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Tommy Carcetti

(43,982 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:40 AM 11 hrs ago

Well, I'll be! Asbestos! It's back!

What the ever living fuck?

What's next? Lead in our gas and paint?





Mónica Rhor 🇪🇨 @monicarhor

E.P.A. Plans to Reconsider a Ban on Cancer-Causing Asbestos
The Trump administration’s move sets back a decades-long effort to end the use of the material, which is widely banned in other countries.

9:34 AM · Jun 17, 2025 · 11 Views


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/us/epa-trump-asbestos-ban-delay.html
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Well, I'll be! Asbestos! It's back! (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti 11 hrs ago OP
My goodness kwolf68 11 hrs ago #1
its in extremely limited use purple_haze 11 hrs ago #2
Because what's a few cases of mesothelioma? No one will have insurance to be diagosed with it anyway. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #17
Relative to what? Torchlight 9 hrs ago #37
Mesothelioma killed my BIL. sheshe2 11 hrs ago #3
Sorry for your brother in law. It's an awful disease. Easterncedar 11 hrs ago #6
He worked on industrial ovens as a welder when he was young. sheshe2 10 hrs ago #14
And my uncle, and it was a bad, drawn-out death obamanut2012 11 hrs ago #9
So sorry for your uncle's passing. sheshe2 10 hrs ago #15
Thank you obamanut2012 9 hrs ago #22
So saddened to hear this, She. SheltieLover 9 hrs ago #29
My sister home cared for him, while still working. sheshe2 7 hrs ago #61
Yikes Easterncedar 11 hrs ago #4
FUCKING INSANE spanone 11 hrs ago #5
Heck, leaded gasoline worked much better than the current stuff. jeffreyi 10 hrs ago #18
Ddt is already being reconsidered... getagrip_already 9 hrs ago #34
Make Americans Poisoned Again Clouds Passing 11 hrs ago #7
So what is the benefit to do this? kwolf68 11 hrs ago #8
No doubt, an industry CEO thought.. Omnipresent 11 hrs ago #10
Trump will establish a market for trading asbestos futures contracts, make a killing when it's legal again. sop 11 hrs ago #11
It's the best heat insulator there is. Turbineguy 10 hrs ago #13
They really are trying to kill us! Liberal In Texas 11 hrs ago #12
Trump hates us so much he wants us to die. No shit. Walleye 10 hrs ago #16
The feeling is mutual. N/T tonekat 9 hrs ago #41
Oh yeah, truer words were never spoken Walleye 7 hrs ago #62
The GOP is intent on killing as many of us as possible. Irish_Dem 10 hrs ago #19
Next up, mining for asbestos in lands which will be transfered . . . John1956PA 9 hrs ago #24
I believe most asbestos countingbluecars 10 hrs ago #20
A country which doesn't have any tariffs on its exports to us. Prof. Toru Tanaka 9 hrs ago #32
Absolutely. Old Crow 9 hrs ago #40
A lot of it came from Canada. rsdsharp 3 hrs ago #64
It doesn't kill you right away. You get to suffer indefinitely. twodogsbarking 9 hrs ago #21
Soon we will return to doctors endorsing cigarette smoking Bristlecone 9 hrs ago #23
Yes, the freedom to die prematurely. peggysue2 9 hrs ago #26
Only if they're being manufactured by Russia. Old Crow 9 hrs ago #42
Make Butte, Montana, great again! jmowreader 9 hrs ago #25
Libby MT is where they mined asbestos Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 9 hrs ago #44
They didn't intentionally mine asbestos in Libby jmowreader 8 hrs ago #52
Double cool! Asbestos is the Bestest !! chouchou 9 hrs ago #27
What's next? Leaded gasoline? SheltieLover 9 hrs ago #28
At this point, why not? dchill 9 hrs ago #31
Dead Americans seems to be their goal, so why not? SheltieLover 8 hrs ago #45
It certainly fits that narrative. dchill 7 hrs ago #63
There really aren't words. dchill 9 hrs ago #30
Absolute madness. iluvtennis 9 hrs ago #33
Christ almighty. orangecrush 9 hrs ago #35
Hey, why not a touch of mesothelioma to go with our lead poisoning, measles, Ocelot II 9 hrs ago #36
The US gets asbestos from Russia kkmarie 9 hrs ago #38
Thanks for reminding me -- Link below for photo of Trump's face printed on bags of Russian asbestos Old Crow 8 hrs ago #48
We are nothing more than commodities to these psychos. hadEnuf 9 hrs ago #39
He needs to be removed from office ASAP. 1WorldHope 9 hrs ago #43
What's next? Reading the "lord's prayer" every morning in public classrooms. erronis 8 hrs ago #46
Not in Spanish. Scary, ain't it? twodogsbarking 8 hrs ago #49
J&J is probably panting to put it back in baby powder Wicked Blue 8 hrs ago #47
Those evil motherfuckers should all get mesothelioma -- Tarzanrock 8 hrs ago #50
My father died from asbestos cancer lapfog_1 8 hrs ago #51
So sorry. Fuckers they are. twodogsbarking 8 hrs ago #54
It's all about the money. Buddyzbuddy 8 hrs ago #53
Trump's pants are made of asbestos. What other logical conclusion is there? twodogsbarking 8 hrs ago #55
Make lung cancer great again. Vinca 8 hrs ago #56
Is Secretary of Health RFK Jr cool with that? tanyev 8 hrs ago #57
Asbestos is in our water supply, through the cast iron pipes. gab13by13 8 hrs ago #58
MATA usedtobedemgurl 8 hrs ago #59
My father died from cancer caused by asbestos Tree Lady 7 hrs ago #60

Scrivener7

(56,011 posts)
17. Because what's a few cases of mesothelioma? No one will have insurance to be diagosed with it anyway.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:44 AM
10 hrs ago

sheshe2

(92,442 posts)
14. He worked on industrial ovens as a welder when he was young.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:24 AM
10 hrs ago

It killed him in his 50’s.

obamanut2012

(28,534 posts)
22. Thank you
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:28 AM
9 hrs ago

After a terrible 18 months, he refused all further treatment or care, and died three weeks later, surrounded by his wife and dogs at home.

sheshe2

(92,442 posts)
61. My sister home cared for him, while still working.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:58 PM
7 hrs ago

He died the day before Thanksgiving and two weeks after my dad passed away. It was a hard year.

Ty,SheltieLover. 💙

Easterncedar

(4,526 posts)
4. Yikes
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:51 AM
11 hrs ago

40 or so years ago I worked on monitoring big removal projects. That stuff is scary. It gets airborne and then it doesn’t take any great exposure before mesothelioma may develop. Smoking makes your odds much much worse, so maybe it’s time to repeal all those smoking restrictions while he’s at it.

spanone

(139,316 posts)
5. FUCKING INSANE
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:53 AM
11 hrs ago

Yes, let's put lead back in paint.

Let's take seat belts out of cars

Let's make candy cigarettes too.

THIS ADMINISTRATION IS THE ENEMY OF US.

jeffreyi

(2,377 posts)
18. Heck, leaded gasoline worked much better than the current stuff.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:53 AM
10 hrs ago

Let's bring that back, too. And to take care,of the flies and maggots around the rotting corpses from the poisoned gasoline...what could be better than that old standbye, DDT?

Omnipresent

(6,934 posts)
10. No doubt, an industry CEO thought..
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:04 AM
11 hrs ago

“Trump will be on board for this, as long as we give him a big check!”.

sop

(14,719 posts)
11. Trump will establish a market for trading asbestos futures contracts, make a killing when it's legal again.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:08 AM
11 hrs ago

Liberal In Texas

(15,304 posts)
12. They really are trying to kill us!
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:19 AM
11 hrs ago

I've seen a lot of patients with mesothelioma in my time working in legal support recording their depositions. This is a horrible disease and completely preventable with banning the substance.


Walleye

(41,030 posts)
62. Oh yeah, truer words were never spoken
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 02:00 PM
7 hrs ago

I’m hoping our next large protest is dingdong the witch is dead.

Irish_Dem

(71,135 posts)
19. The GOP is intent on killing as many of us as possible.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:11 AM
10 hrs ago

For the purpose of making money and their cruelty.

John1956PA

(4,158 posts)
24. Next up, mining for asbestos in lands which will be transfered . . .
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:34 AM
9 hrs ago

. . . from the federal government to Trump's cronies.

Old Crow

(2,257 posts)
40. Absolutely.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:16 PM
9 hrs ago

Russia is the largest producer of asbestos, with an annual output of around 630,000 metric tons in 2023. That's more than double the output of the second-largest produced (Kazakhstan).

Old Crow

(2,257 posts)
42. Only if they're being manufactured by Russia.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:18 PM
9 hrs ago

Trump is an absolute effing STOOGE for Putin. He will trash the safety and health of Americans in a heartbeat if it benefits Vladimir in some way.

jmowreader

(52,429 posts)
25. Make Butte, Montana, great again!
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:37 AM
9 hrs ago

America’s biggest asbestos mine was in Butte. I don’t recommend ever going there.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(124,580 posts)
44. Libby MT is where they mined asbestos
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:20 PM
9 hrs ago

Many people in the town came down with mesothelioma.

Butte is the location of the nation's deepest copper strip mine.

jmowreader

(52,429 posts)
52. They didn't intentionally mine asbestos in Libby
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:46 PM
8 hrs ago

WR Grace was mining vermiculite, which is a rock that gets fluffy if it’s heated up enough, in Libby. At one point 80 percent of the world’s supply of this very useful mineral came from there. This stuff has millions of uses - insulation, fireproofing, plant growing medium…they even use it as fake snow in the movies. What no one realized until half the town came down with mesothelioma is the Libby mine is heavily contaminated with white asbestos. Since you can’t clean the asbestos from the vermiculite, they had no choice but to close the mine.

Butte is also an asbestos source. I suspect everything east of the Idaho state line has asbestos deposits. There might be some in the Silver Valley, but the ore Hecla is looking for formed below where asbestos is so there are no issues with it in the Lucky Friday and Sunshine mines.

Ocelot II

(125,323 posts)
36. Hey, why not a touch of mesothelioma to go with our lead poisoning, measles,
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:01 PM
9 hrs ago

covid, smallpox, cholera and typhoid? Like Senator Ernst told us, everybody dies. What's the problem?

Old Crow

(2,257 posts)
48. Thanks for reminding me -- Link below for photo of Trump's face printed on bags of Russian asbestos
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:26 PM
8 hrs ago

If you haven't seen the images, here's one:

https://imgur.com/a/SCfIQ7U

Wicked Blue

(8,026 posts)
47. J&J is probably panting to put it back in baby powder
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:25 PM
8 hrs ago

After all, who cares about the already-born. It's fetuses that matter in MAGAworld.

Tarzanrock

(1,100 posts)
50. Those evil motherfuckers should all get mesothelioma --
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:37 PM
8 hrs ago

where the tumor grows to the size of a basketball on the victim's chest and the victim suffocates to death. Fuck all these evil, criminal Assholes! Vote all of them out of office and to Hell and gone!

lapfog_1

(30,981 posts)
51. My father died from asbestos cancer
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:45 PM
8 hrs ago

he was in the Navy and served aboard a Navy destroyer for most of WW2.

You could SEE the asbestos that was lodged in his lung on the xray. By the time it was discovered, it was too late to do anything.

Fuckers!

Buddyzbuddy

(1,021 posts)
53. It's all about the money.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:52 PM
8 hrs ago

Many older commercial buildings still have asbestos. They can be money pits for investors and developers. Or, if asbestos is deregulated it can be a windfall. Buy them cheap now and strip out the asbestos without all of those pesky enviromental and safety regulations. They know the deregulation would be temporary. $$$

tanyev

(46,793 posts)
57. Is Secretary of Health RFK Jr cool with that?
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:08 PM
8 hrs ago

Maybe he found a YouTube video where a self-taught scientist talks about the health benefits of asbestos that “they” don’t want you to know about.

gab13by13

(28,436 posts)
58. Asbestos is in our water supply, through the cast iron pipes.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:14 PM
8 hrs ago

Our small town has pristine water but I won't drink it. The main water line that supplies my water contains asbestos. The yearly Municipal water report showed our water has levels of asbestos above allowable amounts.

Our town is starting to replace our lines, starting with the wealthy side of town.

Tree Lady

(12,463 posts)
60. My father died from cancer caused by asbestos
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:29 PM
7 hrs ago

Trump is insane, he and his tribe have to go before they kill us all...

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