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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMAJOR BREAKING - SOMETHING VERY VERY BAD IS HAPPENING
Bad developments re Israel Iran.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-leave-g7-summit-canada-early-israel-iran-middle-east-conflict-rcna213392
"President Trump on Tuesday called for Irans unconditional surrender, cited the possibility of killing Irans supreme leader and referred to Israels war efforts with the word we all apparent suggestions that the United States could enter the war against Iran."
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/17/world/israel-iran-trump
"Trump leans toward Iran strikes after Huckabees divine exhortation"
"In the message to Trump, Huckabee described the president as the most consequential President in a century maybe ever and asserted that only ONE voice matters. HIS voice. He wrote, God spared you in Butler, PA... You did not seek this moment. This moment sought YOU!
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-858071

Ocelot II
(125,323 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(8,075 posts)Greg_In_SF
(237 posts)speculation.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)usonian
(18,399 posts)that we have to waste our allotment of time on earth slogging through
INSTEAD OF TEXT.
I hate YouTube and the culture of condensing a paragraph worth of info into 14 minutes of clicks for dicks.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)Very soon, I think.
Sorry you don't like YouTube videos.
usonian
(18,399 posts)Your posts are most appreciated!
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)
Here is some context.
Trump left G7 early, looks like he might call for US airstrikes on Iran.
"Trump leans toward Iran strikes after Huckabees divine exhortation"
"In the message to Trump, Huckabee described the president as the most consequential President in a century maybe ever and asserted that only ONE voice matters. HIS voice. He wrote, God spared you in Butler, PA... You did not seek this moment. This moment sought YOU!
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-858071
jeffreyi
(2,377 posts)The viewer can scan it and see if there's any "there" there pretty fast.
usonian
(18,399 posts)And those transcripts are unformatted.
I am sure there will be a readable transcript shortly. (from his office, I hope)
Thanks for the tip. Clickbait just drives me crazy.
Especially when I am composing a major blast!!!
Stay tuned.
MineralMan
(149,270 posts)vapor2
(2,527 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,755 posts)orangecrush
(25,094 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,755 posts)Prairie Gates
(5,265 posts)MAJOR STORY! IMPORTANT!!!
Click in: some guy in a YouTube video.
Basta!
Its headlining NBCs news page, and HuffPost.
no_hypocrisy
(51,875 posts)orangecrush
(25,094 posts)"Make Iran great again".
Quote unquote.
bucolic_frolic
(50,897 posts)orangecrush
(25,094 posts)Sent by Gawd to bring the end times
slightlv
(5,853 posts)actually believe this bullshit. And are pushing for the worst possible outcome (for everyone else). They're doing happy dances that their christ will now show up for his 2nd coming, now that the worldly lord and savior has almost started the Mideastern WWIII. Hallelujah, let the nukes fly! /sarcasm
I_UndergroundPanther
(13,104 posts)They want the world to end For it to end 3/4 of the Jewish people must die according to the Bible bullshit for jayzuzz to come back. The remnant of the Jews convert to christianity in the end They are totally itching for those nukes to fly and any destruction that can be shoehorned into fitting the end times crap they will make itfit and make sense to the evilgelicals
mvd
(65,660 posts)What is breaking? Thanks.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)Trump leaving G7, other indicators that US may become directly involved, that is, Trump starting war with no congressional approval whatsoever.
I'm not very good at summarizing, you would get a better indication from viewing.
I'm not pushing it, it's the choice of the reader.
I didnt have time for the video right then.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)"Trump leans toward Iran strikes after Huckabees divine exhortation"
"In the message to Trump, Huckabee described the president as the most consequential President in a century maybe ever and asserted that only ONE voice matters. HIS voice. He wrote, God spared you in Butler, PA... You did not seek this moment. This moment sought YOU!
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-858071
calimary
(86,676 posts)Whoring for a big-ass important new job - would be my guess.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)erronis
(20,170 posts)Jirel
(2,291 posts)inevitably leading to some YouTube time wasteage. 100% perfect way to be ignored.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)Thank you
littlemissmartypants
(28,030 posts)
Deuxcents
(22,679 posts)Renew Deal
(84,093 posts)Though Trump doesn't need the AUMF to take this action based on recent history.
Also, this guy's barber should be replaced.
LudwigPastorius
(12,688 posts)He looks like Wil Wheaton costumed to play a Miami coke dealer.
DET
(2,062 posts)
Kid Berwyn
(20,743 posts)The American people finally are starting to notice the treason.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)I think he is going to call in airstrikes on Iran
benpollard
(259 posts)Everything is transactional for Trump. If he doesn't benefit in some way, he's not interested. He'd rather be out playing golf.
littlemissmartypants
(28,030 posts)He's just a figure head, that his proxies let have the "credit" possibly for the illusion of lack of culpability. He has "immunity" after all.
But make no mistakes, President Psychopath loves blowing bodies to bits and wafting radiation filled atmosphere all over the planet.
It's always going to be the more destruction, the better with him and his ilk.
Welcome to the land of Robber Barons 2.0. Fasten your seat belts while you still have them.
If I didn't have my new delightful puppy dog, I'd probably just look for the nearest most isolated cliff to run my car off.
The ocean is closer, but I hate drowning and love sea life, especially turtles, too much.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)From his tanking polls, the protests, etc.
AloeVera
(3,012 posts)He and Netanyahu are insane. Dr. Strangelove and his side kick. Interchangeable on any given day. Don't know who is worse but I know we are ruled by evil men including that Huckabee guy shilling on behalf of Israel for Iran's destruction and salivating to bring on Armageddon. Like the snake that he is, Huckabee knew to appeal to Trump's egomania and delusions of grandeur to get what he wanted. Be very afraid....and think about the millions in Iran now terrified, their lives turned upside down, maybe forever. Who knows if we are not next??
littlemissmartypants
(28,030 posts)AloeVera
(3,012 posts)Lol.
littlemissmartypants
(28,030 posts)President Psychopath's plan is all encompassing.
That was actually my resting optimist post.
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
AloeVera
(3,012 posts)I should have gone with my first reading of your reply.
He's a psychopath alright. I used to think it was "just" narcissism or NPD. Maybe sociopath or ASD. Now I recognize the psycho traits. The darkest of the dark triad. It is truly, horribly frightening.
That is a good list to save. More and more traits are being revealed.
Resting optimist post...
littlemissmartypants
(28,030 posts)
area51
(12,342 posts)orangecrush
(25,094 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(3,137 posts)a damn lunatic.
God spared" the fugly felon in Butler, PA.????
I guess God also healed the devastating ear boo boo, too.
MineralMan
(149,270 posts)I don't recognize him at all. Sounds like some rando to me.
Evolve Dammit
(20,830 posts)littlemissmartypants
(28,030 posts)Huck's got all kinds of ulterior motives. Did his pitiful daughter ever get her FEMA money?
Evolve Dammit
(20,830 posts)
StarryNite
(11,622 posts)NEWS: Trump has requested that the National Security Council be prepared in the situation room for his return, per Fox
surfered
(7,324 posts)After that, he doesnt give shit what happens to the Jews
Ping Tung
(2,680 posts)erronis
(20,170 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(3,137 posts)have anything to do with "scripture" or the "second coming."
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patphil
(7,958 posts)A lot of bad shit could be going down soon.
I agree that Trump may be the most consequential president in US history, but for all the wrong reasons.
And Huckabee is telling him that he is being guided by God. Next we'll be hearing more of that Trump is Jesus reincarnated BS.
My answer to that is to ask when did the Son of God go over to the dark side and align himself with Satan?
Trump is a loveless, self-absorbed, casually cruel monster.
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,416 posts)like what he imagines a tough guy sounds like - he has ZERO ability to think strategically about what spews out. Assassinating the Shia Supreme leader puts 200million followers against 10million Israel citizens.
Ray Bruns
(5,286 posts)
Happy Hoosier
(8,961 posts)Beastly Boy
(12,731 posts)bluestarone
(19,855 posts)lead to very bad for every human being in this world. NOTHING these two do will surprise me. Be ready is all i can say.
ancianita
(40,685 posts)God's will. This is not the time for Trump to listen to self-deceived christians.
Jesus: "See to it that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, "I am He,' and "The time is near." Do not follow them. " Luke 21:8
dflprincess
(28,862 posts)So Jesus can make his return?
ancianita
(40,685 posts)Even as nations rise against nations there will be no warnings or signs.
God decides, and no humans whatsoever can "bring about" any "end times," especially not some half-wit power worshipping christian advisers who don't even read their Bible.
dflprincess
(28,862 posts)It's having people who do believe that end times crap running things that is concerning.
ancianita
(40,685 posts)If one believes there is a loving God (and at least 3.66 billion do) reading 2,000 year old scripture as the Word of that God does matter, however. IF what's concerning is having people who do believe end times crap running things, then the only people who will get hurt will be the people who follow the people running things. The large majority of the U.S. will witness a lot of ugliness, refuse to fear or go along with it and, when their common decency decides, they'll do what it takes to rid themselves of this poison. How that unfolds we don't know yet, it might or might not be all that dramatic, and it might take the next year or two, but you can be sure the People of sanity and decency outnumber those "running things." They just showed themselves on Saturday, and they who showed up have millions more who are in their corner and we'll have to trust them to act in the interests of liberty and justice for all. Reality doesn't have an audience; it's neither episodic nor a movie. So even as narratives get spread as "news," what matters is that humans -- Americans -- act on each other's behalf and not as puppets of fearmongers and mammon/power worshippers.
Whiskeytide
(4,556 posts)
whom are not terrorists, might be dead. Along with most of the Jews in Israel. Thats the problem with putting End Timers in power. They may not be able to actually bring about the end times biblically. But they can cause a lot of damage trying to do so.
I get what youre saying, and youre technically right. But whether they read their bibles or not is beside the point when they have access to the button.
ancianita
(40,685 posts)belief system? There will be wars and rumors of wars, yes, but those who believe end times crap cannot bring on the apocalypse even as they do cause a lot of human damage. Those who follow warmongers will suffer and probably die, yes. That is what happens when human depravity destroys in the name of some god.
And we've known for a long time that everything the felon touches dies. He's the kiss of death, but his access to the death button is pretty complicated and hard to get military permissions for, and our US military and most humans in and outside America know this.
Whiskeytide
(4,556 posts)
madrasa training. So I cant comment on what the islamic or any other religion might be willing to anoint with the concept of a martyr.
But I would prefer that millions of deaths not be attributed to my nations agency. That is abhorrent to me. And the issue of whether they can or cannot accomplish their stated goal of bringing about the apocalypse, or whether or not they have correctly interpreted the Bible, is irrelevant.
ancianita
(40,685 posts)the officially approved Q'uran sold in the West, and can tell you that they do believe in martyrdom in the name of their Allah.
Whether you think they have some stated goal and whether or not you think it's relevant isn't really up to any of us anyway.
Totally get that we don't want to be the agents of Iranians' deaths. Or of Israelis' deaths. And we won't be. It's not our war. Yes, Israel is our ally, and we will support it, because we and the British helped establish Israel before it declared itself a nation state in 1948. The British Empire made several things happen before WWII and the Holocaust:
-- The Balfour Declaration (1917) was a statement by the British government that expressed support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine. It was their millennial home for thousands of years before the US and Europe ever existed.
-- The British Mandate for Palestine: Following the Treaty of Sèvres, the League of Nations granted control of Palestine to the British, with the goal of implementing the Balfour Declaration.
-- After the Allies won WWII, the UN Partition Plan (Resolution 181) passed in 1947 by the United Nations General Assembly, recommended the partition of Palestine into two independent states, one Arab and one Jewish, with Jerusalem under international administration.
This plan was accepted by the Jewish leadership, but rejected by Arab states.
-- Then, the British Mandate ended on May 14, 1948, leading to the Israeli Declaration of Independence (in Tel Aviv) as a nation state, and the subsequent 1948 Arab-Israeli War.
Whether you think it's relevant or not, there's no biblical basis for these RW apocalypse yearnings, either, because the Bible -- which I've read, studied at university level, and taught in Sunday school in two different denominations -- says no such thing.
This narrative that these self deceived christians tell themselves is just the latest iteration of a couple hundred times that christian hotheads have proclaimed "end times." No one at the International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem thinks this, either. It's all bullshit.
But one thing is historically true: Israel deserves to exist in its millennial homeland and has been fighting off those who would destroy it from the days of the Roman Empire to the days of Islamic-Arab state attacks in the 20th Century.
GiqueCee
(2,358 posts)... that overweight worm, should slither back into the cesspool that spawned him. Sanctimonious über-christians wrap themselves in the blood-soaked cloak of faux religiosity to justify spewing such witless, fawning drivel in hopes of gaining favor with, hands down and going away, the WORST president to which this nation has ever been subjected.
But there is no reasoning with the room-temperature IQs to whom that message is directed. I mean, shit! Most of those people believe the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old, and they're so dirt stupid that they couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel! Which is why Trumpleforeskin so loves the poorly educated; talk tough, and give 'em someone they can look down on, and they'll believe anything you tell 'em. There's a blithering idiot born every minute.
ultralite001
(1,782 posts)WTF???!!!
From the Truman Library:
After President Roosevelt died on April 12th, 1945, it became Harry Trumans job to decide how to end the war. He learned of the Manhattan Project, the secret scientific effort to create an atomic bomb, upon becoming president.
After a successful test of the weapon, Truman issued the Potsdam Declaration demanding unconditional surrender of the Japanese government, warning of prompt + utter destruction.
Eleven days later, on August 6, 1945, having received no reply from the Japanese government, an American bomber, the Enola Gay, left Tinian Island en route to Japan. In the belly of the bomber was Little Boy, an atomic bomb. At 8:15 am Hiroshima time, Little Boy was dropped, resulting in approximately 80,000 deaths in just the first few minutes. Thousands died later from radiation sickness.
On August 9, 1945, another bomber was en route to Japan, heading for Nagasaki with Fat Man, another atomic bomb. After the first minute of dropping Fat Man, 39,000 men, women + children were killed + 25,000 more were injured.
Both cities were leveled from the bombs + this, in turn, forced Japan to surrender to the United States. The war was finally over.
Is this Krasnov's playbook??? When will he declare war??? Will he think an Executive Order will suffice???
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)Religious kookery dictating policy
Mossfern
(3,918 posts)This comes to mind when I hear Trump telling Iran to surrender.
I just picture him with a long nose with a wart, a floppy pointed hat riding a decrepit broomstick.
Someone needs to make an AI image of this.
on edit: Anyone have a bucket of water handy?
orangecrush
(25,094 posts)
Amishman
(5,888 posts)Iran is being depleted and defanged.
Politically they are in disarray.
Time to push them over, hopefully we get a better government in Tehran and an independent Kurdistan.
This is a golden opportunity.