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FarPoint

(14,062 posts)
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:29 AM Jun 21

Help: True or False...Maga talking point or True?

" Accused assassin Vance Boelter blames Gov. Tim Walz for murderous rampage: "

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Joseph M. Hanneman
June 20, 2025

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Gov. Walz appointed Boelter to a state workforce development commission for a term that ended in 2023. Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton appointed Boelter to a similar commission in 2016 for a two-year term..... end>

https://www.theblaze.com/news/accused-assassin-vance-boelter-blames-gov-tim-walz-for-murderous-rampage-report?sfnsn=mo&fbclid=IwY2xjawLDnyBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFkampkNGNvNVB1YTh0UGRZAR5NJcrLfqzQEkP6jlBu5cTwR4CnEEsamkvjlY0jehi-ctmsOaWr3NWsfoI7fg_aem_YC_FF7Ew286Fx6KESQCDjw

A right wing co-worker pushing their spew of lies but I'm unable to determine if this is a truth... thanks for any help....

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Help: True or False...Maga talking point or True? (Original Post) FarPoint Jun 21 OP
The Blaze is a right wing propaganda media company started by Glenn Beck AZProgressive Jun 21 #1
And the Blaze article says it was reported by Alpha News Wiz Imp Jun 21 #15
I never heard of Alpha either. FarPoint Jun 21 #21
Overall, we rate Alpha News Questionable based on extreme right bias, poor sourcing of information, promotion of Celerity Jun 21 #34
I'd never heard of Alpha News either, but found them immediately suspicious when they were being Wiz Imp Jun 21 #35
Come on. Does this sound like the Tim Walz? We got to know not at all. Walleye Jun 21 #2
I get it..... FarPoint Jun 21 #13
It is getting frustrating with all the outright lies Walleye Jun 21 #20
The point of this is just to link Boelter to Walz in one sentence underpants Jun 21 #19
Oh, I know, but Maga will believe anything bad about us. It's who they are. Walleye Jun 21 #22
Where's the manifesto?!? It's a coverup!!! underpants Jun 21 #25
Because of this... FarPoint Jun 21 #23
They claim he blamed Walz, yet completely dodge details. blm Jun 21 #3
Wife interrogated, says they are doomsday preppers. blm Jun 21 #7
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 21 #33
Yes, that is exactly what they are doing... FarPoint Jun 21 #14
The propagandist's headline doesn't match the reporting blm Jun 21 #17
Remember how they jumped on the Paul Pelosi attack and twisted it disgustingly Walleye Jun 21 #24
Here. It's true but means little. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 21 #4
Edit your title, because it's wrong. W_HAMILTON Jun 21 #8
Thank you soooooo much.... FarPoint Jun 21 #9
We gain nothing by denying the truth. crim son Jun 21 #18
Weird, this guy was on a workforce board, but Captain Zero Jun 21 #27
The Blaze is nothing but rightwing disinformation and lies. J_William_Ryan Jun 21 #5
Thanks for the details... FarPoint Jun 21 #10
It's true that Boelter served on the workforce development commission, but Ocelot II Jun 21 #6
Yes his resume is padded and sketchy! Captain Zero Jun 21 #28
If that rightwing assassin blamed Walz, you can be damn sure that you wouldn't have to dredge up news from MAGA media... W_HAMILTON Jun 21 #11
Who cares and so what? But, no. That didn't happen. But this did ... marble falls Jun 21 #12
I don't know if it's true. Buuuuut..... Happy Hoosier Jun 21 #16
Lying is not beyond him, his resume is a fraud Captain Zero Jun 21 #29
So csusan Jun 21 #26
If a MAGAt said it, you know it is a lie. mercuryblues Jun 21 #30
Still? The GOP said that stillcool Jun 21 #31
Glad to see that your tread stands. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 21 #32
It seems you are asking two separate questions Kaleva Jun 21 #36

AZProgressive

(29,671 posts)
1. The Blaze is a right wing propaganda media company started by Glenn Beck
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:35 AM
Jun 21

I would take anything they report with a grain of salt.

What I do know is the position he was appointed to was non-partisan or not political in anyway but that is all I know.

Wiz Imp

(5,670 posts)
15. And the Blaze article says it was reported by Alpha News
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:29 AM
Jun 21

Alpha News is a Far Right biased "news" organization which reports on Minnesota. Definitely not to be trusted.

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/alpha-news/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/alpha-news-media-bias

FarPoint

(14,062 posts)
21. I never heard of Alpha either.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 12:20 PM
Jun 21

Good detail to know ... I never heard of Blaze either.... I'm getting great supporting facts from DU'er...

Celerity

(50,622 posts)
34. Overall, we rate Alpha News Questionable based on extreme right bias, poor sourcing of information, promotion of
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jun 21
conspiracy theories, and anti-Islamic propaganda, as well as a lack of transparency regarding ownership.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/alpha-news/



Wiz Imp

(5,670 posts)
35. I'd never heard of Alpha News either, but found them immediately suspicious when they were being
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 04:23 PM
Jun 21

quoted by the Blaze (I knew the Blaze was founded by Glenn Beck). AllSides Media gives Alpha News a further right wing score than even Fox News and Newsmax - the 2 most viewed right wing websites.

Walleye

(41,267 posts)
2. Come on. Does this sound like the Tim Walz? We got to know not at all.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:35 AM
Jun 21

People need to use their instincts and good sense when trying to determine the truth. Does anybody really think Tim Walz wanted a senator out-of-the-way so he could run for her job? John Hinckley said Jody Foster told him to shoot Reagan or something like that. These political assassins are generally delusional

FarPoint

(14,062 posts)
13. I get it.....
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jun 21

I just needed some help with clarifying the truth.... DU is always here with calming logic..... thankful Ihave such friends...

underpants

(191,217 posts)
19. The point of this is just to link Boelter to Walz in one sentence
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:56 AM
Jun 21

Repeat repeat repeat

Their social media influencers immediately began painting this murder as a Democrat. It’s still considered fact or planted and nourished enough to take root.

We all know who and what Boelter is but they jumped on this from the get go. Sen. Lee’s tweets are derivative of this. Just keep the two linked for the gullible to buy.

underpants

(191,217 posts)
25. Where's the manifesto?!? It's a coverup!!!
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 02:36 PM
Jun 21

That’s the new one. As if it will reveal all their water muddying and it NOT being released confirms their suspicions. 🙄

Obviously, law enforcement could be using the manifesto for leads to other things. Also, from what we know of this murderer any manifesto he might have written isn’t going to point to anything other than how wackos MAGA he is.

FarPoint

(14,062 posts)
23. Because of this...
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jun 21

I found it important to seek out our supporting facts...Co worker Maga is getting under my skin. Thank you guys

blm

(114,194 posts)
3. They claim he blamed Walz, yet completely dodge details.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:38 AM
Jun 21

Blame Walz for shooting Democrats? This is pure propaganda, written to mislead careless readers.

blm

(114,194 posts)
7. Wife interrogated, says they are doomsday preppers.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:47 AM
Jun 21

"During an interview, Boelter’s wife identified that she had recently received a group text message from Boelter in a group text thread with their kids," FBI Special Agent Terry Getsch wrote. "The text stated something to the effect of they should prepare for war, they needed to get out of the house and people with guns may be showing up to the house."

H2O Man

(77,131 posts)
33. Thank you.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:38 PM
Jun 21

Anyone interested in actual true things can -- with patience -- find out. In this case, it might have been obvious the make of this man, including why he did this. That he has at least a small network of mentally damaged associates. Let us hope that the current DOJ try to sidetrack the current FBI investigation.

FarPoint

(14,062 posts)
14. Yes, that is exactly what they are doing...
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:26 AM
Jun 21

the Maga minions are so very irresponsible and thus clueless....then in turn can be hateful with spewing such trash.... DU'er help me effectively deflect such trash....

blm

(114,194 posts)
17. The propagandist's headline doesn't match the reporting
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:35 AM
Jun 21

of the few facts contained in the article.

Walleye

(41,267 posts)
24. Remember how they jumped on the Paul Pelosi attack and twisted it disgustingly
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 12:24 PM
Jun 21

They all still say that. Who can tell what they actually believe? They just mouth what they’re supposed to. They need to prove that they’re in the cult.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,193 posts)
4. Here. It's true but means little.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:39 AM
Jun 21
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/minnesota/news/vance-boelter-melissa-hortman-assassination-tim-walz-connection-minnesota/

About six years ago, Boelter was appointed to the Minnesota Governor's Workforce Development Board by Democratic Gov. Tim Walz. But what exactly does being appointed to that board mean?

State records show Boelter served two consecutive three-year terms on the development board, first appointed by then-Gov. Mark Dayton in 2016. Three years later, Walz reappointed him.

A spokesperson for Walz's office gave this statement to WCCO on Tuesday:

"There are thousands of volunteers of all political persuasions who serve on hundreds of these boards. That particular board has over 60 people on it. The Governor does not interview applicants for these roles and he does not know Boelter. They are not appointments to a position in the Governor's cabinet. These boards and commissions have no authority to make decisions, change laws, or implement policies."

According to the development board's website, it "represents key leaders from business, education, labor, community-based organizations, and government," with the board providing "a venue for workforce stakeholders building on a shared vision and mission."

W_HAMILTON

(9,238 posts)
8. Edit your title, because it's wrong.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:52 AM
Jun 21

The OP was questioning the claim: " Accused assassin Vance Boelter blames Gov. Tim Walz for murderous rampage: ""

Nowhere in your article does it back this up, yet your post title says "Here. It's true..."

No, it's not true.

FarPoint

(14,062 posts)
9. Thank you soooooo much....
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jun 21

sighting such excellent articles and fact checking is how we can educate the maga cult....well it's a start.... helps me greatly....

crim son

(27,547 posts)
18. We gain nothing by denying the truth.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:35 AM
Jun 21

I have always had a problem with how the pro-choice community has made an effort to base its argument on suggesting that a zygote or fetus is not a human life. Of course it is, but that is entirely beside the point. Similarly, if Boelter had been employed by Waltz at some point, it is irrelevant, given what we now know about his state of mind at the time of the murders.

Captain Zero

(8,060 posts)
27. Weird, this guy was on a workforce board, but
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jun 21

He didn't really seem to have a job, since I read he was on LinkedIn looking for one, yet he had land, property, expensive vehicles tricked out as LEO, guns, a resume written to make him seem substantial, but then "roommates" at another location who all appear to work in food service and one report I read said HE worked in food service? That's a lot of non-aligning profile. I am going to guess he or his wife, maybe both, came into some money from an estate(s) at some point in the last ten years.

J_William_Ryan

(2,834 posts)
5. The Blaze is nothing but rightwing disinformation and lies.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:39 AM
Jun 21

You’re unable to determine if it’s true because it isn’t – it’s a lie; that’s why you can’t find anything from a reliable source.

FarPoint

(14,062 posts)
10. Thanks for the details...
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:55 AM
Jun 21

I never heard of the Blaze.... I was definitely suspicious...thus I posted a question....

Ocelot II

(125,662 posts)
6. It's true that Boelter served on the workforce development commission, but
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:42 AM
Jun 21

members of that and other state commissions (there are more than 200 of them) are unpaid volunteers. You get to be a member by filling out a form and sending it in; you're "appointed" by the governor only in the sense that he signs the paperwork. Commission members are not interviewed or specifically chosen by a governor; these are advisory committees that meet - maybe as seldom as once a year - with the legislator assigned to the commission. These are not real government "jobs" at all. The governor does not get directly involved with the commissions and you probably will never meet him at all. https://www.sos.mn.gov/boards-commissions/ Boelter probably would have volunteered for the commission just in order to pad his rather sketchy resume and it's very doubtful that he ever met either Dayton or Walz.

W_HAMILTON

(9,238 posts)
11. If that rightwing assassin blamed Walz, you can be damn sure that you wouldn't have to dredge up news from MAGA media...
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:56 AM
Jun 21

...because the corporate, Republican-biased mainstream media would have already been breathlessly reporting on it like they do any and all stories that paint Democrats in a negative light.

marble falls

(66,654 posts)
12. Who cares and so what? But, no. That didn't happen. But this did ...
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jun 21
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/minnesota-lawmakers-shot-walz/

Walz once appointed Minnesota shooting suspect to advisory board. Here's context

Vance Boelter was appointed to a nonpartisan advisory board by two successive Minnesota governors.

Anna Rascouët-Paz
Published June 16, 2025

Claim:
Vance Boelter, accused of shooting two Democratic Minnesota state lawmakers and their spouses in June 2025 (one couple died), was once appointed to an advisory board by Democratic Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz.
Rating:
True
True

About this rating

Context

Because Boelter was originally appointed to the board in 2016 by former Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton, Walz actually reappointed him in 2019 for a second term, which ended in January 2023. Boelter is reportedly not a Democrat himself, and Walz's office confirmed that the governor does not meet with prospective appointees prior to appointing them.

In mid-June 2025, a rumor began to spread that Vance Boelter, the accused shooter of two Minnesota Democratic state lawmakers and their spouses on June 14, had once been appointed a member of the Governor's Workforce Development Board by Democratic Gov. Tim Walz. One of the targeted couples died.

For example, this post on Facebook criticized the authorities for not releasing the alleged assassin's supposed manifesto and speculated the reason they hadn't was because Walz had political ties to Boelter (archived):

The post read:

Boelter, a former appointee of Democrat Governors Dayton and Walz to the Workforce Development Board, has ties to evangelical groups and a security firm. Is this a deep-state cover-up to protect their own? We demand transparency—RELEASE THE MANIFESTO NOW!

The post had gained 4,600 reactions and 1,300 reshares as of this writing. Many of the commenters took it to mean Walz was an accomplice in the killings. "Five bucks says Walz is directly implicated," one said. The claim appeared on other Facebook posts. Further, Snopes readers searched the site seeking to verify this information.

Indeed, Boelter, 57, sat as a member of the Governor's Workforce Development Board. A Dec. 9, 2019, news release (archived) from Walz's office announced a list of appointees to the board, and Boelter was one of them. His appointment was set to end on Jan. 2, 2023. The most recent board meeting minutes Snopes could find that included his name were from Oct. 26, 2022. Walz replaced him on the board with someone else in March 2023.

However, Boelter's 2019 appointment by Walz was reportedly a reappointment. Boelter was first appointed in 2016 by former Gov. Mark Dayton (like Walz, a Democrat), according to The Minnesota Star Tribune. Dayton was elected in 2011 and left office in 2019, when Walz took over. The Daily Beast shared an appointment letter signed by Walz that was archived on the state of Minnesota's website.

Snopes contacted the Governor's Workforce Development Board staff, which declined to comment. A spokesperson for Walz's office replied, providing more context regarding the board appointments (more on this later). Workforce Development Boards exist across localities in the U.S. Their role is to cultivate talent, linking it to economic growth, and to develop strategic plans to set funding priorities. For example, they might advise on training for a local workforce to meet the needs of companies investing locally.

The Star Tribune further reported, citing an unnamed board member, that while Boelter served as the appointee of two successive Democratic governors, the board is bipartisan. The Minnesota Star Tribune reported in another article that Boelter had registered to vote as a Republican and, citing his roommate David Carlson, that he had last voted for U.S. President Donald Trump, a Republican. It also appeared, according to various reports, that Boelter was an evangelical Christian and staunchly opposed to abortion.

In addition, according to the Star Tribune, while it's true Walz had reappointed Boelter to the board, he did not know him personally, according to an unnamed source in Walz's office (a detail Snopes has not independently verified).

The governor's office is in charge of appointing hundreds of people to various advisory boards and commissions. Snopes found the Workforce Development Board included 58 members as of this writing. These various boards do not have the power to legislate.

"These are unpaid, nonpartisan, external boards that the legislature creates and the Governor does not interview applicants for," the spokesperson for Walz said in an emailed statement. "They are not appointments to a position in the Governor's cabinet. They also have no authority to make decisions, change laws, or implement policies."

Happy Hoosier

(8,984 posts)
16. I don't know if it's true. Buuuuut.....
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jun 21

So what if it is? Dude murdered 2 people. You thinking lying is beyond him?

Captain Zero

(8,060 posts)
29. Lying is not beyond him, his resume is a fraud
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jun 21

Couched in general terms.
Especially the Security firm BULLSh**.

csusan

(45 posts)
26. So
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 02:45 PM
Jun 21

What the heck difference does it make. We know what he's like now thats the important information.

mercuryblues

(15,697 posts)
30. If a MAGAt said it, you know it is a lie.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:25 PM
Jun 21

1st off, Boelter was REappointed to the board. There are dozens of these boards. Hundreds of appointments every year, which is vetted by staff, then recommended to the Gov. Walz probably never met him. Some boards 0nly meet 1 time a year some more. It is not a daily job. As a matter of fact, it is not a job at all, it is a voluntary, unpaid position.

Boetler QUIT his real jobs because he and a friend started a security company in Africa. That buisness endeavor tanked before it ever got off the ground. But he had all the tactical gear he needed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/vance-boelter-melissa-hortman-assassination-tim-walz-connection-minnesota/

https://www.opb.org/article/2025/06/15/suspect-in-minnesota-political-shootings-had-fantasy-career-in-security/




stillcool

(34,370 posts)
31. Still? The GOP said that
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jun 21

the day of. Got the talking points down, but too late. Although, the GOP does like to rinse and repeat, regardless of how many times their pitch is shot down. So much noise.

Kaleva

(39,595 posts)
36. It seems you are asking two separate questions
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 04:37 PM
Jun 21

Blaming Walz and Walz and Dayton appointing him to a state work force. Which one are you asking about?

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