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orangecrush

(27,679 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:14 PM Friday

"DON'T GIVE UP THE SHIP"

The quote is from an ensign flown by Commander Oliver Perry, whose fleet was based in my town of Erie, Pa., during the war of 1812.

"The "Don't Give Up the Ship" flag originated from the dying words of Captain James Lawrence during a losing battle in the War of 1812. His friend, Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, adopted the phrase and had the blue battle ensign made, flying it on his flagship during the Battle of Lake Erie in 1813. Perry's victory at Lake Erie popularized the flag as a symbol of American naval resilience, and the original flag is now displayed at the U.S. Naval Academy Museum."






Don’t give up the ship.

Just Jack (@just-jack-1.bsky.social) 2025-11-19T11:55:44.156Z











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"DON'T GIVE UP THE SHIP" (Original Post) orangecrush Friday OP
Then why are they in that rowboat? Omnipresent Friday #1
Perry had his ship blown to pieces orangecrush Friday #3
It's a good thing he had that flag made up before getting into the rowboat! Omnipresent Friday #7
Here orangecrush Friday #10
OK, because of YOU orangecrush Friday #11
Don't give up the rowboat doesn't have the same ring to it. Sneederbunk Friday #4
... orangecrush Friday #6
Saw the original ITAL Friday #2
I visit the Niagra orangecrush Friday #5
I beg to differ. bluescribbler Friday #8
Thank you! wolfie001 Friday #9
I've seen the Niagra sailing more times than I can count orangecrush Friday #13
Oh yes! Truly a miraculous and brave performance by our fleet that day wolfie001 Friday #15
Cheers! orangecrush Friday #16
OP corrected to reflect this orangecrush Friday #12
Like ananda Friday #14
Thank you orangecrush Friday #17
It's also a saying the Democratic Party could take to heart. pat_k Friday #18

orangecrush

(27,679 posts)
3. Perry had his ship blown to pieces
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:25 PM
Friday

Transferred to the USS Niagra to win the battle of Put In Bay.

He fought until his ship was sinking rather than surrender.

The slogan has been adopted by the 10 Democrats Trump said should be executed.

orangecrush

(27,679 posts)
10. Here
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:33 PM
Friday


The "Don't Give Up the Ship" flag originated from the dying words of Captain James Lawrence during a losing battle in the War of 1812. His friend, Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, adopted the phrase and had the blue battle ensign made, flying it on his flagship during the Battle of Lake Erie in 1813. Perry's victory at Lake Erie popularized the flag as a symbol of American naval resilience, and the original flag is now displayed at the U.S. Naval Academy Museum.

orangecrush

(27,679 posts)
11. OK, because of YOU
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:36 PM
Friday

I had to edit the op!





The quote was from a dying officer in the war of 1812, not from Perry.

Perry had a flag made with the quote on it.



Geez!

bluescribbler

(2,456 posts)
8. I beg to differ.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:05 PM
Friday

James Lawrence was the naval officer who gave that command as he was carried dying below decks. Commodore adopted the quote for his battle flag in tribute to his friend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lawrence

wolfie001

(6,603 posts)
9. Thank you!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:08 PM
Friday

I was about to post but decided to read the comments. Perry used the quote. The original ship was in fact surrendered. I think enough time has past that we can have a hearty laugh about this. So much mythology and truth-stretching from back then.

orangecrush

(27,679 posts)
13. I've seen the Niagra sailing more times than I can count
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:39 PM
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And slipped up on the history.

Thanks for setting the record straight.

wolfie001

(6,603 posts)
15. Oh yes! Truly a miraculous and brave performance by our fleet that day
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:42 PM
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On Lake Erie! I have the commemorative postage stamp somewhere. Cheers

pat_k

(12,560 posts)
18. It's also a saying the Democratic Party could take to heart.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 07:42 PM
Friday

When principle demands action, win or lose, come hell or high water, you act.

You don't give up the ship. You battle it out with everything you've got to the end, even if that end is a loss.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220817944

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