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canetoad

(19,321 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:42 AM Jul 18

About that birthday letter to Epstein

It isn’t clear how the letter with Trump’s signature was prepared. Inside the outline of the naked woman was a typewritten note styled as an imaginary conversation between Trump and Epstein, written in the third person.

“Voice Over: There must be more to life than having everything,” the note began.
Donald: Yes, there is, but I won’t tell you what it is.
Jeffrey: Nor will I, since I also know what it is.
Donald: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey: Yes, we do, come to think of it.
Donald: Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?
Jeffrey: As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
Trump: A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.


From: https://archive.md/5VJ1L


I assume Ghislaine Maxwell wrote this and trump just signed it. This really seems like a future blackmail or compomising letter that could be used to hold something over trump. Just look at the language; it's going out of its way to link trump and Epstein in some 'secret' activity.

So did Maxwell instigate this herself or did Epstein put her up to it so that he had something to hold over trump? Maxwell was a lot more smitten with Epstein than he with her and it's proven that she would do practically anything for him. She had a peculiarly dependent relationship with her father and the Maxwell family had lost much of their wealth in the pension scheme.

Of course, she could have needed a little insurance against both Epstein and trump, but I suspect that Jeffrey put her up to it - make sure trump was incriminated, after all he is too thick and arrogant to read what she'd witten and understand it.

Lots of questions but I'll back it in that the birthday letter was deliberately incriminating.
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About that birthday letter to Epstein (Original Post) canetoad Jul 18 OP
Until I see the actual "paper" I guess I am having a hard time ALBliberal Jul 18 #1
As pointed out earlier dweller Jul 18 #2
Enema is more apt though nt intrepidity Jul 18 #4
That sounds plausible, although intrepidity Jul 18 #3
There is language used canetoad Jul 18 #5
Yeah I am warming to the Maxwell as author theory intrepidity Jul 18 #8
Plausible blubunyip Jul 18 #11
Agreed. Trump did not write that. yardwork Jul 18 #12
I'm sure Cohen will have an insightful opinion on it but keep Wiz Imp Jul 18 #6
Ah didn't look it up intrepidity Jul 18 #7
So Cohen says that he never once heard Trump talk about intrepidity Jul 18 #9
The so-called "falling out," between the 2 supposedly Wiz Imp Jul 18 #10
Look at how quickly Trump dropped Musk. yardwork Jul 18 #13

ALBliberal

(3,065 posts)
1. Until I see the actual "paper" I guess I am having a hard time
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:50 AM
Jul 18

Imagining this letter. The voice over stuff. Oh I know Trump was all in on his friend Jeff… but for me this comes off as confusing.

intrepidity

(8,375 posts)
3. That sounds plausible, although
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:56 AM
Jul 18

in 2003 he would have had ample time to do it himself, or with the help of say (what's-her-name, long time secretary?)

Will be interesting to hear Michael Cohen's take.

canetoad

(19,321 posts)
5. There is language used
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 01:08 AM
Jul 18

In the letter that neither trump nor Epstein would use.

"Nor will I" - Well spoken Brit

"A pal" - Brit term, not mate or buddy

Use of colons and commas - someone who's been taught good english.

intrepidity

(8,375 posts)
8. Yeah I am warming to the Maxwell as author theory
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 01:18 AM
Jul 18

In years past, I did deep dives into the whole Epstein story, and I seem to have a faint memory of something about this book.

blubunyip

(243 posts)
11. Plausible
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 07:21 AM
Jul 18

Also the use of playwriting dialogue is somewhat distanced yet intimate, like a close third party observer/confidant wrote it.

Wiz Imp

(6,254 posts)
6. I'm sure Cohen will have an insightful opinion on it but keep
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 01:09 AM
Jul 18

In mind he didn't technically start working for Trump until 2006.

intrepidity

(8,375 posts)
9. So Cohen says that he never once heard Trump talk about
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:45 AM
Jul 18

Epstein; that for as long as he was there, Epstein never called, never visited the office, nada. According to Cohen's observation, Epstein did not exist (obvs not literally, but as far as MC was concerned.)

So, hmmm.

Wiz Imp

(6,254 posts)
10. The so-called "falling out," between the 2 supposedly
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:49 AM
Jul 18

Happened in 2004 so Cohen's comments would be consistent with the idea that they ceased all contact with each other after the falling out.

yardwork

(67,342 posts)
13. Look at how quickly Trump dropped Musk.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 07:31 AM
Jul 18

When Trump is through with people he never gives them another thought. They no longer exist to him.

Think of Trump as an evil robot who only sees what is useful to him in the moment.

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