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dweller

(26,701 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:07 PM 20 hrs ago

13.14 million according to Alt NPS

We’re honored to announce a final count of 13.14 million in attendance across 2,300+ No Kings protests nationwide. It took a little longer to finalize due to the sheer scale, but the turnout was historic!

So far, 71 MAGA agitators have been arrested, with 62 additional investigations still underway. We’re actively reviewing online threats and working on escalating where needed. If you see something, say something.

How was the count conducted? Over 140,000 coalition members attended events across the country, at least one at nearly every protest. Many traveled far and got to see some amazing small towns along the way. Local authorities provided crowd estimates, which were then reported back and compiled for the final count.
Regardless of the final count because honestly, the exact number is secondary, the crowds were massive, and everyone who showed up knows it. Even the smallest towns had a presence. The tides in America are turning, and you can see it clearly when you compare it to Trump’s birthday parade.
from my FB

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13.14 million according to Alt NPS (Original Post) dweller 20 hrs ago OP
Yes!!!! SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #1
Go No Kings! Go No Kings! Go No Kings! applegrove 20 hrs ago #2
Link? Wiz Imp 20 hrs ago #3
As I posted above dweller 20 hrs ago #5
You are aware that many, many people here do not have facebook accounts.... Wiz Imp 18 hrs ago #23
Of course dweller 18 hrs ago #24
lololol Blue_Adept 20 hrs ago #4
Almost as big as a Trump rally... lame54 20 hrs ago #6
THANK YOU FOR THIS POST - THIS IS TRUTH! I attented in NYC and walked the entire route. c-rational 19 hrs ago #7
In SF where I live I have never seen so many people in the streets. kimbutgar 19 hrs ago #8
do it again jaymac 19 hrs ago #9
In the Clackamas Town Center (Oregon) there were LONG lines of people. calimary 17 hrs ago #29
Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #32
People were smiling!! KT2000 19 hrs ago #10
Great! Now we need to convert this activism into votes... Wounded Bear 19 hrs ago #11
"... can't believe this still needs to be said, but: stop following altNPS." mahatmakanejeeves 19 hrs ago #12
so much this Blue_Adept 18 hrs ago #13
+1 demmiblue 18 hrs ago #22
Alt NPS is a resistanceporn dodgy acct., posting bollocks to clout-chase, same as many other BlueAnon grifters out there Celerity 18 hrs ago #14
100 recs... embarrassing. n/t demmiblue 17 hrs ago #27
Indicative, but not reliable or definitive. At least they have a methodology. Bernardo de La Paz 17 hrs ago #28
Zoom mtg by Indivisible tonight to discuss and plan what's next. 2 Meow Momma 13 hrs ago #39
I do not know anything about Alt NPS just what my gut says, and being an engineer, I like numbers...here we go c-rational 14 hrs ago #35
I am with you c-rational. I was at that protest march also. jrthin 14 hrs ago #36
Your math adds up. BigmanPigman 9 hrs ago #49
"" AllaN01Bear 18 hrs ago #15
8.3% of the registered voters in 2022 Old Crank 18 hrs ago #16
We had a group of pro king Un-Americans show up Blue Full Moon 18 hrs ago #17
Quite a few people were initially pooh-poohing these numbers Brother Buzz 18 hrs ago #18
Earlier numbers had no methodology and deserved to be pooh-poohed, as I did pooh-pooh them. Bernardo de La Paz 17 hrs ago #30
Neither have posted dweller 17 hrs ago #33
Fantastic news! Lets keep the momentum William769 18 hrs ago #19
I don't trust this account. n/t demmiblue 18 hrs ago #20
Even in Red Sarasota, the crowd was substantial. ..and one other sad note... chouchou 18 hrs ago #21
That doesn't even count the honking cars relayerbob 17 hrs ago #25
This is the LilElf70 17 hrs ago #26
Kick SheltieLover 17 hrs ago #31
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer 16 hrs ago #34
Thank you Alt NPS. Clouds Passing 13 hrs ago #37
MSNBC The Weeknight just reported 5 million. I laughed. nt 2 Meow Momma 13 hrs ago #38
Before the week is out dweller 13 hrs ago #40
Assholes. Won't they be surprised when Cha 13 hrs ago #42
So Magnificent to be a part of our Cha 13 hrs ago #41
Mahalo Cha ! dweller 13 hrs ago #43
So Very Welcome, dweller! Cha 12 hrs ago #44
Ezra w/ Indivisible said conservative estimate 5 million on a debrief zoom call. 2 Meow Momma 11 hrs ago #45
That is crazy numbers SunImp 11 hrs ago #46
Those numbers are very close to what Farmer-Rick 10 hrs ago #47
Wow!!! 11 million is the 3.5% rule! BigmanPigman 9 hrs ago #48
If those numbers are correct, we are now past the 3.5% it takes to overthrow a dictator augyboston 2 hrs ago #50
They should not be trusted Wiz Imp 38 min ago #52
Compare & contrast NJCher 1 hr ago #51
That's a lot purple_haze 29 min ago #53

dweller

(26,701 posts)
5. As I posted above
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:45 PM
20 hrs ago

It’s from my facebook link .
You can find it on your fb page by following Alt NPS


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dweller

(26,701 posts)
24. Of course
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 03:01 PM
18 hrs ago

I would refer you to their bluesky account , but I don’t have a bluesky account .
Maybe you do


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Blue_Adept

(6,460 posts)
4. lololol
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:39 PM
20 hrs ago

How people can follow never mind believe anything coming from blueanon accounts like that is beyond me.

Didn't people learn from the 2017 era of such accounts that they're just bullshitting and scamming people?

c-rational

(3,055 posts)
7. THANK YOU FOR THIS POST - THIS IS TRUTH! I attented in NYC and walked the entire route.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:18 PM
19 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 16, 2025, 06:50 PM - Edit history (1)

We walked at a snail's pace due to crowds. Fifteen plus blocks packed solid. Corporate media does not want to admit the truth. Or should I say corporate or legacy media is actively pumping propaganda with the low numbers reported, i.e. 4.5-7 million. We exceeded the 3.5% threshold, and that is why there was such an outpouring of joy and hope yesterday in the face of this adversity.

kimbutgar

(25,342 posts)
8. In SF where I live I have never seen so many people in the streets.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:47 PM
19 hrs ago

The woman’s March in 2017 was big but looking up Market street the lines of people were endless. When we left people were still coming into civic center .

jaymac

(20 posts)
9. do it again
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:47 PM
19 hrs ago

and we need to do it again. at least one every couple of weeks. stand out with friends and neighbors for an hour on a weekend day to voice displeasure with them. I pray we can do this.

calimary

(86,670 posts)
29. In the Clackamas Town Center (Oregon) there were LONG lines of people.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 03:09 PM
17 hrs ago

On every grassy curb area, around the extensive parking lot areas. Along every sidewalk, lining every driveway that wove through the area. From what I could see, it was single file lines of people. Of every age, some with baby strollers, quite a few elders in wheelchairs. A whole lot of everybody, and it was a challenge to locate where the lines started and/or ended. HUGELY encouraging!

And I didn’t find a single person there who was in a bad mood. It was a VERY happy, lighthearted, and tremendously congenial crowd. Everybody looked like they were glad to be there, and many had friends and family members with them. Just SOOOOOOOOO SATISFYING!!!

My only takeaway: I wanna do this AGAIN! WHEN’S the next one? (Actually I’ve already heard there IS a next one - in a couple of weeks, and us Indivisibles will be at that one, too!)

Response to c-rational (Reply #7)

KT2000

(21,489 posts)
10. People were smiling!!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:57 PM
19 hrs ago

It was a joyful event to share with like minded people and not feel so isolated. I was losing hope for humanity but it has now been restored.

Wounded Bear

(62,196 posts)
11. Great! Now we need to convert this activism into votes...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:59 PM
19 hrs ago

We're gonna need a landslide to flip congress.

mahatmakanejeeves

(65,040 posts)
12. "... can't believe this still needs to be said, but: stop following altNPS."
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:00 PM
19 hrs ago

Yesterday: "... can't believe this still needs to be said, but: stop following altNPS."

Reposted by Mike Masnick

Aves Maria
‪@avesmaria.bsky.social‬

Follow
can’t believe this still needs to be said, but: stop following altNPS. none of them work for the NPS and they exist to do Qanon numbers station crap and sell merch. it’s annoying for a lot of us that are actually NPS. thanks

‪Kevin Gannon (now a Moo Deng fan account)‬
‪@thetattooedprof.bsky.social‬
· 8h
I know a lot of folks like this account. But this is a wild, and unhelpful, exaggeration--it's a resistance version of sean spicer. It veers into #resistanceporn and trades accuracy for clout, like other "blue maga" grifters on here. Pls consider finding other sources of inspiration/news/motivation
Post from "alt national park service" account reading "From coast to coast, city streets to small town squares, you showed up. And it mattered. Honored to announce: 12.1 million in attendance."
The 12.1 million figure is 300 percent more than every estimate produced by experts and scholars who carefully went through nationwide reports.
ALT
June 15, 2025 at 3:33 PM

can’t believe this still needs to be said, but: stop following altNPS. none of them work for the NPS and they exist to do Qanon numbers station crap and sell merch. it’s annoying for a lot of us that are actually NPS. thanks

Aves Maria (@avesmaria.bsky.social) 2025-06-15T19:33:58.660Z

Celerity

(50,362 posts)
14. Alt NPS is a resistanceporn dodgy acct., posting bollocks to clout-chase, same as many other BlueAnon grifters out there
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:15 PM
18 hrs ago

It is absolutely not a valid source of info.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,490 posts)
28. Indicative, but not reliable or definitive. At least they have a methodology.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 03:09 PM
17 hrs ago

What do No Kings and Indivisible say?

2 Meow Momma

(6,809 posts)
39. Zoom mtg by Indivisible tonight to discuss and plan what's next.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 07:34 PM
13 hrs ago

I’ll report back if they give numbers.

c-rational

(3,055 posts)
35. I do not know anything about Alt NPS just what my gut says, and being an engineer, I like numbers...here we go
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 06:29 PM
14 hrs ago

A NYC street with sidewalks is ~102' x 900'. This leads to 92,000 SF (square feet). Including the intersections I bump it up 10 % to say 100,000 SF per block x 17 blocks full (from 42nd to 26/25th) leads to 1,700,000 square feet. The maximum density of humans packed shoulder to shoulder is ~1/meter squared gives ~168,000 people. I calculate that because it was a march and the line continually refreshed there were actually ~.5 million protesters in NYC easy. That times the 5 largest cities - Boston, Phili, Chicago, LA and SF gives 2.5 million. With an additional 2295 protests, I do believe we exceeded the 3.5% threshold. That means the average of the other events was a little over 3,200. I want numbers.

BigmanPigman

(53,204 posts)
49. Your math adds up.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:00 AM
9 hrs ago

I have been adding numbers since May 28th when it was announced and I started keeping track.

NYC had at least 1/2 million. Small towns with 800 residents had 400 marchers so that is a pretty good number to base comparisons on. Estimates were grossly underestimated. I've been bitching about it in the Activist Headquarters Forum for 3 weeks. Just look at my posts and you can see how frustrated I am with this BS from the MSM's greedy, corporate millionaire/ traitors.

San Diego had 80,000 protesters (I saw it today on the local news). Three days ago they said 10,000. My 1st grade students could add better.


Old Crank

(5,781 posts)
16. 8.3% of the registered voters in 2022
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:29 PM
18 hrs ago

That is a huge number to mobilize against the government.

Blue Full Moon

(2,270 posts)
17. We had a group of pro king Un-Americans show up
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:37 PM
18 hrs ago

The leader of the protest called the cops. The police escorted them away from us. We drowned them out by all of us chanting, love not hate makes America great. They gave up.

Brother Buzz

(38,624 posts)
18. Quite a few people were initially pooh-poohing these numbers
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:38 PM
18 hrs ago

But I talked with my son last night, and what he told me convinced me these numbers are genuine.

He was traveling in Oregon, and he said every rural Podunk town had an event. Dozens of small communities.

He said even wide spots on the road had off the reservation events.

He gave everyone a horn toot and thumbs up, and still had time to get home an attend the big one in Portland.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,490 posts)
30. Earlier numbers had no methodology and deserved to be pooh-poohed, as I did pooh-pooh them.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 03:13 PM
17 hrs ago

Today's count (by one group) is more useful because at least they have a methodology.

But it is not definitive. I think the No Kings and Indivisible numbers will be more reliable.

Regardless, thanks to everyone who participated.

chouchou

(1,977 posts)
21. Even in Red Sarasota, the crowd was substantial. ..and one other sad note...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:43 PM
18 hrs ago

Several of my Liberal friends (Older ladies and gentleman) were afraid to protest.
"I wouldn't be able to defend my self" "I served in war but those days were many decades.."
It's a damn shame that older citizens are afraid to say-what-they-want-to.
Yours truly would have bit their right-wing ears! I don't give a you know what.

relayerbob

(7,214 posts)
25. That doesn't even count the honking cars
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 03:04 PM
17 hrs ago

And the online troops who were unable to go for whatever reasons.

LilElf70

(908 posts)
26. This is the
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 03:08 PM
17 hrs ago

best news I've heard in quite a long time. It sure brings hope that we will somehow save our democracy, and remove these corrupt magats in power.

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Cha

(311,980 posts)
44. So Very Welcome, dweller!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 08:08 PM
12 hrs ago
I think we need Dems on Air giving out the Actual Numbers of how many were there for No Kings Day.. since the M$M won't do it.

💛💙

2 Meow Momma

(6,809 posts)
45. Ezra w/ Indivisible said conservative estimate 5 million on a debrief zoom call.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 09:25 PM
11 hrs ago

We are 1/2 way to the 3.5% magic number it’ll take to build the power we need, but it must be SUSTAINED. In other words, we are going to keep going, keep working, keep speaking in whatever form we are able to do.

Go to nokings.org/next to find out how to keep momentum and what comes next.

July 17 will be “good trouble lives on day”. More info and links at nokings.org/next.

Btw, this debrief meeting is on YouTube so I learned…probably on a nokings channel or indivisible channel.

BigmanPigman

(53,204 posts)
48. Wow!!! 11 million is the 3.5% rule!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:43 PM
9 hrs ago

We did it!!!



Fuck you tRump!!! Unhappy Birthday, the OLDEST American POTUS ever.!

augyboston

(354 posts)
50. If those numbers are correct, we are now past the 3.5% it takes to overthrow a dictator
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 07:01 AM
2 hrs ago

Research suggests that a nonviolent movement needs to actively engage at least 3.5% of a population to successfully overthrow a dictator, according to a study by Erica Chenoweth and Maria Stephan. This "3.5% rule" indicates that a relatively small percentage of the population actively participating in a movement can be enough to create significant change.

Wiz Imp

(5,415 posts)
52. They should not be trusted
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:24 AM
38 min ago

The No Kings organizers themselves put the number at 5 million. Protest organizers don't usually low-ball estimates of crowds at their own protests. They may eventually increase their estimate, but until they do theirs is the number that should be trusted.

Here's the No Kings Press Release:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wr0b0dmnfBQ6js-QvZzHJFVChPgpCPad4lbvuHAxXx0/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.4h93ipge435

No Kings Protests Conclude with Overwhelming Peace and Unity Across the Country

Philadelphia, PA -- Today, in more than 2,100 cities and towns across the country, millions of people joined together for the No Kings Day of Defiance— the largest coordinated protests since President Trump returned to office. From block parties to marches, families, workers, immigrants, and neighbors showed up in the face of military deployments and political threats to affirm a shared truth: we don’t answer to kings, and we will not be ruled by fear.

With hundreds of events still underway, today’s No Kings actions have already drawn more than 5 million participants—nearly 2 million more than the Hands Off protests on April 5.

They brought joy, drums, banners, and faith. They came not to clash—but to claim what is ours: the right to gather, to speak, and to rise. And rise we did—with dignity, love, and powerful resolve. Turnout was overwhelmingly more than initially anticipated. Organizers and local law enforcement reported over 200,000 in New York, over 100,000 in Philadelphia, and in some towns like Pentwater, Michigan saw 400 people join in their small town with a population of 800.

In the face of the Trump administration and several Republican governors deploying the military to intimidate protestors, No Kings organizers clearly and publicly committed to peaceful action, and people across the country showed up anyway—with peace, purpose, and joy.

In response to this historic day of action, the No Kings Coalition issued the following statement:
“Today, across red states and blue, rural towns and major cities, Americans stood in peaceful unity and made it clear: we don’t do kings.
“While Trump and MAGA-aligned governors wasted public dollars on riot gear and fear tactics, the people brought hope, humor, and harmony. A national act of joyful resistance.
“This administration disappears people while cutting their care—slashing healthcare, gutting education, and criminalizing immigrants instead of delivering dignity.
“But today was a reminder: we are still here. Still organizing. Still rising. Still unafraid.
“We don’t do kings in this country. We do solidarity. We do community. We do justice—and we do it together.”

The No Kings coalition is and remains a nonviolent movement. We are heartbroken by the shooting in Minnesota, where State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were tragically killed, and State Senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette remain in recovery. Our prayers are with their families, their communities, and all those grieving.

In response, and out of an abundance of caution, we canceled all remaining No Kings events in Minnesota early in the day, following the guidance of Governor Walz and law enforcement as the search continues for the suspect. We honor the leadership of those impacted by this act of political violence by doubling down on our commitment to peace, unity, and democratic freedom. We call on every community—across race, faith, and difference—to reject hate of all forms and stand together against political violence.
TOP MOMENTS FROM THE DAY:

Atlanta, GA: https://www.tiktok.com/@bigmuscletravel/video/7515843615873174815?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xCrQthrvbT
Chicago, IL: https://www.tiktok.com/@jessinchicago312/video/7515856697995447595?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xCrjIE69eQ
Denver, CO:

Houston, TX: https://www.tiktok.com/@btnewsroom/video/7515836374260387115?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xCrnFDMVAs
Knoxville, TN:
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Los Angeles, CA:

Mar-a-Lago, FL:
?s=46
Napa Valley, CA (crowd singing):

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New York, NY: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK5Iam9R9oF/?igsh=M3h6cWdnOTBzaHpn
Oklahoma City, OK:

Philadelphia, PA: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveroomphiladelphia/video/7515880331522690310?_r=1&_t=ZP-8xCraEmfGYh
San Diego, CA: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8rLN6pV/
San Francisco:

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The Villages, FL:


All No Kings events were organized in coordination with local grassroots partners, grounded in nonviolence, and led by trained volunteers and community leaders committed to safety and solidarity. To view a full list of participating organizations or find photos and footage from the day of action, visit NoKings.org.

NJCher

(40,376 posts)
51. Compare & contrast
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 07:39 AM
1 hr ago

I think it was really nice of trump to set up an event on the same day so it looked like a measure of who supported what.

He even schmaltzed his event up cuz his birthday and the Army’s 250 year anniversary. Pull those emotional strings!

Then he fell asleep, further demonstrating how qualified he is for the office.



purple_haze

(30 posts)
53. That's a lot
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 08:32 AM
29 min ago

That should send a very clear message. But Trump will not see it that way at all. He lives in his own little world.

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