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https://www.newsweek.com/social-security-update-medicare-medicaid-warning-donald-trump-10915076President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.
Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, "It means death."
"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you're not going to have any kind of medical insurance."
Why It Matters
A point of contention leading to the government shutdown is the Democrats' refusal to accept a funding bill that would cut health care provisions, which many Republicans argue fund medical care for illegal aliens.
Social Security and Medicare represent vital support for tens of millions of Americans, especially retirees, seniors, and individuals with disabilities. As of late 2024, Social Security provided monthly benefits to about 53 million Americansnearly 16 percent of the U.S. population. Medicare and Medicaid similarly underpin health insurance availability for seniors, low-income people, and many vulnerable groups.
Any potential reduction or administrative change to these programs has far-reaching implications for millions who rely on them for basic income or health care needs.
bucolic_frolic
(53,021 posts)mvd
(65,761 posts)He wants them to be gone..
ancianita
(42,434 posts)It's in Project 2025, which overall wants to financially take over the government run side of Medicare & Social Security, and turn those trillions over to corporate entities.
Social Security's combined Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) and Disability Insurance (DI) trust funds had approximately $2.7 trillion in assets at the end of 2024.
So once again they're robbing American taxpayers.
yellow dahlia
(3,743 posts)Is what he wants.
returnee
(714 posts)the root of the word executive is the same as the word executioner. He immediately thought thats a job I want.
AZJonnie
(2,017 posts)Jesus. Can't believe Newsweek put out something so freaking obviously AI.
EDIT: I should've read the whole article before I popped off instead of forming my opinion based only on the OP section presented. The beginning is very AI-looking, but as a whole the article is probably not.
choie
(6,262 posts)littlemissmartypants
(30,721 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(59,938 posts)What is obvious to you is not evident at all to me -- I'm not getting you.
Explain specifics to me like I'm an intelligent 16 year old. Did they use an em-dash?
AZJonnie
(2,017 posts)And I know this is exactly how it 'talks'? It loves to throw in section headings like "Why It Matters", like I've seen AI create a section header using literally those exact 3 words, literally dozens of times, in response to my prompts.
I would give you 5-1 odds that nearly all (if not in fact all), of this was generated via a 4-6 sentence prompt given to AI instructing it to create an article about Trump comments.
So, maybe I misspoke when I said it's 'obvious'. I should have said it's obvious to me because I've used it a lot
Also when I say AI slop I don't mean it in the sense that it's inherently inaccurate, that is a separate matter.
ON EDIT, so I decided to fact-check myself using AI, and I probably should have read the whole thing instead of just the OP before I popped off:
About the article as a whole, from Claude AI
The article does exhibit several features common to AI-generated journalism (modular sections, rapid-fire facts, punchy quotes, some repetition). However, it is not a clear example of an article stitched together entirely from a short AI prompt. More likely, it uses newsroom content templates, SEO optimization, and perhaps some AI assistance for formulaic sections or headline drafting. Id rate it as likely human-edited, possibly with some AI-aided segment or structural guidance, but not purely prompt-generated. Several editorial touches and original reporting details are evident.
So, your instinct is goodnews content production increasingly mixes prompt, AI, and human workflow. But this ones probably in the middle, rather than being just a prompt with facts plugged in.
Me:
Claude:
It absolutely reads as if it could have been authored from a short prompt or template, possibly with AI involvedespecially if your friend saw only this portion. Without later details, deeper quotes, and broader context, an experienced eye would suspect AI prompt construction or at least heavy reliance on formulaic editorial tools. Your argument has a strong basis if limited to this segment. If you had the rest of the piece, it would become more ambiguous, but that **opening alone is much more AI-ish** in structure and tone.
Bernardo de La Paz
(59,938 posts)A summary is always going to look kinda "AI" because AIs are optimized to produce summaries.
AZJonnie
(2,017 posts)That opening section, like AI said, IS very AI. I really have seen "Why It Matters" over and over in AI responses.
But I shouldn't have shot my mouth off without reading the whole thing.
Thanks for your correction on this matter, good sir
Bernardo de La Paz
(59,938 posts)AZJonnie
(2,017 posts)I guess I wasn't familiar with the back story. Again, your point is well made
EYESORE 9001
(29,257 posts)I dont think you voted for this.
lastlib
(26,997 posts)...his time on this earth may be very short. People will be dragging his fat stinking carcass OUT of OUR HOUSE.
yaesu
(8,681 posts)lovin ass.
synni
(613 posts)He'll just write executive orders in crayon, and the Republicans won't do anything to stop him.
Whiskeytide
(4,612 posts)
legally stop SS or MC. I agree that he cant do it legally. But he can illegally direct those office to stop sending the checks and paying reimbursements. And he can fire any government employees who defy that direction until he finds a compliant Magat. Thats his administrations M/O. We are being governed by a tribe of trolls.
I dont really think hell do this because of the pushback hed receive. But we have to stop thinking rules and laws and norms will restrain his agenda.
BigMin28
(1,791 posts)those earned benefits don't arrive, that is when there will be blood in the streets. The ripple effect would be catastrophic. No one would be left untouched.
leftstreet
(37,846 posts)This whining and crying coming from the GOP about how the DeMocRatS have them by the short hairs is going to backfire.
Aristus
(71,212 posts)The Trumpsters will never give up on Trump. To do so would meaning admitted they were wrong. And they are morally, ethically, and intellectually incapable of that.
MLWR
(644 posts)Attilatheblond
(7,646 posts)His puppet masters know if they keep pushing, eventually a certain portion of the population will respond with violence and that will be the magic door thru which the militarized forces for tyranny will come goose-stepping thru.
The idiots who never checked facts nor vetted their candidates are the fools most likely to kick off the final phase of democracy's downfall.
Silent Type
(11,716 posts)B.See
(7,205 posts)take A WRECKING BALL to both Social Security and Medicare ANYWAY....
But of course the loathsome fk would try to pin that on Democrats as well.
Farmer-Rick
(12,241 posts)Including Congress and pedo Trump himself. I know, I know, pedo Trump says he doesn't claim them. But can you imagine pedo Trump walking away while money is left on the table? Yeah, he gets Social Security benefits, not sure if he even needs Medicare. He just lies about receiving Social Security as do many Republicon politicians and eligible billionaires.
live love laugh
(16,026 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,826 posts)Attilatheblond
(7,646 posts)The reality that he has little time left on this earth is the one thing he works very hard to pretend won't happen. Gotta keep 'building' and a big die off of the pesky un-rich means more land to put his name on.
Farmer-Rick
(12,241 posts)But what about Wednesday and Thursday and...
Puppyjive
(875 posts)So social security is an entitlement that the average American needs. He needs to quit throwing that around. It will be political suicide. The majority of Americans were not born with a silver spoon in their mouths. Low minimum wage also prevents people from investing in retirement accounts. Trump is a lunatic.
Karma13612
(4,855 posts)As someone that made very little in income, every cent was subject to SS tax, and most of my employers put their donations to my retirement in the damn stock market.
After decades, I finally learned enuf to switch out of the roller coaster market into money market and CDs.
I will be destitute in no time if that mthrfckr touches my EARNED RETIREMENT BENEFIT. I darn well paid in and expect to continue to get my benefit IN FULL. And I pay $185/month for Medicare plus copays depending on the care received.
Ray Bruns
(5,750 posts)LymphocyteLover
(8,964 posts)Goddamn, time for him to go!
tinrobot
(11,844 posts)Seriously, this man is nothing but a hostage-taker.
You don't negotiate.
Trueblue Texan
(3,944 posts)Why don't we start talking about the REAL reason why the government is shut down and lets not shut up about it?
EPSTEIN! EPSTEIN! EPSTEIN!
pecosbob
(8,169 posts)maxsolomon
(37,724 posts)Sure he did.
Slippery slope word salad lies.
thucythucy
(9,001 posts)What BS.
Here's how it should read: "...which Republicans repeatedly and shamelessly lie about, falsely claiming the bill would fund health care for undocumented aliens, when it does no such thing."
KS Toronado
(21,783 posts)I'm betting it says to kill Social Security, Medicare, & Medicaid as we know them.
This was always a wet dream of the Koch brothers.
SSJVegeta
(1,869 posts)What does he need democrats for?
Orrex
(66,308 posts)Like seriously, whats the holdup?
Ilsa
(63,556 posts)VTderry
(58 posts)billions from the tariffs??
Maybe someone needs to check the "shelf"???
bob4460
(366 posts)He knows he is done in the political Arena so he's going to make everybody else go through as much pain as possible. And if Congress can't stop him nobody can.
C_U_L8R
(48,393 posts)Proceed with robbing the retirements of 62 million Americans. There could be atomic torches and pitchforks shoved up his ass.
Hekate
(100,021 posts)bronxiteforever
(10,883 posts)as he threatens to cut off their Social Security and Medicare. Seniors begin to pull savings out of banks and the stock market to obtain cash to meet bills.Stock Market may tank.
Our party needs to fire remarks that reference a GOP market crash just like Trump did to Biden and Harris and Obama.
Does anyone trust Thune and Johnson to defend SS or Medicare? They are intentionally starving children and families at Thanksgiving? SS and Medicare seem vulnerable and the Supremes under Roberts will sit on their entitled asses until the whole system blows up.
sinkingfeeling
(56,698 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(89 posts)Trump thinks that Medicaid and SNAP are all African Americans and "illegals". There are so many white MAGAs in the southern and western United States who rely on these programs and "illegals" don't get these benefits. His base is going to be screwed. No SS income and No SNAP and no Medicaid or Medicare means their hospitals, pharmacies, and WalMarts are going to close. Even people in those areas with jobs and insurance are going to be without medical care and grocery stores.
Martin68
(26,582 posts)the legislation enabling reduction of SNAP benefits and Medicare and Medicaid subsidies was a originally designed to kick in after the mid-terms to give the GOP a last chance to solidify their majority. But Trump is not sticking to the game plan because he can't help himself. He's drunk with power and sadistic fantasies.
New Breed Leader
(888 posts)Martin68
(26,582 posts)elleng
(141,341 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(130,358 posts)Moses Johnson the other day tried to blame New York mayoral candidate Mamdani for Congress being shut down.
aggiesal
(10,458 posts)wolfie001
(6,375 posts)That's all I got.
Evolve Dammit
(21,319 posts)BigmanPigman
(54,238 posts)red dog 1
(32,056 posts)(If the evil bastard doesn't start WW3 by then)
valleyrogue
(2,419 posts)misanthrope
(9,263 posts)They've wanted this since it was established.
ReRe
(12,148 posts)They want to destroy America as we know it, re wipe out the old folks, middle & lower middle class, the working poor and the actual poor & the homeless and all their children, you know, all of us "little people", What is their end vision? How do they think life's going to be without all of us? WTF do they want? Can anyone explain that to me?