcy......I am sure that happened with most of the CAL employees...

AND, like the PATCO people, Reagan looked the other way.......

Of course, we have to quit calling it the Reagan Administration.....He was merely a puppet or pawn of the person who was truly running the Party for twelve years.....HWBUSH...........

Soon to be repeated with Cheney/Rumsfeld truly running the drug/alcohol brain addled WBush administration.

And then the Republican CABAL that were running the Trump first term, and the Republican 2025 group that is running Trump's second term........

snot

(11,447 posts)
11. YES! C.f. Mike Gecan as recorded by Studs Terkel:
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 01:35 PM
3 hrs ago

"There’s always a tendency to look for the most charismatic person, because that, in a way, solves your leadership problem – but only in the short term…. You can’t counter institutional power with good intentions, or charisma alone…. You have to build your own institutional power."

(Emphasis supplied.) From Terkel's book, Hope Dies Last (The New Press, 2003).

BurnDoubt

(1,387 posts)
17. If "Rugged Indivdualism" is your thing,...
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 03:22 PM
1 hr ago

Then you fight alone.
Did you ever notice that organized and regulated groups called Armies are the go-to when nations have to defend themselves.
If you can't get-along... go alone.
"Hang together or hang alone."

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