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vanessa_ca

(298 posts)
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 04:09 PM Jun 28

BernieSanders: Mamdani won. The establishment is in panic. Leftwing populist victory can be replicated across US

Bernie Sanders @BernieSanders
Mamdani won. The establishment is in panic.

Billionaires are raising money against him; Trump is ranting; Islamophobes are on the loose.

They know what we know: Candidates who stand boldly with the working class can win not only in NYC, but anywhere.

Let's stand with Zohran.
11:05 AM · Jun 27, 2025



Mamdani says leftwing populist victory can be replicated across US
Democratic socialist tells MSNBC his campaign against Cuomo shows leftist politics can thrive beyond New York
Chris Michael
Thu 26 Jun 2025 09.23 EDT

Mamdani, a Democratic socialist, stunned many observers by beating Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday night, delivering a devastating blow to the former New York governor who ran a centrist campaign backed by most of the party establishment.

Mamdani told MSNBC’s Jen Psaki that his populist campaign – which focused on inequality and promised radical moves on rent, the price of food and free public transport – could be deployed anywhere in the US as Democrats seek to combat Donald Trump and his Maga movement.

“I think ultimately this is a campaign about inequality, and you don’t have to live in the most expensive city in the country to have experienced that inequality, because it’s a national issue. And what Americans coast to coast are looking for are people who will fight for them, not just believe in the things that resonate with their lives, but actually fight and deliver on those very things,” he said.

-snip-

“We have found exactly the way to defeat organized money, which is organized people. We’re speaking about a scale of a campaign that we haven’t seen in this city in a long time,” Mamdani said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/26/zohran-mamdani-interview-leftwing-politics-us-elections

And he's right. The wealth inequality and deteriorating material conditions of the working class in NYC are universal all across America in every single working class community. Mamdani's message and vision resonate.
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BernieSanders: Mamdani won. The establishment is in panic. Leftwing populist victory can be replicated across US (Original Post) vanessa_ca Jun 28 OP
Exactly! ananda Jun 28 #1
Wealthiest times in human history. Kid Berwyn Jun 28 #2
Exactly. People noted how the worse our living conditions get, vanessa_ca Jun 28 #3
It's why people like Jimmy Carter wanted to take private money out of political campaigns. Kid Berwyn Jun 28 #7
Not exactly, the rest of the country is not New York City. bottomofthehill Jun 28 #4
Affordable housing, healthcare, etc are national interests. Emile Jun 28 #8
But many of these types of candidates don't focus on that and instead get baited... W_HAMILTON Jun 28 #30
Gotta start somewhere. Gen Z will decide in the long run? Evolve Dammit Jun 28 #20
Exactly PatSeg Jun 28 #35
Yes, because the New York City electorate is exactly like the rest of the US FrankBooth Jun 28 #5
There's no panic........................ Lovie777 Jun 28 #6
The Establishment is scared, in a panic, terrified, will stop at nothing to defeat us -- ridiculously overdramatic. betsuni Jun 28 #10
it's part of the one trick pony playbook Skittles Jun 28 #23
Yeah, plenty of Dems have congratulated Mamdani. It is the Republicans who are freaking out emulatorloo Jun 28 #29
The country is swinging left in response to Trump. Joinfortmill Jun 28 #9
I certainly hope so LilElf70 Jun 28 #12
Dear Dog I hope so! Evolve Dammit Jun 28 #24
I sure wish someone started taking on CItizens United. LilElf70 Jun 28 #11
Could it be replicated in Vermont ? They have a Republican governor JI7 Jun 28 #13
There is already a Mayor similar to Mamdani in Chicago JI7 Jun 28 #14
poverty and despair et tu Jun 28 #15
What's the point of Cha Jun 28 #16
That's what billionaires do. They divide the party. Emile Jun 28 #17
I know he's written a lot of books lately, but I don't think Sanders is a billionaire just yet. W_HAMILTON Jun 28 #31
Nice try, or spin. LOL Emile Jun 28 #32
Sanders is the one that is dividing OUR party here with another of his rants about """the Establishment.""" W_HAMILTON Jun 28 #34
So do you feel AOC is also dividing the democratic party too. Since her and Bernie Emile Jun 29 #39
I don't see people posting her constantly droning on about """the Establishment.""" W_HAMILTON Jun 29 #40
You mentioned AOC attacked the democratic party. What attacks on the democratic party? Emile Jun 29 #41
Are you implying she hasn't, at times, gone after the Democratic Party the same way Sanders constantly is? W_HAMILTON Jun 29 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author AZProgressive Jun 29 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Emile Jun 29 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author AZProgressive Jun 29 #44
EXACTLY. AGAIN. Cha Jun 29 #50
Since 2018 he has put out one book, and that was closing in on 2 and a half years ago. Celerity Jun 29 #37
Which is Sanders' message exactly. muriel_volestrangler Jun 29 #45
Bernie gets it dlk Jun 28 #18
He is right. He might enact legislation that takes 1% from the ultra-wealthy. Horrors (clutch pearls)... Evolve Dammit Jun 28 #19
He just won the nomination. LisaL Jun 28 #21
What are conservatives labeling themselves these days? Warpy Jun 28 #22
The No Labels-spawned Problem Solvers Caucus (US House) Celerity Jun 29 #38
"" AllaN01Bear Jun 28 #25
No on so many levels. RandySF Jun 28 #26
Mamdani needs to somehow appeal to union workers... AntiFascist Jun 28 #27
I remember one major labor union endorsing Mamdani over Cuomo prior to the primary election AZProgressive Jun 28 #28
The $30 per hour minimum wage is going to increase wages for everyone MichMan Jun 29 #52
Thanks Bernie. "Liberty becomes a question of morals more than of politics." Lord Acton Ping Tung Jun 28 #33
Sounds like some people making the same argument about Mamdani that was made about Bernie. Bluepinky Jun 29 #36
I don't see "panic". Why would anyone use that word? Oopsie Daisy Jun 29 #46
Can it be replicated across America? kentuck Jun 29 #48
H*ll, yeah!!! snot Jun 29 #49
Yup, Sanders nails it. republianmushroom Jun 29 #51

Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
2. Wealthiest times in human history.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 04:23 PM
Jun 28

And in the USA, all government can ever do is cut taxes for the rich and pay welfare for the wealthy.

We the People notice when pols point out the hypocrisy.

vanessa_ca

(298 posts)
3. Exactly. People noted how the worse our living conditions get,
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 04:29 PM
Jun 28

the more rich donors make out like bandits.

Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
7. It's why people like Jimmy Carter wanted to take private money out of political campaigns.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 04:58 PM
Jun 28

Publicly financed campaigns would remove the undue influence of money and the undue influence of those who have it, compared to those who don't.

At the end of his term as term, President Carter didn't have many friends on his side of the aisle.

bottomofthehill

(9,209 posts)
4. Not exactly, the rest of the country is not New York City.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 04:43 PM
Jun 28

That is the problem. He is a great candidate for the city, but …. What sells in New York City does not sell in Peoria, Cincinnati, Youngstown, Akron, places the Democratic Party needs to win in.

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
30. But many of these types of candidates don't focus on that and instead get baited...
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:03 PM
Jun 28

...into extreme and/or tangential debates that derail them in places like those mentioned.

PatSeg

(50,587 posts)
35. Exactly
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:51 PM
Jun 28

Every city, district, and state is different. What works in one place might not work in another. This divisive approach will not serve Democrats well.

I am disturbed by some of the talk of purging the party of more established and experienced candidates. It is a recipe for failure. I am sure republicans are loving it, not to mention probably encouraging it.

FrankBooth

(1,826 posts)
5. Yes, because the New York City electorate is exactly like the rest of the US
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 04:45 PM
Jun 28

I'd love it to be true, but it ain't.

betsuni

(28,108 posts)
10. The Establishment is scared, in a panic, terrified, will stop at nothing to defeat us -- ridiculously overdramatic.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jun 28

emulatorloo

(45,930 posts)
29. Yeah, plenty of Dems have congratulated Mamdani. It is the Republicans who are freaking out
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 08:26 PM
Jun 28

But Bernie has his “narrative” so he’s sticking to it.

JI7

(92,309 posts)
13. Could it be replicated in Vermont ? They have a Republican governor
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 06:00 PM
Jun 28

who got like 80 percent of the democratic vote.

Maybe there should be a few rallies held there with AOC and Mamdani.

JI7

(92,309 posts)
14. There is already a Mayor similar to Mamdani in Chicago
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 06:09 PM
Jun 28

Brandon Johnson is already Mayor and Mamdani and him have similar positions.

Cha

(312,969 posts)
16. What's the point of
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 06:24 PM
Jun 28

Being Divisive? We Need All hands on Deck.

Not Diviision. This happened before. Not a winning strategy

How about calling out the Treasonous assholes that have taken over our Country?

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
31. I know he's written a lot of books lately, but I don't think Sanders is a billionaire just yet.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:06 PM
Jun 28

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
34. Sanders is the one that is dividing OUR party here with another of his rants about """the Establishment."""
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:40 PM
Jun 28

Emile

(35,885 posts)
39. So do you feel AOC is also dividing the democratic party too. Since her and Bernie
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 06:26 AM
Jun 29

together are crisscrossing the country on their Fighting Oligarchy Tour?

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
40. I don't see people posting her constantly droning on about """the Establishment."""
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 06:34 AM
Jun 29

Her attacks on the Democratic Party as a whole have seemed to decrease over the years, which is a good sign that she isn't following too closely in Sanders's footsteps because I'd like to see her have a productive political career with actual progressive accomplishments to her name.

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
47. Are you implying she hasn't, at times, gone after the Democratic Party the same way Sanders constantly is?
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jun 29

I mean, I lived through it. I used to rebut her attacks on Democrats about as often as I did Sanders, but she's since apparently learned that constantly attacking your Democratic colleagues that you are supposed to be working with is a good way to find yourself on an island and end up not amounting to much in terms of political power or accomplishments.

If you truly aren't aware of how she used to be, you can do a Google search and easily find out the sorts of attacks I am referring to. I would link some here, but I don't want to drive traffic to sites I view as biased against Democrats -- in fact, many of them would happily report on the divisions between AOC and the Democratic Party to further drive a wedge between those of us on the left. "Exasperated Democrats try to rein in Ocasio-Cortez" is one such article, just for those that honestly believe that AOC hasn't gone after Democrats quite often in the past...

Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #40)

Response to AZProgressive (Reply #42)

Response to Emile (Reply #43)

muriel_volestrangler

(104,089 posts)
45. Which is Sanders' message exactly.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 07:08 AM
Jun 29

"Billionaires are raising money against him; Trump is ranting; Islamophobes are on the loose."

All hands on deck, not division, means supporting party primary winners. In the case of the NYC Mayor, that's Mamdani.

dlk

(12,768 posts)
18. Bernie gets it
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jun 28

The backlash against Mamdani is based on fear from monied interests: corporations and the ultra-rich. They might be required to share a little more.

Evolve Dammit

(20,997 posts)
19. He is right. He might enact legislation that takes 1% from the ultra-wealthy. Horrors (clutch pearls)...
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jun 28

Warpy

(113,680 posts)
22. What are conservatives labeling themselves these days?
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 06:57 PM
Jun 28

They've been DLC, Blue Dogs, Third Way, Fiscal Conservatives.....what is it these days? Some, like Cuomo, are legacies, never a good idea in any democracy. I don't really think Establishment says a lot since some of them could have been elected yesterday. It would just be convenient if they had a new label.

The Cuomo primary defeat was especially satisfying since it defeated trashing his own party, appeasing theirs, and his legacy status. It was a threefer, those don't happen very often.

It would just be nice to know what catchy ID they've come up with for themselves these days.

AntiFascist

(13,494 posts)
27. Mamdani needs to somehow appeal to union workers...
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 07:41 PM
Jun 28

Sanders has put a lot of effort into this.

AZProgressive

(29,698 posts)
28. I remember one major labor union endorsing Mamdani over Cuomo prior to the primary election
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 08:06 PM
Jun 28

I remember one saying that Cuomo turned his back on them when he was governor. I wasn't sure I tried to look it up but did find this:

Two Major NYC Unions Drop Andrew Cuomo To Endorse Zohran Mamdani

Two major New York City labor unions that previously supported former Gov. Andrew Cuomo in this year’s race for mayor have dropped him to endorse Zohran Mamdani, the democratic socialist who won the Democratic primary.

The Hotel and Gaming Trades Council and 32BJ SEIU, which represents building service workers in the city, intend to back Mamdani, a 33-year-old state assemblyman, following his electrifying upset against Cuomo in the race for mayor, according to multiplereports.

The endorsements add another significant win for Mamdani: The hotel workers’ union represents 40,000 members in the city, while the building workers’ union represents an additional 85,000.

A third union, the New York State Nurses Association, also endorsed Mamdani. It represents 30,000 members in the city.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-major-nyc-unions-drop-183813018.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

It looks like he is expanding his union support after the primary.

MichMan

(15,446 posts)
52. The $30 per hour minimum wage is going to increase wages for everyone
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 04:07 PM
Jun 29

Those union members now making 2x minimum wage should expect to get $60 per hour. Add in free child care, and rent freezes on top of it. Also, the city owned grocery stores will all be unionized. The unions will see a significant increase in dues.

To those that say it is unaffordable are ignoring the huge spike in city income tax collections and being able to eliminate many anti poverty programs that will no longer be necessary.

Bluepinky

(2,450 posts)
36. Sounds like some people making the same argument about Mamdani that was made about Bernie.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 02:23 AM
Jun 29

“He’s too far to the left, mainstream America will never vote for him. We need a moderate Democrat.” And look where that got us.
People are ready for change, for our political system to work for the majority of us, not just the wealthy. Get big money out of politics!

kentuck

(114,373 posts)
48. Can it be replicated across America?
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jun 29

By the time FOX and right-wing media get thru defining "socialism", how strong will the movement be?

I'm not sure that Andrew Cuomo was that strong of an opponent?

We should wait and see how the general election goes against a very unpopular Mayor.

snot

(11,168 posts)
49. H*ll, yeah!!!
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 01:38 PM
Jun 29

Our pockets have been picked too long, and Dem voters aren't the only ones who've noticed.

And btw, re- the "BBB," people may finally be wising up to the "throw the plebs a bone while saving the steak for the 01%" tax strategy.

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