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Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:53 AM 20 hrs ago

"No Kings" worked brilliantly.

From a rhetorical perspective, the name was perfect. The event’s name activated the nation.



Millions protested Putin’s poodle and wannabe dick-tater.

Why? People understood the meaning behind it.


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"No Kings" worked brilliantly. (Original Post) Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago OP
It's encouraging to see that one of the bedrock American principles is alive as well. We don't have a king. Walleye 20 hrs ago #1
FAKE PHOTO PEOPLE: San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose Bay Area agrees! Kid Berwyn 19 hrs ago #6
Your post is fake pimpbot 19 hrs ago #8
No fuck? Really? Kid Berwyn 19 hrs ago #10
No problem! pimpbot 19 hrs ago #11
It's OK I didn't see it and wouldn't have believed it anyway we would've seen it for more than one source Walleye 18 hrs ago #16
Thanks, Walleye. It gets old, feeling shame. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #18
Not to worry, we all get taken in by fake pictures sometimes. Shame is a good thing but a killer. Walleye 18 hrs ago #19
Existential Threats should be enough on their own, but I agree on the premise! Moostache 20 hrs ago #2
Agree totally. Better messaging needed. Kid Berwyn 19 hrs ago #7
To me it implies we need to dumb down our messaging to short impactful bits bucolic_frolic 19 hrs ago #3
Want to see someone's eyes glaze over? Kid Berwyn 19 hrs ago #12
Oh God, yes! Please! Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #28
"No Kings" was perfect blubunyip 19 hrs ago #4
Hands Off! No Kings! Straight to the point. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #13
Nextdoor and sub-Reddit for my town Johnny2X2X 19 hrs ago #5
We got to do person-to-person. Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #14
Yeeees malaise 19 hrs ago #9
Headlines should read: "Largest Mass Protest in U.S. History" Kid Berwyn 18 hrs ago #15
This guy from Ohio sums it up Blue Full Moon 18 hrs ago #17
They'll grow in size, too. Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #23
Recommended! H2O Man 18 hrs ago #20
That is good news! We also got the M.I.C. with us. Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #24
Let's keep doing it!! Bluesaph 17 hrs ago #21
Ab-so-lute-ly! Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #25
Just a question about your OP picture. marked50 14 hrs ago #22
Why, yes! Thank you for noticing! Kid Berwyn 13 hrs ago #26
Thanks for the confirmation. marked50 11 hrs ago #29
And besides, it was fun as hell! Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #27

Walleye

(41,020 posts)
1. It's encouraging to see that one of the bedrock American principles is alive as well. We don't have a king.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:57 AM
20 hrs ago

Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
6. FAKE PHOTO PEOPLE: San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose Bay Area agrees!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:35 PM
19 hrs ago
Please know this is fake.



From a social media: The crowd was so dense that officials had to close the bridge and allow only pedestrians. The weight of the crowd caused the bridge’s suspension deck to flatten, eliminating the slight upward arch that normally characterizes the roadway. All 419,000 tons groaned and swayed in the wind. While the bridge was structurally sound and did not suffer any damage, the change in shape was alarming to many pedestrians. Engineers described it as a “once-in-a-lifetime event,” but stressed that there was no real danger.

Hope my error didn't hurt your delicate sensibilities or harm your critical faculties.

pimpbot

(1,090 posts)
8. Your post is fake
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:49 PM
19 hrs ago

That picture is from 1987. I'm not sure where the paragraph came from but its similar to news articles about a 1987 march on the bridge. I SO SO SO SO hate social media. Everything is fake, AI, or misleading. We have to stop reposting this crap.

Link to article about the 1987 pic:
https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2012/05/27/golden-gate-bridges-75th-anniversary-comes-with-legacy-of-dreams-hope-despair/

ETA: I'm kinda pissed about this because last night people were posting things about Boston using pictures from April. If you are going to repost from social media you really need to do your homework. Unless you are deliberately spreading false information.

I'm not sure why we don't have an "alert" category for false information.

pimpbot

(1,090 posts)
11. No problem!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:52 PM
19 hrs ago

Sorry didn't mean to single you out, just been seeing a lot of fake or false stuff flying around lately.

Walleye

(41,020 posts)
16. It's OK I didn't see it and wouldn't have believed it anyway we would've seen it for more than one source
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:33 PM
18 hrs ago

Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
18. Thanks, Walleye. It gets old, feeling shame.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:45 PM
18 hrs ago

Like the late, great American, Al Capone said when facing US Rep. Elise Stefanik, "I'm not an animal."



Must be interesting to feel no shame.

Walleye

(41,020 posts)
19. Not to worry, we all get taken in by fake pictures sometimes. Shame is a good thing but a killer.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:47 PM
18 hrs ago

Moostache

(10,589 posts)
2. Existential Threats should be enough on their own, but I agree on the premise!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:57 AM
20 hrs ago

"No Kings" is simple and easy to comprehend and get behind.
Fair taxation policy and educational affordability or healthcare subtleties can get a bit confusing for anyone not affected or paying attention... Now the real trick is at hand - converting these new initiates into true believers the same way the GOP captured nominal Christians with "pro-Life" (at least until birth, then fuck those kids for having bad parents)...

America's 250th birthday next July? Its gonna be wild.

Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
7. Agree totally. Better messaging needed.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:43 PM
19 hrs ago

We must harness the enthusiastic support of freedom garnered by No Kings. However, I still find it puzzling that between 2020-2024, he managed to avoid being held accountable. It wasn't just a stacked Supreme Court protecting his pimply backsides. His talking turds, like Rupert Murdoch, helped the traitor control the narrative. Here's what I suggested Plouffe and the Democratic doctors of spin use in the run-up to the election:

Donald J Trump represents the most successful spy operation of all time. And thanks to Just-us John Roberts redefining the meaning of "Insurrection" and the very words of the Constitution of the United States of America, an active Russian agent has been allowed to return to the Oval Office to again "serve" as the pee-resident.



Normally, I'd say: "Think about that!" But, destroying truth is what tyrants do. It's why they hate a free press.

It's why trumpf is doing all he can to sue anyone who ever wrote anything bad about him. Now he has the DoJ doing his dirty work and handing the legal bill to the U.S. taxpayer.

The photo of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and dip above was taken by TASS, the official Russian news agency. The US media were not informed about the 2017 visit. We learned about it because the Unstable Moron himself spread the pic proudly on social media.

How many people do you know who’ve seen that picture or the one below, taken on an earlier date in the Oval Office? Again, very few.



“I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to The Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off.”

"I'm not under investigation," he added.


Sources:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/10/527755991/trump-meets-with-russias-lavrov-at-the-white-house-today

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nut-job-james-comey-russia-2017-5

And this is the man leading the "restructuring of American government" today winking at Putin at a diplomatic affair during his first madministration.



No wonder Putin, the Kremlin and the GRU and whatever the KGB is called these days call him "America's Gorbachev." Gorby sped up the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Now Putin returns the favor through Trump and his destruction of America's economy, hailed just before the 2024 election by The Economist as "The Envy of the World."

Someone call the Military Police: traitor salutes a general of the nation which seized in 1968 and still illegally holds the USS Pueblo, a commissioned vessel on the active roll of the United States Navy, the second longest-serving ship in active service second only to the USS Constitution.



Seriously. Lock up spies. And traitors.

bucolic_frolic

(50,866 posts)
3. To me it implies we need to dumb down our messaging to short impactful bits
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:00 PM
19 hrs ago

"No Kings" beat "Make America Great Again".

No Kings is a return to America's roots. Everyone gets it. Bingo.

Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
12. Want to see someone's eyes glaze over?
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:56 PM
19 hrs ago

Mention "Child, Earned Income Tax Credit."

And yet, we bog ourselves down talking about specific policies. And that's with paying consultants millions of bucks to come up with a winning message.

Meanwhile, Putin's Puppet says: "Make America Great Again" and the KKK hears "Make America White Again."

The rich who support Trump will often say, "It's for the tax breaks I give him support," but really in their heart of hearts they are as low as the KKK and for the same reasons.

blubunyip

(183 posts)
4. "No Kings" was perfect
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:14 PM
19 hrs ago

I agree. "No Dictators" would have worked, but the reference back to King George was a stroke of genius-- it emphasizes our common heritage no matter the party.

I also like the way these really big Mobilize ones are named. Providing a reference and a loose theme.

NO

Johnny2X2X

(22,935 posts)
5. Nextdoor and sub-Reddit for my town
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:22 PM
19 hrs ago

Very successful events. The left has been energized and the right seems shook by all the comments from them about this, "these people don't even know what they're protesting." "I think most of them are paid to be there." "Dems didn't even have a primary..."

Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
14. We got to do person-to-person.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:26 PM
18 hrs ago

...in addition to the in-person events. Otherwise, people are just gonna hear the drone coming out of the tee vee -- a drone fashioned 24/7/366 by the dulcet tones of Rupert Murdoch and CIABCNNBCBSFakeNoiseNutworks.

Perhaps the pukes are too far gone to understand, given the media environment. Details, courtesy of Greenpeace:

The Lewis Powell Memo: A Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracy



The Powell Memo (also known as the Powell Manifesto)

The Powell Memo was first published August 23, 1971


Introduction

In 1971, Lewis Powell, then a corporate lawyer and member of the boards of 11 corporations, wrote a memo to his friend Eugene Sydnor, Jr., the Director of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The memorandum was dated August 23, 1971, two months prior to Powell’s nomination by President Nixon to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Powell Memo did not become available to the public until long after his confirmation to the Court. It was leaked to Jack Anderson, a liberal syndicated columnist, who stirred interest in the document when he cited it as reason to doubt Powell’s legal objectivity. Anderson cautioned that Powell “might use his position on the Supreme Court to put his ideas into practice…in behalf of business interests.”

Though Powell’s memo was not the sole influence, the Chamber and corporate activists took his advice to heart and began building a powerful array of institutions designed to shift public attitudes and beliefs over the course of years and decades. The memo influenced or inspired the creation of the Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute, the Cato Institute, Citizens for a Sound Economy, Accuracy in Academe, and other powerful organizations. Their long-term focus began paying off handsomely in the 1980s, in coordination with the Reagan Administration’s “hands-off business” philosophy.

Most notable about these institutions was their focus on education, shifting values, and movement-building — a focus we share, though often with sharply contrasting goals.* (See our endnote for more on this.)

So did Powell’s political views influence his judicial decisions? The evidence is mixed. Powell did embrace expansion of corporate privilege and wrote the majority opinion in First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, a 1978 decision that effectively invented a First Amendment “right” for corporations to influence ballot questions. On social issues, he was a moderate, whose votes often surprised his backers.

CONTINUED...

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/



Additional important history to know...



Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda

The Attack on Democracy


The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.

John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.

Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.

This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.

Source: TUC Radio

Part 1: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-one-of-two/

Part 2: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-two-of-two/



Absolutely, Johnny2X2X: "No Kings" was a teaching moment that cut through.

Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
15. Headlines should read: "Largest Mass Protest in U.S. History"
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:33 PM
18 hrs ago

Thank you, malaise! I am spitting mad about the lack of news coverage. If I'm not mistaken, and I can be permitted to borrow a photo without accrediting the source, I believe this was taken outside where Donald the Taco King of All Putins squats.





‘No Kings’ Was Biggest Protest in U.S. History: Data Analyst
Will Neal


by Will Neal
The Daily Beast, June 15, 2025

The “No Kings” protests in every state may have been the biggest day of demonstrations in American history, a data analyst has suggested.

“Based on hundreds of crowd-sourced records of No Kings Day event turnout, and extrapolating for the cities where we don’t have data yet, it looks like roughly 4-6m people protested Trump across the U.S. yesterday,” independent data journalist G Elliott posted to X Sunday.

For reference, that’d mean Saturday’s demonstrations featured 1-2 percent of the total population of 340 million taking to the streets in more than 2,000 cities to voice their opposition to the increasingly authoritarian, far-right policies the president has pursued since assuming office for the second time.

Snip...

Since his inauguration in January, Trump’s administration has witnessed more than 15,000 protests and rallies, representing a threefold increase in the number of public demonstrations that had taken place by this point in 2017.

Continues...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-kings-biggest-protest-u-172552711.html



It's up to us: We the People who care about Democracy.

Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
23. They'll grow in size, too.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:34 PM
14 hrs ago

Outstanding sign, sticker and photo.

Trump ruined my Flag Day. That guy and 12 or 13 million other Americans made it the best Flag Day ever.

H2O Man

(76,937 posts)
20. Recommended!
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:53 PM
18 hrs ago

I noted that people at the rally I attended were much more positive about our ability to win this struggle.

Kid Berwyn

(20,711 posts)
24. That is good news! We also got the M.I.C. with us.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:47 PM
14 hrs ago


A well-deserved commemoration for the first of our nation's Armed Forces.

(Note: Front row, lowest to the left; the small hands and sad clown wug on King Taco of All Putins, the Birthday Boy.)

marked50

(1,503 posts)
22. Just a question about your OP picture.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:07 PM
14 hrs ago

Is this a "take off" of the Movie "Zardoz"? Just wondering.

marked50

(1,503 posts)
29. Thanks for the confirmation.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 08:09 PM
11 hrs ago

When I saw your picture it immediately triggered the "Zardoz" memory. Haven't seen it for many, many years. Agree with the Sci-Fi monstrosity. Probably Sean Connery's worst or at least weirdest movie.

The only use I've had for the Movie is when I need to come up with something in Word games that start with a "Z".

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