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justaprogressive

(4,109 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:52 AM 10 hrs ago

The most dangerous man in government right now isn't Trump

I don’t mean to be that guy, but someone has to. Someone has to say things are not getting better, no matter how low Donald Trump’s polling numbers go, no matter how stupid his birthday parade was, no matter how many people (4-6 million) protested against him last weekend.
We want things to get better, because we want to believe America is better than this. But America really isn’t better than this. The last election proved it. The next election won’t change it. If we do not face the truth about the people, I don’t see how we can make things right.

The denial is so deep that leaders of the Democratic Party still can’t bring themselves to blame the president, even when he’s directly responsible for inspiring an assassin to murder one of their own.

I mean, Ken Martin, the chair of the Democratic National Committee, was close friends with Melissa Hortman, the Minnesota lawmaker who was gunned down in cold blood. Martin wept for her on national TV but didn’t name Trump. He should have said, “That’s it, no more Mr. Nice Democrat.” Instead, he meekly asked why we can’t all get along.

But the denial goes deeper. As liberals cheer the fact that Trump’s job approval is sliding downward, even on issues that favor him, such as immigration, the president acts like there’s no such thing as polling, and like there’s no such thing as a public that he’s obliged to serve.


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The most dangerous man in government right now isn't Trump (Original Post) justaprogressive 10 hrs ago OP
David Hogg might be a good person to talk about gun violence. Kid Berwyn 10 hrs ago #1
You wrote all that and didn't say who the most danberous man is. brush 10 hrs ago #2
Yes, they did. Go back and read it again. Biophilic 9 hrs ago #3
You have to click thru to the linked article to see the name Wiz Imp 9 hrs ago #4
Funny, I didn't have to do that. Uhn? Biophilic 8 hrs ago #7
The OP doesn't mention Kennedy at all. Wiz Imp 7 hrs ago #13
Yep, poor writing skills. The poster didn't just bury the lead, he/she didn't mention it. brush 5 hrs ago #16
How about naming him/her then? Polybius 8 hrs ago #6
Kennedy. usedtobedemgurl 8 hrs ago #11
I will not. Such poor writing skills. brush 5 hrs ago #17
I had to go there to find out it is Kennedy. usedtobedemgurl 8 hrs ago #9
Your reading skills haven't deteriorated. The posters writing skills have. Why make such... brush 5 hrs ago #15
So who is it? Polybius 8 hrs ago #5
The article named Ken Martin of the DNC Biophilic 8 hrs ago #8
Here it is from the article... usedtobedemgurl 7 hrs ago #12
It did not name Ken Martin as the most dangerous man. Wiz Imp 7 hrs ago #14
Kennedy. usedtobedemgurl 8 hrs ago #10

Kid Berwyn

(20,743 posts)
1. David Hogg might be a good person to talk about gun violence.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:56 AM
10 hrs ago

Perhaps Mr. Martin can give him a ring and ask what’s appropriate in such situations?



Outstanding OP, thanks!

ETA: RFK Jr. is indeed dangerous, but our side must do more than moan. Otherwise, we are our own worst enemy.

brush

(60,259 posts)
2. You wrote all that and didn't say who the most danberous man is.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:02 AM
10 hrs ago

Who is it? Get to the point.

Wiz Imp

(5,430 posts)
4. You have to click thru to the linked article to see the name
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:54 AM
9 hrs ago

With a title like that, you should name the person before the 8th paragraph of your article.

brush

(60,259 posts)
16. Yep, poor writing skills. The poster didn't just bury the lead, he/she didn't mention it.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:26 PM
5 hrs ago

usedtobedemgurl

(1,715 posts)
11. Kennedy.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:11 PM
8 hrs ago

“Kennedy is probably the most dangerous man in the government right now, but don’t take my word for it. Take it from Gabrielle A. Perry, an epidemiologist, writer and philanthropist who’s been sounding the alarm on how really bad things are really going to get.”

usedtobedemgurl

(1,715 posts)
9. I had to go there to find out it is Kennedy.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:09 PM
8 hrs ago

Someone said they did not have to click through but I did not see Kennedy’s name above. Maybe my reading skills have deteriorated?

brush

(60,259 posts)
15. Your reading skills haven't deteriorated. The posters writing skills have. Why make such...
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 03:24 PM
5 hrs ago

a definitive statement like that that readers have to search to find the answer.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,715 posts)
12. Here it is from the article...
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:12 PM
7 hrs ago

“Kennedy is probably the most dangerous man in the government right now, but don’t take my word for it. Take it from Gabrielle A. Perry, an epidemiologist, writer and philanthropist who’s been sounding the alarm on how really bad things are really going to get.”

Wiz Imp

(5,430 posts)
14. It did not name Ken Martin as the most dangerous man.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:45 PM
7 hrs ago

That would be an absolutely ludicrous assertion. This passage where he is named:

I mean, Ken Martin, the chair of the Democratic National Committee, was close friends with Melissa Hortman, the Minnesota lawmaker who was gunned down in cold blood. Martin wept for her on national TV but didn’t name Trump. He should have said, “That’s it, no more Mr. Nice Democrat.” Instead, he meekly asked why we can’t all get along.


is at best a mild criticism of Martin for not being harder on Trump. It in no way implies he's dangerous let alone the "most" dangerous.

You have to click through to the article to read this:

Kennedy is probably the most dangerous man in the government right now, but don’t take my word for it. Take it from Gabrielle A. Perry, an epidemiologist, writer and philanthropist who’s been sounding the alarm on how really bad things are really going to get.
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