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dugog55

(339 posts)
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:42 AM Friday

Where do all the new ICE agents come from?

With a huge influx of money for ICE, they are adding hundreds of new agents. Where are these people coming from? Ex-military? Washed up or booted out former cops? Are they getting any training in handling civilians, both the ones they are arresting and those that are witnesses? How far are people going to let this go before there is violence. From what little I have seen, there are occasionally large crowds around the abductions. What if a couple of people in the crowd are armed and starting shooting agents? That may sound extreme, but is it really? If you live somewhere where abductions are an everyday thing, a small group of like minded individuals could go rogue as vigilantes and start taking matters into their own hands to protect neighbors and friends. I do not disagree with them.

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Where do all the new ICE agents come from? (Original Post) dugog55 Friday OP
bounty hunters Henry203 Friday #1
Proud Boys edhopper Friday #2
Cops who got fired because they were shitty cops; guys who wanted to be cops Ocelot II Friday #3
Mercenary staffing agency bucolic_frolic Friday #4
That's one of my concerns imaginary girl Friday #5
Right? There must be a reason they don't want us to know who they are. /nt bucolic_frolic Friday #6
And they're not requiring thorough background checks. imaginary girl Friday #7
The Internet OC375 Friday #8
Good Lord luvallpeeps Friday #10
Looking at Meal Team ICE I have concerns about their physical fitness reqs. JanMichael Friday #19
Project 2025 Ferrets are Cool Friday #9
If you look at government job sites, you'll notice the primary job offers are for ICE/Border Patrol. Solly Mack Friday #11
January 6ers pardoned, white wing gangs, x-military, etc. Silent Type Friday #12
White supremacist websites lame54 Friday #13
+1 dalton99a Friday #15
I'm sure most of these suggestions are correct, BUT - werdna Friday #14
Why is it that some look like immigrants themselves? LaRaven Friday #16
Need an employer who likes your white pride tattoos and prison record? struggle4progress Friday #17
Grindr? Johonny Friday #18
The lowest quality losers of society zorbasd Friday #20
They're the guys too drunk to climb on the bus after a MAGA rally. 11 Bravo Friday #21
Bounty hunters, Proud boys and Bettie Friday #22
East Cornpone, Squalor Holler, Fleabag Corners, Redneckistan, the usual places. Aristus Friday #23

Ocelot II

(125,909 posts)
3. Cops who got fired because they were shitty cops; guys who wanted to be cops
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:49 AM
Friday

but couldn't pass the psych tests or get through the training courses; former military who miss all the shooting; authoritarian assholes tired of just beating their wives and girlfriends; racist assholes looking for an excuse to hassle brown people.

OC375

(132 posts)
8. The Internet
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:03 PM
Friday

Like everything else, the internet seems to be a tool. some slick videos and whatnot...

https://careers.cbp.gov/s/career-paths/usbp

https://www.usajobs.gov/job/839485200

From the requirements section...

You qualify for the GL-5 grade level if you possess one of the following:

Experience: One year of general experience equivalent to at least the next lower grade level that demonstrates the ability to take charge, make sound decisions, and maintain composure in stressful situations; to learn regulations, methods, and techniques through classroom training and/or on-the-job instruction; and the ability to gather concise information through questioning, observation, and examination of documents and records; OR

Education Substitution: A bachelor's degree or successful completion of a full 4-year course of study in any field leading to a bachelor's degree from an accredited or college or university; OR

Combination of Experience and Education: A combination of general experience AND successfully completed college education. This will be calculated using your resume and official or unofficial transcripts submitted with your application.

You qualify for the GL-7 grade level if you possess one of the following:

Experience: One year of specialized experience equivalent to at least the next lower grade level that shows you have the experience in law enforcement or other responsible work that demonstrates the skills necessary to:
Make sound judgments and decisions in the use of firearms.
Deal effectively with people in a courteous and tactful manner in connection with law enforcement matters.
Analyze information rapidly and make prompt decisions where you will be expected to make arrests after the completion of required training and apply these skills in a law enforcement capacity such as criminal code enforcement, determining violations of laws, correctional or rehabilitation work involving criminal offenders, security, military, etc.
The above experience will be applied in connection with the Border Patrol Individual Occupational Requirement: Make arrests and exercise sound judgment in the use of firearms; deal effectively with people in a courteous manner in connection with law enforcement matters; analyze information rapidly and make prompt decisions; or develop and maintain contact with a network of informants.

Education Substitution: A bachelor's degree with superior academic achievement, which is based on (1) class standing, (2) grade-point average (i.e., GPA of 3.0 or higher out of a possible 4.0), or (3) honor society membership. Submitted transcripts must show the applicant does not have more than 10% pass/fail courses in order to qualify for SAA with GPA. Go to Superior Academic Achievement to see if you qualify under this provision; OR

One full year of graduate level education in a field of study related to law enforcement (e.g., criminal justice, homeland security, justice studies, law enforcement, courts and judicial systems, forensic technology, forensic psychology, corrections and rehabilitation) or one year of law school from an accredited or college or university; OR

Combination of Experience and Education: A combination of specialized experience equivalent to at least the next lower grade level AND graduate level education completed in a field of study related to law enforcement from an accredited college or university . This will be calculated using your resume and official or unofficial transcripts submitted with your application.

More information on the qualifications can be found on our CBP.gov Border Patrol Qualifications Aid

If you have previous or current law enforcement or military law enforcement experience, you may qualify at the GL-9 and or GS-11 grade level. Please refer to the BPA GL-9 - 11 announcement: Apply Here!

National Service Experience: refers to paid and unpaid experience, including volunteer work done through National Service programs (e.g., Peace Corps, AmeriCorps) and other organizations (e.g., professional, philanthropic, religious, spiritual, community, student, social). Volunteer work helps build critical competencies, knowledge, and skills and can provide valuable training and experience that translates directly to paid employment. You will receive credit for all qualifying experience, including volunteer experience.

Experience as a CBP Explorer may be qualifying if your resume provides sufficient information to credit your experience. To receive full credit for your experience, please be sure to describe your duties, roles and responsibilities in detail.

Background Investigation: This position is a sensitive National Security position and, upon selection, applicants will be required to undergo, and must successfully pass, a Tier 5 investigation or equivalent for placement and retention. For more information, please see the Hiring Process Deep Dive Video: The Background Investigation.

Language Proficiency: Border Patrol work requires the ability to speak and read Spanish, as well as English. Agents will be provided training to become proficient with the Spanish language at the academy.

Uniform/Grooming Standards: This position requires wearing an officially approved uniform and complying with established grooming standards found here; as established by the Border Patrol's Uniform and Grooming Standards Policy #IOP-5320-02A-UGSBPA. Updated guidance: Please note that in accordance with these standards, tattoos and/or brandings on the head or face are not permitted. Obscene, derogatory and/or gang tattoos or brandings shall not be visible.
Education
See the Qualifications Section for education substitution.

Medical Requirements: Following a tentative job offer, candidates must undergo and successfully complete a medical screening process. Individuals must be medically and physically capable of performing the essential job functions and duties of the position safely and efficiently without endangering the health and safety of the individual, others, or national security. For more information, visit CBP's Medical Exam Process

Drug Testing Requirements: Employees are subject to drug testing in compliance with the DHS Drug-Free Workplace Program. You must complete a drug test as a condition of employment. For more information, visit our Drug Testing FAQs and the Hiring Process Deep Dive Video: The Drug Test

Physical Fitness Test: You will be required to successfully pass the Fitness Test. For more information, please see the Pre-Employment Fitness Test Physical Readiness Program and the Hiring Process Deep Dive Video: The Fitness Test

Interview Process: You will be required to pass a structured interview. For more information, please see the Hiring Process Deep Dive Video: Structured Interview

Rigorous Law Enforcement Officer Special Retirement Coverage: This is a rigorous position subject to mandatory retirement under the special retirement provisions for law enforcement officers under CSRS and FERS (5 CFR 842.803 and 5 CFR 831.903, Conditions for Coverage; 5 USC 8425(b) and 5 USC 8335(b), Mandatory Separation; and 5 USC 8412(d) and 5 USC 8336(c), Immediate Retirement). For more information on required years of service and retirement age, click on this link. For further information on when an employee continues or discontinues coverage under the special retirement system for law enforcement officers, please see the CSRS and FERS handbook, Chapter 46 (CSRS pages 12-14, and FERS pages 41-43). If you have questions regarding your retirement coverage provisions, please contact the CBP Retirement Operations Center at (202) 863-6180.

Additional information
You must be a U.S. Citizen to apply for this position.

...etc...



luvallpeeps

(1,218 posts)
10. Good Lord
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:05 PM
Friday

“Adrenaline rushes come standard”. So they’re adrenaline junkies then. Great.😡

Solly Mack

(95,268 posts)
11. If you look at government job sites, you'll notice the primary job offers are for ICE/Border Patrol.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:06 PM
Friday

Used to be you could find all manner of government jobs but now it's almost exclusively for ICE/Border Patrol. So, former military, former police, assorted fuck-ups and wash-outs.

werdna

(1,068 posts)
14. I'm sure most of these suggestions are correct, BUT -
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:20 PM
Friday

- I think mercenary soldiers and security outfits, like Blackwater are the key contributors. Let's face it, you don't need record setting amounts of money to fund bounty hunters, Jan. 6 revolters, or fascists; an ideological bone thrown their way is usually sufficient. But if you want to enlist private, corporate paramilitary mercenaries, you'd better bring some big bucks along with you. Which the Trump administration and Republican representatives and Senators have done.

Bettie

(18,567 posts)
22. Bounty hunters, Proud boys and
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 03:06 PM
Friday

other right wing militias, oh, and people who were too violent to become cops.

Probably Nazis and KKK members as well.

Basically, the dregs of society, the people who have been waiting for the opportunity to kill people without any sort of repercussions.

Heck, since Noem doesn't see the people being detained as human beings, they can probably rape them as well with no one giving a single fuck. They won't be given due process, so who's going to stop them from doing whatever they want?

Aristus

(70,393 posts)
23. East Cornpone, Squalor Holler, Fleabag Corners, Redneckistan, the usual places.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 03:14 PM
Friday

Back woods hicks, losers, and clodhoppers. They must be loving this. First reg'lar paycheck; first pair of shoes, food that ain't got buckshot in it...

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