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Cops say Portland protests got worse after the arrival of federal agents.Federal officers are alleged to have opened fire with pepper balls on a crowd of protesters and cops after their own bungling colleagues accidentally teargassed them.
Portland police commander Franz Schoening testified in court that protests outside the South Portland ICE headquarters had been mild in Septemberbut swelled after Donald Trump announced National Guard troops were headed to the city.
He said violence directed at federal officers remained limited, while agents sometimes used excessive force, including the Oct. 18 incident during a No Kings protest when ICE officers accidentally fired a canister that bounced onto the roof of the facility, hitting their own colleagues.
This then led to the armed officers on the roof shooting back into the driveway, striking local police and protesters with pepper balls and tear gas of their own, according to Schoening, Reuters reported.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-thugs-shot-at-national-guard-protesters-in-portland-after-being-tear-gassed-by-bungling-colleagues/
Irish_Dem
(77,043 posts)PatSeg
(51,358 posts)If they haven't already. We still don't know what goes on inside their detention centers.
They have been hyped up either by trainers or other agents, and many are just a hair away from actually murdering innocent people. You can see that many would like to.
DFW
(59,251 posts)Some day soon after that, they could face some of those well-regulated militias the Second Amendment mentions, ones that used to spring up starting around 1776 to protect the people from a hostile foreign occupying power.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)All those who wanted a gun culture need to realize that they could be on the receiving end of the violence.
DFW
(59,251 posts)If they had held their fire, we might today have been southern Canada.
The consequences of letting these guys loose have been known to cause a few more ripples in the pond than were originally thought conceivable.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)The Germans apparently had problems with their violent brownshirts as well. It was hard keeping them under control as they became drunk with power. They served a purpose, but often went above and beyond what was required of them.
DFW
(59,251 posts)They thought nothing could touch them, and the National Socialists would be eternally in their debt for their cruel intimidations. That ended with the Night of the Long Knives, when their brown shirts ran red. Their arrogant oafish brutality was out of date. It had outlived its usefulness to the National Socialist Party, and the more loyal and better organized Secret State Police (Geheime Staatspolizei, or Gestapo for short) became a far more efficient state weapon. They gave the Party (Nationalsozialisten, or Nazis for short) the breathing room it needed for its domestic and foreign mayhem. It is frightening how many condemned prisoners after the Nürnberg trials unapologetically said, prior to being hanged, that it was still worth it. Well hear the same reactions from Republicans when the Trump nightmare regime is over, and not even one of them will face the gallows, though some probably deserve it.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)from what I've read. Disorganized, impulsive, and violent. I hadn't thought of the "drunk" part, but clearly that would fit the scenario as well.
When I watched the attacks on the Capitol on 1/6, it immediately brought to mind Hitler's lowlife brownshirts. They also remind me of a classic lynch mob.
DFW
(59,251 posts)They might have become a lynch mob for real.
There's not much of anything more terrifying than a mindless, bloodthirsty lynch mob. Now they have uniforms and badges.
Irish_Dem
(77,043 posts)There is no accountability, they don't seem to keep track of people.
They simply disappear.
When there is no sunlight on bad situations, it usually gets worse and worse.
Yes ICE agents are itching for confrontations and fights.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)They are in the position to get away with a whole lock of fuckery with no accountability.
Irish_Dem
(77,043 posts)What do they do when no one is watching.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)barbtries
(30,921 posts)make the Keystone Kops look professional.
many of them, I am convinced, are eagerly looking forward to the day they can change out the rubber bullets for the real. They want to kill people.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)that ICE looks for when hiring. They want all these trigger-happy Rambo wannabes.
i was just idly wondering yesterday if they do personality tests on applicants so they can select for psychopaths.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)These guys are far too aggressive and violent for it not to be orchestrated somehow. I'm quite sure there is a personality type they are looking for and it's not 'works well with others' and 'able to compromise'.
Irish_Dem
(77,043 posts)Perfect ICE agent.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)resumes must look like.
Irish_Dem
(77,043 posts)What they must ask prospective applicants.
And tell them.
PatSeg
(51,358 posts)Certainly not like an interview for a Target job.
Irish_Dem
(77,043 posts)IronLionZion
(50,221 posts)Google claims no US citizens yet. But it's likely to happen eventually.
Irish_Dem
(77,043 posts)And families could be threatened into silence.
MagickMuffin
(17,976 posts)It was NO ACCIDENT, the icehole agent fired the tear gas canister that was meant for the protesters. Instead the canister bounced back on them. So, of course the natural progression is to attack the protesters. Karma played her part.