The Trump Administration is Testing its Admirals and Generals

[Coldwater]

to see who is willing to kill innocent civilians when the time comes.

Admiral Holsey a man of conscience chose to retire rather than follow an illegal order. This way the administration can weed out the good and keep the sociopaths.

[Irish_Dem]

1. Their oath is to the US constitution and American people. NOT TRUMP.

[jaymac]

2. yeah, but

we all saw this coming.......

[GiqueCee]

3. Trump demands...

... absolute, unquestioning loyalty to himself, but gives loyalty to no one but himself. Malignant narcissist is too bland a term to describe what an absolute piece of shit he is. And the fact that there are still those who support him says nothing good about their judgement or their character.

[Irish_Dem]

4. He is a narcissistic psychopath. Very dangerous man.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

6. Hardly a man

And that fact is why he constantly acts out to prove how tough he is, when anyone with half a brain knows he’s a coward and a fraud.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Yes he is a man baby. Stuck in the toddler stage of development.

[GiqueCee]

7. Add a little bit...

... of dementia to the rancid stew that is his mind, and we're looking at a potential cataclysm of horrifying proportions. He's even used the "N" word (nuclear) in some of his unhinged and barely intelligible rants. Shit's gonna get real if he isn't brought under control. Sadly, the Roberts Court is just a useless rubber stamp for even his most blatantly illegal schemes.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Trump is a serious national security risk.

[Wounded Bear]

19. The US Army has a history of fighting a war with "political" generals...

In the Civil War, most of the regiments were formed in the states, a forerunner of sorts to our National Guard system, and most of the Colonels of those units were appointed by the Governors. As you can imagine, the quality of leadership was sketchy, to be sure.

To compound the problem, especially in the Army of the Potomac, political influences were rampant. Officers were in constant contact with Congressmembers and Cabinet members. Much of R E Lee's success can be attributed to the incompetence of the Union officers of that army. Lincoln worked for nearly 3 years to find a General capable of winning the war. In the end he had to pull Grant from the Western theater to actually find success of a kind. Grant had little or no relationship with any of the Washington politicians.

Another more recent example, of course, is in the USSR of the 1930's. Stalin purged almost all of the flag/line officers in the Soviet army, either cashiered or outright shot and replaced them with loyalists. He also placed KGB "advisors" in all units above regimental level. The Soviet army was nearly overrun completely by the NAZIs in their invasion in 1941. In that campaign, some meddling by Hitler helped save the Soviets from complete disaster.

Politics and ass kissing the boss is a poor prescription for winning wars.

[Maru Kitteh]

24. Holy cow. Great post, very informative.

Thanks for taking the time to share all of that.

[Wounded Bear]

25. Been an amateur military historian for most of my life...

Bruce Catton's Mr Lincoln's Army is a great read about the struggles of that Union army in the Civil War.

For the WWII Eastern Front, if you can find it, Hitler Moves East by Paul Carell is a great read on the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941.

The two works I remember best on those two campaigns.

[Irish_Dem]

27. This is the whole point of building a professional fighting force.

It is apolitical, highly trained, and separate from politics.
They are loyal to the American people, the rule of law, and US constitution.

This strategy has given the US the strongest most successful military
in the world.

[yellow dahlia]

22. Republicans in Congress...if you're listening.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

5. But when the shit hits the fan

Cadet Bonespurs and his DUI hire won’t have any competent or honorable leaders left on their side. And those competent and honorable leaders will still command the respect of their former troops. The result won’t be pretty, but it won’t be the result that the Nazis are hoping for.

[Wounded Bear]

20. Indeed. See my post #19 above...nt

[sarchasm]

8. that's ok, we need Generals too.

...too soon?

not too soon to consider IMO. ... and what do we do with all the traitors to our constitution, Dominionists, TrumpCo., Thiel, et, al, that have used our system to amass huge fortunes, and now want to turn that system against us?

[rampartd]

13. at least 8 years late

the proud noys were founded at charlottesville from existing whack; job "militias."

they have been recruiting and training under general flynn ever since.

if we have anything remotely similar (antifa? give me a break. my spell check knows that is not true .) i would love to join them.

[IronLionZion]

9. They are promoting MAGA loyalists who will do their killing without hesitation

[angryxyouth]

10. By quitting, they break their oath

Their oath: “I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…” They can’t defend the Constitution if they give up the tools and power that they have to do so. Admiral Holsey surrendered to a domestic enemy.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

11. Admiral Holseyretired before he would have been fired from his position.

Either way, he would have been out.

[angryxyouth]

17. That's true

I believe if he would’ve gone down fighting, it made a lot of noise and news. It would’ve had more of an impact. The service members below him may have rallied behind him. Not to mention other high ranking members of the Armed Forces.

[Wounded Bear]

26. When the choice is between violating your oath and resigning, it becomes a point of honor...nt

[CaptainTruth]

14. We should form an organization & recruit people like Alvin to join.

Call it "Freedom Defenders" or something like that. Get as many high-profile influential people involved as possible.

Position the org at the forefront of the pro-Democracy, pro-Constiution, pro-justice movement. Build an organization that has the human resources to work to rebuild our country in a variety of ways including civil rights, economic, justice etc. It should be activist & make itself visible to the public, not just working quietly & obscurely.

There are many orgs that work on various aspects of the things I'm referring to but I'm thinking of an org could be at the forefront & provide visible & active leadership, as well as coordination of activities with other orgs.

Does such an organization exist?

[yellow dahlia]

23. Miles Taylor is doing something similar with Defiance.org.

[CaptainTruth]

29. Thanks! I'll check it out.

[yellow dahlia]

30. My belief is there is no such thing as TOO much organizing.

Everywhere...everywhere...all at once.

[Botany]

15. Trump wants to war using the largest military in history against the people of Venezuela and their form

… of ANTIFA aka Tren de Aragua

Mr. Trump has also floated the possibility of strikes on land-based targets, saying last week, "The land is going to be next."

[AverageOldGuy]

28. The Venezuelan military . . .

. . . is small but is not led by morons.

When we invade, expect the following to happen.

1. Venezuela will move their Air Force and as much of their Navy as possible to a friendly country -- Colombia, Brazil, . . .

2. Their soldiers and Marines will ditch their uniforms and take to the jungle that comprises about 65% of the country.

3. A small stay-behind force will defend the capitol until they are overwhelmed by US forces.

4. And then will begin an endless war in the shadows as US forces try to destroy the Venezuelan army and Marines that operate with a friendly population, supplied through a shadowy network from China and North Korea through other South American countries . . . similar to Vietnam and Afghanistan.

5. Then the body bags will start coming home to Dover Air Force Base and the military funerals hit small-town America . . .

We have been down this road before.

[Buddyzbuddy]

18. Witness for the prosecution! At the ICC.

[red dog 1]

21. Shitler and his Joseph Goebbels "advisor" Stephen Miller, don't want any Admirals or Generals

who might have a "conscience."

They want ruthless, arrogant, evil, fascist, ass-kisers who are willing to do anything President Bone Spurs tells them to do, even if it means killing thousands of innocent people in the process.