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garybeck

(10,053 posts)
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 12:13 AM Yesterday

Press release from Election Truth Alliance

https://electiontruthalliance.org/

Press release from Election Truth Alliance
June 17, 2025 -
A leading expert in election forensics, Dr. Walter Mebane, Jr. of the
University of Michigan, has found statistical evidence of vote manipulation in the 2024
U.S. election. His working report analyzing the 2024 Pennsylvania election results
corroborates the findings of Election Truth Alliance’s (ETA), a non-partisan nonprofit
that recently shared an analysis of election results in three counties in Pennsylvania.
Dr. Mebane states in his Pennsylvania analysis that it is possible that “the election was
decided or nearly decided by malevolent distortions of electors’ intentions”.
Mebane is recognized internationally as a leading authority on election fraud
detection, and his analysis of Pennsylvania employed his independent “eforensics”
model. This model has been validated in professional scientific publications and has
been used to evaluate the integrity of elections in countries such as Venezuela,
Turkey, and Kenya.
Mebane’s analysis examines 7,040,360 votes across 67 Pennsylvania counties. The
eforensics model estimates that between 25,000 and 225,440 votes in the Presidential
race were possibly fraudulent. The range is due to Dr. Mebane applying several
different forensic models in completing his evaluation.
The ETA recently conducted an independent analysis of election results from three
Pennsylvania counties: Philadelphia County, Allegheny County (which contains
Pittsburgh), and Erie County. Their analysis identified patterns consistent with vote
manipulation in all three counties, particularly in election day voting result data.
Working with Pennsylvania residents, the ETA has submitted ballot inspection
requests in several counties across the state. The organization has also requested a
meeting with the Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth, Al Schmidt, in their
continued pursuit of a hand audits of paper voting records from the 2024 U.S. General
election.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Election Forensics Expert Finds
Vote Manipulation Concerns in Pennsylvania
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Press release from Election Truth Alliance (Original Post) garybeck Yesterday OP
I'm reserving judgement until the CyberNinjas weigh in Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #1
I'm sure many of the people on this forum have and will at least, try to be scientific in their findings. chouchou Yesterday #2
aw, c'mon NJCher Yesterday #9
aw, c'mon NJCher Yesterday #10
I'm sure he can do all the fancy-wancy papers and stuff but, can he do the roly-poly break dance? chouchou Yesterday #16
between 25 thousand, and 225 thousand. Well, there you have it ! stopdiggin Yesterday #3
"were possibly fraudulent" krkaufman Yesterday #4
but we now have 'modeling' ! stopdiggin Yesterday #5
It's a concept of an idea. Permanut Yesterday #7
you are aware NJCher Yesterday #12
K & R canetoad Yesterday #6
Dr. Mebane only has NJCher Yesterday #8
Like others upthread canetoad Yesterday #11
well surely NJCher Yesterday #13
It's worth a shot. I believe they rigged it and rigged the rigging. BurnDoubt Yesterday #14
Or we could always gaze at our navels and wait for the lights to go out in our Democracy. BurnDoubt Yesterday #15
It's not the NY Times but the press is starting to notice NJCher Yesterday #17
2000? czarjak Yesterday #18

Fiendish Thingy

(19,658 posts)
1. I'm reserving judgement until the CyberNinjas weigh in
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 12:19 AM
Yesterday

Until then, I consider this Kooky CT nonsense.

I refuse to resign my membership in the reality-based community.

chouchou

(2,009 posts)
2. I'm sure many of the people on this forum have and will at least, try to be scientific in their findings.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 01:09 AM
Yesterday

I find it fascinating and personally, would like to find that persons actually cheated, regarding the election.
But, the truth is the standard.

NJCher

(40,448 posts)
9. aw, c'mon
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:00 AM
Yesterday

would you believe a guy who has spent a good part of his life writing papers like this?

https://websites.umich.edu/~wmebane/

I mean, really, look at some of this stuff:

Mebane, Walter R., Jr. 2008. `` Election Forensics: Outlier and Digit Tests in America and Russia (pdf); (postscript)'' Prepared for presentation at The American Electoral Process conference, Center for the Study of Democratic Politics, Princeton University, May 1-3, 2008.

Princeton: scoff. I'm hangin' on to my membership in the "reality" based community.

Or what about this nonsense?

Mebane, Walter R., Jr. 2013. `` Using Vote Counts' Digits to Diagnose Strategies and Frauds: Russia'' Prepared for presentation at the 2013 Annual Meeting of the American Political Science Association, Chicago, IL, August 29--September 1.

Russia! Hah. What's that got to do with anything. Come down to earth, Dr. Mebane.

NJCher

(40,448 posts)
10. aw, c'mon
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:01 AM
Yesterday

would you believe a guy who has spent a good part of his life writing papers like this?

https://websites.umich.edu/~wmebane/

I mean, really, look at some of this stuff:

Mebane, Walter R., Jr. 2008. `` Election Forensics: Outlier and Digit Tests in America and Russia (pdf); (postscript)'' Prepared for presentation at The American Electoral Process conference, Center for the Study of Democratic Politics, Princeton University, May 1-3, 2008.

Princeton: scoff. I'm hangin' on to my membership in the "reality" based community.

Or what about this nonsense?

Mebane, Walter R., Jr. 2013. `` Using Vote Counts' Digits to Diagnose Strategies and Frauds: Russia'' Prepared for presentation at the 2013 Annual Meeting of the American Political Science Association, Chicago, IL, August 29--September 1.

Russia! Hah. What's that got to do with anything. Come down to earth, Dr. Mebane.

chouchou

(2,009 posts)
16. I'm sure he can do all the fancy-wancy papers and stuff but, can he do the roly-poly break dance?
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:27 AM
Yesterday

Ha! I thought not!

stopdiggin

(13,933 posts)
3. between 25 thousand, and 225 thousand. Well, there you have it !
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 01:20 AM
Yesterday

Really nailing it down solid now! Getting down to brass tacks!

stopdiggin

(13,933 posts)
5. but we now have 'modeling' !
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 01:50 AM
Yesterday

that can 'perhaps' point to 'possibilities' !

I think we might be somewhat on the same page here ...

NJCher

(40,448 posts)
12. you are aware
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:02 AM
Yesterday

that academics are trained to speak in terms like that, aren't you? Aren't you?????

NJCher

(40,448 posts)
8. Dr. Mebane only has
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 02:53 AM
Yesterday

Harvard and Yale as his alma mater. The fact that he has statistically analyzed election results in Iran and Argentina is meh. Why should we believe or take into consideration anything this guy says? I'm gonna' hold on to my skepticism 'cuz I'm way smarter than he is. You know, smart like so many of the geniuses around here.

canetoad

(19,161 posts)
11. Like others upthread
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:01 AM
Yesterday

I thought it was suss as soon as it was called on election night. Nothing since then has changed my mind. :h:

NJCher

(40,448 posts)
13. well surely
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:04 AM
Yesterday

The fact that trump only told the truth that one time in his whole life, after 30,000 documented lies, makes sense. Doesn't it?

BurnDoubt

(634 posts)
14. It's worth a shot. I believe they rigged it and rigged the rigging.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:33 AM
Yesterday

They were never going to get momentum like that again for a long time. It was make-or-break time, and they definitely have form for such shenanigans... wouldn't give it a second thought.
"Tech-Bros" were in the bag for this cabal all the way, and bankrolled the campaign, buried us in Tech jargon and misinformation and hacked our Democracy.

BurnDoubt

(634 posts)
15. Or we could always gaze at our navels and wait for the lights to go out in our Democracy.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 03:36 AM
Yesterday

NJCher

(40,448 posts)
17. It's not the NY Times but the press is starting to notice
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 01:13 PM
Yesterday

snip

As Doubts Grow Over 2024 Results, Trump Spins Spotlight Back to 2020

24 hours ago

Pressure is mounting over the integrity of the 2024 election. Reports of voting-machine being altered before the election and odd results—like zero votes for Kamala Harris in a Democratic New York district—have alarmed voters and officials alike. A New York judge has even ordered a court review into whether machines recorded ballots improperly.

As mistrust over 2024 grows, many Americans say they don’t believe Donald Trump won every swing state against Harris—and now he’s trying to shift the focus back to the 2020 race.

On Truth Social Friday, he wrote: “Biden was grossly incompetent, and the 2020 election was a total FRAUD! The evidence is MASSIVE and OVERWHELMING. A Special Prosecutor must be appointed. This cannot be allowed to happen again in the United States of America! Let the work begin!”
...
Now, with questions swirling about the current vote, Trump is calling for a fresh federal inquiry into his old grievances. He says it’s not just politics—it’s a necessity to protect democracy. But critics see it as a classic distraction: When the 2024 results crack under pressure, Trump points to his familiar script from 2020.

snip

Link to article at Daily Boulder.

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