So will Kirsten Gillibrand support Andrew Cuomo over Zohran Mamdani?

[Chasstev365]

The proven sexual harasser?

I'm STILL pissed about her knee jerk reaction to get rid of a political rival Al Franken; one of the best Democratic Senators in my lifetime.

However, if she now backs Coumo over Zohran Mamdani, I will be livid!

[LuvLoogie]

1. KG: Hmmmm....

Do we have to support "Democrats" who don't support Democrats?

[Iris]

6. She drove Al Franken out of the Senate over sex pest allegations

If she were to support Cuomo, that would be pretty fucked up.

[MurrayDelph]

12. But now she's no longer

trying to ride "Me, too" into the White House.

[LuvLoogie]

24. She will. She's party establishment.

Not about advancement of democracy.

[Kaleva]

25. I believe Elizabeth Warren was also part of that.

[SocialDemocrat61]

8. Like those who

threw Biden under the bus last year?

[LuvLoogie]

23. They all seem irrelevant now.

While I hold to my Democratic principals, I have little faith that this party knows how to advance them.

Racists, liars, and thieves don't like to be called racists, liars, and thieves. But they are who hold the three branches now. Our party better understand that and act accordingly.

[Polybius]

2. Current Mayor Eric Adams is running too

He claims to be an Independent Democrat. It'll be interesting to see if he can secure any endorsements.

[fujiyamasan]

4. Cuomo and Adams have such giant egos

I’d imagine they’ll split the anti Mamdani vote. Silwa is a non starter anyways, so if they vote for either of these two I’d expect any republicans to get behind Adams. I’m sure they still hate Cuomo after he took over the spotlight from their fuhrher during COVID.

[Nanjeanne]

5. Perhaps antisemite Sneako? He smoked cigars and chatted with him for an hour - with Amber Rose as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/nyregion/adams-sneako-interview.html]

[David__77]

10. The good news is most voters will associate Mamdani with the Democratic Party and its values.

[SocialDemocrat61]

11. A lot of voters

vote by party line. Plus most of the energy is behind Mamdani so that will give him an advantage.

[karynnj]

13. I am not a resident of NYC, so I can be very wrong in what I've read

The second biggest bloc of voters after the Democratic party is the independents. One source stated the average age of independents is lower than those registered to a party.

The primary showed that Mamdani got considerably more first round votes than Cuomo in the CLOSED Democratic party. It boggles my mind to assume that the older Democrats did not show in the primary - so it was dominated by young people. This likely means that Mamdani will get over half of the Democrats with Cuomo getting the lion's share.

However, I would suspect that the younger, non-aligned voters will go pretty heavily for Mamdani. These 2 things make him the very likely winner of a basically three way race, with a small limited number of Republicans voting for Sliwa.

The only poll I have seen is by the polling firm that was most incorrect in the primary, predicting that Cuomo would best Mamdani by 17 points! In the article, though they essentially pay themselves on the back for including Mamdani in early polls and noting his support increased over time.

Their results showed it Cuomo did not run, Mamdani wins in a landslide. If Cuomo stays in, the results show it is close between Cuomo and Mamdani. They also say in the unlikely event that Adams drops out, Cuomo wins.

From the Facebook posts of a NYC friend I've known for about 40 years, I see part of the problem. She as a feminist, good government lawyer, who is also very pro Israel, but progressive on most other issues. She posted about a potential additional independent who she hoped could gain traction. In her case, she was extremely against Adams even before he became mayor due to corruption. She thinks Cuomo's harassment charges are believable and thinks he is a very poor choice. Sliwa is out of the question.

Mamdani, had he never mentioned Israel, would likely still not have been her choice because of his lack of experience. Yet, given the alternatives, I suspect if not for Israel, given the alternatives she would not be looking for another independent.

While I know that one person could be atypical, I suspect she is not alone. She also is completely aware that another independent would further divide the not Mamdani vote.

[Akakoji]

29. Ranked choice voting is a strange thing

I suggest we all wait to see how many people bothered to even vote. I’ve been involved in city politics since the 70s. Adams will not drop out. I’d be surprised if Cuomo drops out after second ranking comes in. The assumption that Independent voters will vote for Mandami is based on? He didn’t even pass a bill while in Assembly. New Yorkers can be very practical. We want a Mayor that can get things done. Cuomo’s record is exemplary. Mamdani has no record to speak of. What has he done in his career so far!

[SocialDemocrat61]

33. They don't use ranked choice for the general election

That's only used in the primary for avoid having run offs. In the election, its whomever gets the most votes, whether is a majority or not, is the the winner.

[Akakoji]

35. I understand that. But if Mondani's voters, for example

Did not pick a second or third choice during the primaries, especially if they chose Cuomo, that gives both Adams and Cuomo a reason to believe they could win.im of the opinion that Cuomowould prevail with at least 40% of the vote in a general election.

[SocialDemocrat61]

37. What Adams and Cuomo believe

and what will happen may be two different things. Cuomo believed he would win the primary easily. How did that work out for him?

[Akakoji]

38. Obviously not well

No one expected Mamdani’s ground game. It was like a rave on an extremely hot day. Young people and enthusiastic voters have an easier time getting around. In politics, it’s sustainability of effort that counts. Democrats are notoriously bad at that. But I hope that if Mamdani can sustain and grow that commitment he is rewarded by it. We desperately need people to always vote, annd always fight. Good luck!

[karynnj]

34. As I stated, I am not a New Yorker

If I were I probably would have voted for Lander. I made the comment that Mamdani might do better with independents was entirely based on having read that younger people are far more likely to register as Independent than my baby boom generation coupled with many saying it was the younger people who voted for Mamdani. My husband registered as a Democrat and joined one of political groups back in the 1970s and 1980s when he lived in NYC.

I will be interested in the second round because I don't think the cross endorsements will be followed by many of the people. I would not be surprised if Cuomo actually gets more of the rolled up vote than Mamdani. I also suspect there will be a surprising number of people not including both Mamdani and Cuomo.

[Akakoji]

36. I agree.

I’ve spoken with a large number of both Mamdani voters and Landers voters. I have yet to speak with a Mamdani voter that voted for anyone other than him. No ranked choices at all. On the other hand, everything Landers voter I’ve spoken with chose Cuomo, Adams, then a range of others. Also I’ve spoken with a lot of voters that did not vote in the primary. They can’t believe Mamdani got so many votes - he had a great ground game - but don’t plan at this point to vote for him. We’ll see.

[MIButterfly]

3. I agree.

The loss of Al Franken still makes me mad. Like Joe Biden, he's a decent, kind, good-hearted, hardworking man who truly cared about serving the people.

I know other Democratic leaders were on the bandwagon, calling for Franken to step down, but she seemed to be the most vocal.

If she does indeed endorse Cuomo, I will be beyond disgusted.

[SocialDemocrat61]

7. She didn't endorse him in the primary

https://www.andrewcuomo.com/endorsements
Why would she endorse him in the election? Most likely she’ll stay out of it. She lives in upstate New York, not NYC, so she probably won’t get involved.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

15. Why would she endorse him? Because he's the Dem nominee.

That probably doesn't mean much to her, but it should.

[SocialDemocrat61]

19. True

But since she doesn’t live in NYC, she can use that to not get involved. Wouldn’t be the first elected official to do that and not the last.

[SocialDemocrat61]

9. Ted Kennedy was the best democratic senator in my lifetime

Plus Hubert Humphrey, Henry Jackson, Evan Bayh, Daniel Patrick Moynihan. I guess you must be very young.

[Akakoji]

28. Absolutely

That’s just four of many though!

[SocialDemocrat61]

30. I forgot to add Joe Biden

[karynnj]

14. I doubt her endorsement would change many votes

In the primary, many prominent Democrats, including Bill Clinton endorsed Cuomo. Yet at the very time these endorsements piled up, Mamdani was surging ..... and I don't credit Bernie and AOC, though I think their endorsements might have helped.

Obviously, Clinton is a bigger deal in Democratic politics, but Cuomo is a completely known former governor and Clinton could not mitigate Cuomo's biggest negative. on the other hand, Mamdani 's biggest problems were his position on Israel and that he was inexperienced. For him, getting endorsements could reassure people interested, but not sure he is ready.

As to Gillibrand, I think an endorsement of either Cuomo or Adams hurts her own reputation.

[SocialDemocrat61]

20. That was a problem for Cuomo

People knew who he was. 😉

[karynnj]

22. Yep, and well enough that they don't care what anyone else thonks

[Torchlight]

16. I'm certain she and her office will support the nominee

Myabe there's evidence out there to the contrary, but I'm quite certain she'll support Mamdani.

[ARandomPerson]

17. Did Mamdani support Kamala Harris?

[ARandomPerson]

21. If he didn't, then he doesn't deserve support from other Democrats.

[Daveigh]

31. ChatGPT says he did NOT support Harris

Take it for what it’s worth …

Zohran Mamdani, a democratic socialist and New York City mayoral candidate, did not support Kamala Harris during her 2024 presidential campaign. Mamdani's campaign and political stance, particularly his criticism of Harris' position on the Israel-Hamas war, aligned with sentiments from younger, left-leaning voters who expressed hostility toward her. Posts [on social media] further suggest that Mamdani actively campaigned against Harris, with some claiming he encouraged supporters to abstain from voting for her or to vote third-party as part of the "Uncommitted Movement".

[vanessa_ca]

18. It doesn't matter. People like her have shown their true colors.

At most they'll give Mamdani tepid support while stabbing him in the back over his position of Middle East foreign affairs. They wanted to talk all that shit about Trump and his accusations of sexual assault and his treatment of women then they put their support behind Cuomo. It’s hard to put into words how fucking embarrassing and disgusting that is. What did they really expect?

Once someone has shown you who they are, believe them. Believe them the first time.

The establishment genuinely seems more upset by Mamdani than by Trump. Baffling.

[rzemanfl]

26. Knees had nothing to do with it.

She was a jerk who thought she’d run for President.

[Akakoji]

27. I hope so. Hes the only one with any chance of winning citywide.

And your scurrilous and unfounded attack on a Democrat is unwelcome here.

[RandiFan1290]

32. Hope they don't back a 3rd party spoiler candidate like the 2010 Florida Senate race.

Charlie Crist ran a 3rd party spoiler campaign and helped elect Marco Rubio.