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LiberalArkie

(18,451 posts)
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 02:13 PM Saturday

If we ever get control of government again, Homeland Security needs to be desolved and put back like it was before

the proto-facist George Bush created it. Border Control needs to go back to Treasury Dept along with Coast Guard. Secret Service needs to go back to Treasury Dept. And all the others also.
Have all the gun toters under one person is asking for trouble. Ie Noem.

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If we ever get control of government again, Homeland Security needs to be desolved and put back like it was before (Original Post) LiberalArkie Saturday OP
It should never have been created in the first place. live love laugh Saturday #1
Looking back, Bush created it for the purpose it is serving today. One persons whim, no other organization to counter it LiberalArkie Saturday #2
Yep. live love laugh Saturday #7
INS was split into three agencies, for some reason ... not even clear what one of them does. eppur_se_muova Saturday #3
USCIS is the department that processes applications and other paperwork required by alwaysinasnit Saturday #12
And homeland, the word, just seems so Naziish NoRethugFriends Saturday #4
Fatherland is more Naziish. Kaleva Saturday #6
See below NoRethugFriends Saturday #10
Some info Kaleva Saturday #13
RIGHT!!! elleng Saturday #5
All under one person is the main thing. LiberalArkie Saturday #8
ICE, FBI should be added to the dissolved list. nt ImNotGod Saturday #9
I think the FBI would be okay once everything else is gone from the DOJ. So that the DOJ is indeed the LiberalArkie Saturday #11
We should repeal both the Patriot Act and the Homeland Security Act. pecosbob Saturday #14
Well, there's good news (heavy sarcasm) Chellee Saturday #15

LiberalArkie

(18,451 posts)
2. Looking back, Bush created it for the purpose it is serving today. One persons whim, no other organization to counter it
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 02:20 PM
Saturday

EXCEPT the U.S. Military.

eppur_se_muova

(39,188 posts)
3. INS was split into three agencies, for some reason ... not even clear what one of them does.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 02:33 PM
Saturday

Referred to by some as former INS[2] and by others as legacy INS, the agency ceased to exist under that name on March 1, 2003, when most of its functions were transferred to three new entities – United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) – within the newly created United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS), as part of a major government reorganization following the September 11 attacks of 2001.

Why USCIS ?? What does it do that's not done by the other two ?

The titles seem to have a lot of redundancy, repetitiveness, unnecessary verbiage and redundancy in them.

ICE needs to be not just gutted, but 'disappeared' -- no one who worked there should ever be allowed to hold a gov't job again (except maybe some office staff).

alwaysinasnit

(5,435 posts)
12. USCIS is the department that processes applications and other paperwork required by
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 04:03 PM
Saturday

immigration courts.

NoRethugFriends

(3,399 posts)
10. See below
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:44 PM
Saturday
https://truthout.org/articles/time-for-the-us-to-dump-the-word-homeland/

Original German NSDAP (NAZI PARTY) Third Reich Period “Our Motto Is Homeland” Badge Certified. A Third Reich period “Parole Heimat – Reserve hat ruh” (Our ...
$69.00

Kaleva

(39,556 posts)
13. Some info
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 04:47 PM
Saturday

“One more explanation: Fatherland was a nationalistic term used in Nazi Germany to unite Germany in the culture and traditions of ancient Germany.“

“As for the gender-neutral "homeland," it first appeared in U.S. English in "Webster's Eighth Collegiate Dictionary'' in 1973“

https://www.azcentral.com/story/claythompson/2015/02/10/words-nations-male-female-culture-history/23178367/

LiberalArkie

(18,451 posts)
11. I think the FBI would be okay once everything else is gone from the DOJ. So that the DOJ is indeed the
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 04:02 PM
Saturday

Department of Justice. Once the FBI goes back to hiring college graduates majoring in criminal justice.

Chellee

(2,251 posts)
15. Well, there's good news (heavy sarcasm)
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 05:14 PM
Saturday

The Nuclear Incident Response Team, The Domestic Emergency Support Team, and The Center for Domestic Preparedness are all part of FEMA. Which he is phasing out. What could possibly go wrong? I mean, in case of a nuclear incident or terrorist attack why would we need people who know what they're doing? This sounds like something that could lead to fewer tax cuts for the wealthy, and we can't have that!

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