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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome in Michigan's sizable Arab American community feeling 'buyer's remorse' with Trump
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dflprincess
(28,890 posts)They brought it on themselves.
SamKnause
(14,336 posts)godsentme
(148 posts)I remember comments from some leaders saying they were teaching a lesson to Kamala and democrats.
Initech
(105,459 posts)Fuck Jill Stein.
MustLoveBeagles
(13,421 posts)
Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)They thought they'd teach Democrats a lesson by voting for Taco? Seriously? What IS that?
Well, they did it. And here we are. Lots of lessons being learned, I guess.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,205 posts)OnDoutside
(20,849 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(13,421 posts)However voting for the fascist to spite Joe & Kamala was just plain dumb. That did nothing to help their cause and everything to hurt it.
Initech
(105,459 posts)
sheshe2
(92,667 posts)snip
Civil rights attorney Andrew C. Laufer sarcastically wrote, "That's an amazing stance @RashidaTlaib. Have your supporters not vote or vote for the guy who will deport them. Just an amazing position."
snip
A coalition of Muslim Americans in critical swing states, including Michigan, launched a #AbandonBiden campaign late last year, urging voters to not reelect the president in 2024.
https://www.newsweek.com/rashida-tlaib-slammed-urging-voters-withhold-support-joe-biden-1871006
LisaM
(29,274 posts)She went to Michigan specifically to work against Harris. She apparently had already caused enough harm in Seattle. She's a horrible person.
OnDoutside
(20,849 posts)Takket
(23,034 posts)most of them at the urging of their community leaders.
Cha
(312,539 posts)actively Voting Against Kamala .. and the Mayor of Dearborn told us ".. to enjoy Traitor".. I won't write the name.
No Fucking Clue who the Fat Racist, Rapist, Traitor was, eh? Found out the fucking hard way.. When We Warned you
They Assisted Screwing It Up for the World
What did they think Traitor was going to Do? The big fuck actually advertised what he had in mind for Gaza.
EllieBC
(3,487 posts)the rights of women and LGBTQ. Look at that suburb of Detroit. One of the first things the mostly Muslim council and mayor did was ban Pride. They used their concern for the ME as an excuse to support someone who hates the gays maybe more than they do.
LisaM
(29,274 posts)It's always been an immigrant community, and is historically Polish. A large number of people feel betrayed by the anti-gay city council, I hope they can vote these jerks out.
EllieBC
(3,487 posts)More liberal people who thought they were doing the right thing supporting diverse candidates. Maybe just find out where those candidates stand next time is the lesson here.
Abolishinist
(2,622 posts)EllieBC
(3,487 posts)discussions on other parts of the internet when it came out that Norway had to start giving cultural coding classes to new immigrants. Basically it was: women here can dress how they like and work and date and no you cant rape them.
The amount of whataboutism was astronomical.
sheshe2
(92,667 posts)They should have thought about that when they had the chance.
I have never been a single issue voter, that would be selfish of me.
WE not ME.
Cha
(312,539 posts)out they also are not big on LGBTQ & Women's Rights.
Two Issues Dems Care About. AS Well as the Whole Beautiful World.
EllieBC
(3,487 posts)Dems thought they could welcome everyone into the tent and everyone would try to get along. We thought that during Ws bullshit wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that Muslim Americans would be happy to be welcomed.
Maybe should have reminded them we also care a lot about the rights of women and the LGBTQ community.
Cha
(312,539 posts)Voting against Destroying Gaza, the USA, and the World is more Important Than Voting against People who can Love whom they want and Women's Rights.
Mahalo, EllieBC
sheshe2
(92,667 posts)It is about We The People.
When one rises more will follow
Pass it on.
They are one person
They are two alone
They are three together
They are for each other
-Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
Cha
(312,539 posts)I get Verklempt when I hear or read about a simple act of Human Kindness.
Mahalo, she
Love Crosby Stills Nash and Young.
B.See
(5,723 posts)And it wasn't as though he lied to them about his intent. The fkr TOLD them up front who and what he is... joked about beachfront condos in Gaza.
So once again, PEOPLE, of various nations, become fodder: sacrificial lambs in the power plays of deal makers, deal breakers, and despots.
Where will it end?
Cha
(312,539 posts)Insightful Post, B.See.



Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)I'll never understand the logic behind that assholery.
Intractable
(1,120 posts)They were deeply angry, and it blinded them to the probability that Trump would be worse.
Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)
AloeVera
(3,159 posts)Anger of course, blinding howling anger but also a sense of abandonment and betrayal. Not being seen or heard.
These people were in pain. Hurt people hurt people as it's said. They do stupid things because they are not engaging their brain.
Thanks. I so rarely see a comment that acknowledges the basic truth that "these people" are only human.
Aristus
(70,298 posts)in his first term?
I wish I could say I had some sympathy for you guys. But shit! That is some Jethro Clampett-level stupidity there. Sucks to be you
Four years of seeing exactly who he was, culminating in a violent attack on Congress to try and stay in power, and they thought bringing him back would teach the Democrats a lesson?
Chasstev365
(5,671 posts)* Trump first tried to ban Muslims from the US
* Netanyahu disrespected Obama, Biden, and Harris but praised Trump
* Trump never said anything about helping Palestinians
* Trump took bribes from Egypt
* Many rightly hated the repressive regime of the Shah of Iran, but didn't have an issue with Trump's buddy buddy relationship with the horrific, murderous Saudis Royal family, including LIV golf corruption and giving $2 Billion to son in law Jared Kushner.
But you just couldn't vote for the Black woman.
You reap what you sow, Arab American community of Michigan.
Demovictory9
(36,514 posts)NickB79
(19,959 posts)Not a chance that men who keep their women in burkas are going to vote for one to be their President.
David__77
(24,262 posts)Chasstev365
(5,671 posts)Meanwhile, 21% voted for President-elect Donald Trump, and 20% voted for Vice President Kamala Harris.
https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-exit-poll-of-muslim-voters-reveals-surge-in-support-for-jill-stein-and-donald-trump-steep-decline-for-harris
Mr. Evil
(3,333 posts)
Norbert
(7,130 posts)lied about losing his reelection.
And now they are surprised when his 2024 election turned out to be a pack of lies.
Spare me the crying please.
Mountainguy
(2,117 posts)He was pretty open about his plans to attack the Muslim community.
newdeal2
(3,159 posts)I dont know what more they have to see before he loses their vote.
Marie Marie
(10,271 posts)Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
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Arazi
(8,076 posts)The Genocide Joe /Killer Kamala thing stank of a Russian op. It sucks they were so gullible
EllieBC
(3,487 posts)Because thats what it is. They supported him because they are socially conservative.
LonePirate
(14,123 posts)Jack Valentino
(2,601 posts)Would have been more helpful for their community and the country,
if they could have anticipated that from the candidate's own statements,
before the election....
littlemissmartypants
(28,320 posts)Capt. America
(2,505 posts)Aussie105
(7,078 posts)They thought Trump would make their lives more significant, heal all their emotional wounds, redress all the wrongs they had suffered, and pave the roads with gold.
Instead they got royally shafted.
Those voters are now in the Find Out stage; they got duped and lied to.
Do those deluded people deserve our sympathy?
Yes/no/it doesn't matter?
I'm in the 'no' camp, pain is a learning and behavior modifying experience after all.
Norrrm
(2,138 posts)JHB
(37,756 posts)Empathy, yes. Sympathy, no. You voted for this.
usonian
(18,721 posts)I haven't made a new FAFO flag in a very long time.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219770873
New one called for? I believe that I stayed away from Arab and Israeli issues in the series.
SoFlaBro
(3,509 posts)Dan
(4,788 posts)The GOP may deport all of them. I don't care.
Buns_of_Fire
(18,583 posts)Pick one side of the goddam hyphen and stick with it.
Vogon_Glory
(9,940 posts)I can understand their anger over Netanyahus erhnic cleansing campaigns in Gaza and the West Bank, but theyll get to endure what Donald John and the Republican Parts does to all of us as well as the vicious and cruel special xenophobic treats Donald John and the Republican Party has in store especially for them.
Captain Zero
(8,060 posts)Fucking they get.
Fuck all of them.
MrWowWow
(524 posts)Experience is a dear school, but a fool will learn in no other.
-Benjamin Franklin
GoCubsGo
(33,990 posts)The whole goddamn lot of them should be overwhelmed with regret. "Buyer's remorse"? Y'all need to fucking own this.
dlilafae
(218 posts)Your fellow Americans were telling you it was a bad choice.
edhopper
(36,250 posts)I hope they are so, so happy they made their point and now can rejoice that they sure showed them.
Tribetime
(6,681 posts)Who refused to endorse Harris...I wont forgive that
republianmushroom
(20,449 posts)Live and learn.