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Mr.Bee

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Tue Jul 8, 2025, 10:46 AM Jul 8

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) Mr.Bee Jul 8 OP
Wow Demovictory9 Jul 8 #1
Republicans have been trying to take over PBS for years now. live love laugh Jul 8 #2
they got rid of it. hem AllaN01Bear Jul 8 #3
most of my am and fm are sinclair affilliates and u know what that means , ugh AllaN01Bear Jul 8 #4
Got following on AI (sorry), Valley PBS in Fresno is off due to fire destroying transmitter. Can't vouch for truth. Silent Type Jul 8 #5
Don't even know if that's area in OP Mr.Bee Jul 8 #6
Got it. Thanks. Silent Type Jul 8 #7
KRCB, KPJK, and KVIE are still broadcasting over the air obamanut2012 Jul 8 #9
KVIE out of Sacramento is still on air -- I am WFH today and just checked via the wall antenna obamanut2012 Jul 8 #8
KQED in SF is still on air kimbutgar Jul 8 #10
What's the source for this? Silver Gaia Jul 8 #11
Oh! My source Mr.Bee Jul 8 #12
That just means your TV isn't receiving it, not that it isn't broadcasting obamanut2012 Jul 8 #20
Yeah, PBS, NPR and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting should be good for awhile indusurb Jul 8 #13
FOUR COUNTIES Mr.Bee Jul 8 #14
Except PBS in Norcal has not been taken off the air -- come on, self delete this obamanut2012 Jul 8 #21
Oh Gee, I'm Sorry, are you receiving Over The Air Broadcasting?? Mr.Bee Jul 10 #25
I Will Delete This Post Mr.Bee Jul 10 #26
You appear to be very confused. onenote Jul 11 #30
What's next... Dave Id Jul 8 #15
All technical problems will get a GOP/DOGE solution to ensure it never happens again IronLionZion Jul 8 #16
I Urge Eveyone Mr.Bee Jul 8 #17
This, coming from a guy Mr.Bee Jul 8 #18
the PBS broadcast from Cal Poly Humboldt in Arcata... mike_c Jul 8 #19
Day Four Mr.Bee Jul 9 #22
but it's still a technical problem right? eShirl Jul 9 #23
Mendocino, Humboldt, Trinity, Del Norte counties: Mr.Bee Jul 10 #24
Day Six Mr.Bee Jul 11 #27
Which stations? onenote Jul 11 #32
Misleading headline. bif Jul 11 #28
Sadly, it occurs too often on DU onenote Jul 11 #29
Really? What's another word for ceased? Mr.Bee Jul 11 #31
PBS doesn't broadcast over-the-air. It provides programming to over-the-air affiliated stations onenote Jul 11 #33
READ Mr.Bee Jul 11 #34
Why can't you or won't you identify the station or stations? onenote Jul 11 #35
Because when I quote Mr.Bee Jul 11 #36
https://www.keet.org/ SickOfTheOnePct Jul 11 #37
So mystery solved. KEET, a PBS affiliated station licensed to the Eureka market, is dark for some viewers. onenote Jul 11 #38
My Goal Was To Inform Mr.Bee Jul 11 #39

Demovictory9

(36,856 posts)
1. Wow
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jul 8

live love laugh

(15,685 posts)
2. Republicans have been trying to take over PBS for years now.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 10:55 AM
Jul 8

AllaN01Bear

(26,676 posts)
3. they got rid of it. hem
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jul 8

AllaN01Bear

(26,676 posts)
4. most of my am and fm are sinclair affilliates and u know what that means , ugh
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:09 AM
Jul 8

Silent Type

(10,552 posts)
5. Got following on AI (sorry), Valley PBS in Fresno is off due to fire destroying transmitter. Can't vouch for truth.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:12 AM
Jul 8
Don't even know if that's area in OP.

Here's some confirmation:

Valley PBS learned late Tuesday night that its transmitter had been destroyed.

"Once we get more of an idea of what they damage is, we'll be able to get a better understanding of what we need to do moving forward," Valley PBS Chief Operating Officer, Robert Mollison said.

Mollison says the station airs a variety of shows on channels 18.1 through 18.4.

"They would all be here." Mollison said while pointing to Valley PBS's tv monitors. "Unfortunately, as you can see, it's dark for the time being."

https://abc30.com/post/valley-pbs-unable-broadcast-air-after-fire-burns/15003287/#:~:text=Valley%20PBS%20learned%20late%20Tuesday,on%20Facebook%2C%20Twitter%20and%20Instagram.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
6. Don't even know if that's area in OP
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:25 AM
Jul 8

Fresno, California is a city in the San Joaquin Valley of Central California.
They might still be broadcasting on cable systems, but up here in the redwoods, Mendocino, Humboldt, Trinity, Del Norte counties a lot of people are retired and on fixed incomes and can't afford even basic cable with is a substantial monthly bill.

Silent Type

(10,552 posts)
7. Got it. Thanks.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:27 AM
Jul 8

obamanut2012

(28,666 posts)
9. KRCB, KPJK, and KVIE are still broadcasting over the air
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:38 AM
Jul 8

The latter is my PBS station in Sac, the rest are more NORCAL than me and are also still broadcasting. Which channels do you know that aren't, so you can c/p them in your OP for accuracy?

obamanut2012

(28,666 posts)
8. KVIE out of Sacramento is still on air -- I am WFH today and just checked via the wall antenna
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:35 AM
Jul 8

We stream it via Roku or phone app, but I checked after I saw your app. Your OP is not 100% accurate.

NorCal Public Media (KRCB and KPJK) are also still over air.

kimbutgar

(25,642 posts)
10. KQED in SF is still on air
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 12:10 PM
Jul 8

Silver Gaia

(5,128 posts)
11. What's the source for this?
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 12:49 PM
Jul 8

Please post your source. Apparently, it is incorrect, according to myself and others. KVIE and KQED are still broadcasting here in my part of Northern CA. We still need to know the souurce for this, though. Thanks.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
12. Oh! My source
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 12:58 PM
Jul 8
is my eyes and ears, and hours of watching 'NO SIGNAL' on the screen waiting for it to come on for three daze!

obamanut2012

(28,666 posts)
20. That just means your TV isn't receiving it, not that it isn't broadcasting
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:19 PM
Jul 8

indusurb

(172 posts)
13. Yeah, PBS, NPR and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting should be good for awhile
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:01 PM
Jul 8

Read an article a few months back that they had seen this coming years ago and had stockpiled e ought reserves to keep it all going for a few years if/when government funding got cut.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
14. FOUR COUNTIES
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:37 PM
Jul 8

Up here in the redwoods, Mendocino, Humboldt, Trinity, Del Norte counties,
Our PBS goes out, it takes with it programming not available on commercial TV:
Cooking shows, Art shows, Travel shows, Documentary shows, Native American shows, Science shows,
News from Outside the US; BBC, Germany, Japan, France!
Not just only ONE POINT of View!
No PBS, then no TV at all.

obamanut2012

(28,666 posts)
21. Except PBS in Norcal has not been taken off the air -- come on, self delete this
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:20 PM
Jul 8

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
25. Oh Gee, I'm Sorry, are you receiving Over The Air Broadcasting??
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jul 10

I'm not talking about CABLE or STREAMING
if you only have a TV and an antenna, you're outta luck!
Five Days OUTTA LUCK!

any cord-cutters in the four Northern California counties, where are you??
SPEAK UP!

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
26. I Will Delete This Post
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 02:29 PM
Jul 10
When PBS Resumes Over The AIR Broadcasts !

onenote

(45,492 posts)
30. You appear to be very confused.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:56 AM
Jul 11

PBS doesn't directly broadcast over the air. They provide programming to PBS-affiliated non-commercial stations.

Which station or stations do you tune into in order to receive PBS programming? You've never said. But lots of posters have indicated that there are PBS-affiliated stations in northern california that are broadcasting.

Dave Id

(138 posts)
15. What's next...
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:42 PM
Jul 8

...arresting on-air critics of the fascist POS in the White House?

IronLionZion

(49,511 posts)
16. All technical problems will get a GOP/DOGE solution to ensure it never happens again
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:45 PM
Jul 8

which is cut funding and fire everyone.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
17. I Urge Eveyone
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jul 8
Let Your Voice Be Heard:
https://protectmypublicmedia.org/protect-public-media-petition/
Call:
https://protectmypublicmedia.org/rsc-calls/
email:
You Can send email if you prefer not to call,
https://protectmypublicmedia.org/rsc-emails/
PBS is a National Treasure deserving of preservation!

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
18. This, coming from a guy
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:51 PM
Jul 8

who built his own HDTV with old monitor, a DTV converter box from Amazon $33, and amplified computer speakers!
I had just set a smaller version in the kitchen when the signal went out.

mike_c

(36,652 posts)
19. the PBS broadcast from Cal Poly Humboldt in Arcata...
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jul 8

...was shuttered several years ago by a cost cutting university president.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
22. Day Four
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 08:50 PM
Jul 9

No Signal, No Transmission, No Explanation, No Warning.

eShirl

(19,409 posts)
23. but it's still a technical problem right?
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:16 PM
Jul 9
Update: July 8, 9:50am
My sister finally got through, and it seems to be a technical problem, the transmitter seems okay, they are talking to the manufacturer.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
24. Mendocino, Humboldt, Trinity, Del Norte counties:
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:31 AM
Jul 10
They told to my sister it was a technical problem, the transmitter seems okay,
then why are they not even broadcasting a signal my channel scan can find?
Mendocino, Humboldt, Trinity, Del Norte counties,
if you only have a TV and an antenna, you're outta luck!

If you live in any one of these four northern California counties
you need to call this station and let them know you rely on broadcasting
of shows like Newshour, DemocracyNow, DWNews, BBCnews, for truthful news!
To go off the air for FIVE days is unacceptable, we pay for this whether we donate or not,
and we'd never see a commercial station do this even after a natural disaster!

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
27. Day Six
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:01 AM
Jul 11

Good Morning and Welcome to Day Six
of no broadcast, no transmission, no signal.
No PBS, Create, FNX, World.

onenote

(45,492 posts)
32. Which stations?
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:57 AM
Jul 11

You still haven't identified the call signs of the PBS-affiliated station or stations you say have been dark for six days -- an event that one would expect to be mentioned somewhere else on the Internet, but seemingly hasn't been.

bif

(25,992 posts)
28. Misleading headline.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:43 AM
Jul 11

onenote

(45,492 posts)
29. Sadly, it occurs too often on DU
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:48 AM
Jul 11

The post was edited, but the misleading headline left up.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
31. Really? What's another word for ceased?
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:57 AM
Jul 11

Discontinued? no longer available or produced? Stopped?
I'm not misleading, They stopped broadcasting Sunday!
I'm asking others who may be watching OVER THE AIR PBS
in those four counties are experiencing the same problem for six days now.

A lot of complaining on this site about this country's news media, and
I find it important to watch news programs from outside the country!

Which PBS offers from BBC, France, Japan and Germany!

onenote

(45,492 posts)
33. PBS doesn't broadcast over-the-air. It provides programming to over-the-air affiliated stations
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 11:59 AM
Jul 11

Which station or stations are you unable to receive? Because PBS clearly is still providing programming to stations or this would be a nationwide outage.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
34. READ
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:03 PM
Jul 11

I did not mislead. I stated clearly in the title: Northern California
Okay, Local PBS Ceased Over The Air Broadcasting In Northern California
which they have for four counties they serve for six days now.

onenote

(45,492 posts)
35. Why can't you or won't you identify the station or stations?
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jul 11

PBS doesn't broadcast over the air. If they were shut down, their programming wouldn't be available to their affiliated stations. So which are the affiliated stations that you normally can receive but now can't?

Here are the four stations that serve the counties you identified:
Mendocino County: KRCB, channel 22, licensed to Cotati
Humboldt County: KEET, channel 13, licensed to Eureka
Trinity County: KIXE, channel 9, licensed to Redding
Del Norte County: KVIE, channel 6 - licensed to Sacramento

It's a simple question: when you want to watch PBS programming over-the-air, which of these stations to you tune into? While I don't know exactly where you live, I'd be surprised if all four have coverage areas that overlap. My guess is that you probably watch KIXE, which has a pretty strong signal that covers over 130 miles and touches all four counties. That being said, if KIXE had been dark for six days, it would have been reported by someone other than just you.

The other possibility is that you get your over-the-air signal from a low-power "translator" station that repeats the primary station's signal. Those low power stations are not supported by the level of resources as a full power station and extended outages are not unknown and because they impact a relatively limited area, don't make the news when they happen.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
36. Because when I quote
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 02:44 PM
Jul 11

the call letters K-E-E-T, people say, "what's that?"

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,183 posts)
37. https://www.keet.org/
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 02:52 PM
Jul 11

Says they're having issues and are working on it.

onenote

(45,492 posts)
38. So mystery solved. KEET, a PBS affiliated station licensed to the Eureka market, is dark for some viewers.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 02:54 PM
Jul 11

Not PBS generally. Just one station.

The station's website and facebook page both note that they are experiencing outages that impact some viewers. That is a station problem, not a PBS problem. YOUR POST SUGGESTING PBS HAS CEASED BROADCASTING IS MISLEADING. PBS doesn't broadcast. It supplies programming that broadcast its programming. It is still doing so which is why every other station that is a PBS member is broadcasting PBS programming.

But if your goal was to get folks to click on your post, congrats.

Mr.Bee

(1,059 posts)
39. My Goal Was To Inform
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 03:25 PM
Jul 11
and see if there are other Over The Air Antenna viewers experiencing this same six day outage.
Not to mislead and misinform. It is true that the station used to have a near 100% signal,
and could reach into Mendocino and Trinity counties, but since the UHF-VHF band reorganization,
I'll admit the signal has diminished somewhat.
I apologize for any misunderstanding and was not trying to create 'clickbait'.
While Humboldt County falls within this general area, and you might receive some signal in parts of Del Norte County depending on your specific location and antenna setup, you can get a more precise determination of KEET's OTA signal strength and availability in both Humboldt and Del Norte counties by using the DTV Reception Maps tool provided by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC).
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