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WiVoter

(1,532 posts)
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:34 PM Jul 2025

If Maxwell Is Willing To Testify, Can She Be Trusted?

I’ve read that Trump said he wouldn’t pardon her, but we all know that is bullshit. My guess is that if she does testify, she will say he’s not in it and will get her pardon. The other option is if she testifies says Trump is on the list, and her life will be in danger. Where do you think this will go?

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If Maxwell Is Willing To Testify, Can She Be Trusted? (Original Post) WiVoter Jul 2025 OP
A person who traffics minor children to the rich cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #1
Doesn't matter if she is viewed as being credible newdeal2 Jul 2025 #6
Knowing everything and telling everything are two different things tinrobot Jul 2025 #20
Yes she knows all the details. This is not the issue. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #21
I agree WiVoter Jul 2025 #15
I believe, absolutely not, the false story and documents are being drafted as we speak Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #2
What about Julie Brown? johnnyfins Jul 2025 #14
She will be called a liar by the maga idiots Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #16
🙄😖🤐 Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #28
Yup, The Ol Deny, Deflect & Destroy Trick WiVoter Jul 2025 #17
Exactly awesomerwb1 Jul 2025 #22
Always Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #25
Let me add a separate comment, we will know if it's the truth Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #3
Where is her little black book? MrWowWow Jul 2025 #4
Of course she isn't reliable. RockRaven Jul 2025 #5
First order of business when Democrats regain control of the House in '26: Epstein Hearings. sop Jul 2025 #7
Absolutely WiVoter Jul 2025 #18
What if Melania begins to talk Beachnutt Jul 2025 #8
No, but... Mike 03 Jul 2025 #9
"As long as she has anything to gain by lying, she cannot be trusted." TheProle Jul 2025 #13
Not happening. H2O Man Jul 2025 #10
She's a nasty piece of work and you might not want to trust her word, but Ocelot II Jul 2025 #11
He's not going to pardon her. Not with the way MAGA is reacting. Not gonna happen. tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #12
Not my circus. Not my monkeys. Torchlight Jul 2025 #19
Traitor already told the world he's on a fabricated list made up by Obama Arazi Jul 2025 #23
I think she'd see her only hope to survive is to protect Trump. blm Jul 2025 #24
Ah nope. a kennedy Jul 2025 #26
As a juror I would need to see what she said backed up by documents dsc Jul 2025 #27

newdeal2

(4,583 posts)
6. Doesn't matter if she is viewed as being credible
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:40 PM
Jul 2025

She is a monster but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t remember facts or dates. She knows everything that went on with Epstein.

tinrobot

(11,905 posts)
20. Knowing everything and telling everything are two different things
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:01 PM
Jul 2025

Which version of the "truth" will she tell?

The one that gets her sent back to prison or the one that gets her a pardon?

Irish_Dem

(78,557 posts)
21. Yes she knows all the details. This is not the issue.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:09 PM
Jul 2025

The issue is whether she will cough them up in an accurate and honest way.

WiVoter

(1,532 posts)
15. I agree
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:51 PM
Jul 2025

I had a RW acquaintance, with a goddamn Newsmax story that said she was willing to testify and said that Trump wasn’t on the list. I’ve countered him on that bullshit. Think I’m gonna block him at long last.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
2. I believe, absolutely not, the false story and documents are being drafted as we speak
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:37 PM
Jul 2025

That will claim the piece of shit was never anywhere to be found around this, but Bill Clinton was other and famous Democrats or progressive, etc.

Not a fucking word of it will be true, but since the piece of shit and his pieces of shit control everything and I mean everything including the Department of Justice, the FBI oh my God fucking everything they will do anything they want and we will just have to fucking Put up with it or…..😡😡😡😡

johnnyfins

(3,322 posts)
14. What about Julie Brown?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:51 PM
Jul 2025

The Miami Herald reporter who looked at the case files extensively. She will recognize forged docs in a second.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
16. She will be called a liar by the maga idiots
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:53 PM
Jul 2025

And the courts will be used to destroy her since they are controlled by a fascist dictator.

She would probably be arrested immediately by the FBI.

WiVoter

(1,532 posts)
17. Yup, The Ol Deny, Deflect & Destroy Trick
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:53 PM
Jul 2025

Which is sadly effective. Maybe someone should try that on him.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
3. Let me add a separate comment, we will know if it's the truth
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:38 PM
Jul 2025

If she identifies piece of shit as being the one with Epstein, doing these things, any other comment from her will be an outright fucking lie.

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
4. Where is her little black book?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:38 PM
Jul 2025

Compare its contents with whatever other lists that exists. By now though, whatever 💩 got his hands on has either been altered or destroyed.

RockRaven

(18,529 posts)
5. Of course she isn't reliable.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:39 PM
Jul 2025

Recall that a story leaked that The Dotard had had discussions about whether or not to pardon her, during which he was worried what she could say about him, but was convinced not to.

THEN the story comes that she is willing to testify. That order of events matters.

That first leak wasn't necessarily an embarrassing exposure of something The Dotard wanted secret. Perhaps it was planted by his people as a trial balloon, as a hint to Maxwell for what the conditions of getting a pardon would be -- namely silence about The Dotard.

sop

(17,084 posts)
7. First order of business when Democrats regain control of the House in '26: Epstein Hearings.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:44 PM
Jul 2025

Let the chips fall where they may.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
9. No, but...
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:45 PM
Jul 2025

As long as she has anything to gain by lying, she cannot be trusted. But one good thing is that Elon Musk seems to know what is actually in the files, and she knows that he knows--possibly would make her slightly less likely to lie. And this hinges on whether or not Musk actually knows the contents of the file, or whether he is bluffing. My gut feeling is Musk is familiar with the damaging information in the files and probably has that material (copies, of course), but does he know the minute details?

TheProle

(3,847 posts)
13. "As long as she has anything to gain by lying, she cannot be trusted."
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:48 PM
Jul 2025

This is the crux of the matter, as it almost always is with testimony of the incarcerated.

H2O Man

(78,382 posts)
10. Not happening.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jul 2025

She is appealing her conviction. She needs to show that her constitutional rights were violated, that there was misconduct on the prosecutor's part, or that the is startling new evidence proving her to be innocent. Zero chance there.

Who and why would she be called to testify against? The felon & maga administration sought to tie the Democratic Party to Epstein by releasing selective files they were convinced existed. But they don't. Surprise, surprise! Epstein is not a dead chicken that a farmer could hang around the party's neck. So who would she testify against?

Ocelot II

(128,562 posts)
11. She's a nasty piece of work and you might not want to trust her word, but
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jul 2025

does she have evidence to back up what she says? I have no doubt that if she does have hard evidence, she also has a dead-man's switch in place - that is, any such evidence is in the custody of a third person who has been told to provide it to the media if anything happens to her - and that Trump and his minions know the dead-man's switch exists. If she's been promised a pardon or a commutation, she can leave the country to avoid being prosecuted for perjury, and she'll also be safe if she decides to spill the real beans later.

tulipsandroses

(8,095 posts)
12. He's not going to pardon her. Not with the way MAGA is reacting. Not gonna happen.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:47 PM
Jul 2025

This congress will not have her testify.
Where will this go?? trump loses some of his MAGAnuts - He will still have a strong base but enough will abandon him to affect other republicans.
As far as Maxwell, I won't be surprised if she has a heart attack, stroke - it can't be another suicide.

Torchlight

(6,205 posts)
19. Not my circus. Not my monkeys.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:58 PM
Jul 2025

But boy oh boy! am I ever munching on popcorn watching them point fingers, "He's a pedo! She's a pedo! I have lists of pedos! There is no there there! There is no is there! There is no plusible deniability there!"

I think it will go as far as the Qtip-weirdos push in his ear. I think the establishment would rather let this play out by proxy.

Arazi

(8,647 posts)
23. Traitor already told the world he's on a fabricated list made up by Obama
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jul 2025

And Hillary.

Ghislaine Maxwell has got to be laughing her ass off in prison.

How can she top that?! 😂

dsc

(53,282 posts)
27. As a juror I would need to see what she said backed up by documents
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 06:21 PM
Jul 2025

because, no I wouldn't trust her.

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