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babylonsister

(172,146 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:23 AM Yesterday

Stephen Miller's Wife Angrily Ordered Social Security Boss to Go Along With Musk's BS

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Stephen Miller’s Wife Angrily Ordered Social Security Boss to Go Along With Musk’s BS
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Katie Miler wanted the Social Security Administration to keep falsely claiming that 40 percent of all calls to the agency were fraudulent.
Ewan Palmer
Reporter
Published Jun. 16 2025 10:58AM EDT


Stephen Miller’s wife berated the head of the Social Security Administration to promote a false claim about rampant fraud on the agency’s customer service line that was being pushed by Elon Musk.

Katie Miller, a former White House aide who later joined Musk’s team full time, called then-acting SSA Commissioner Leland Dudek and bluntly told him to keep repeating that 40 percent of calls to the SSA were from scammers and fraudsters even though the claim had zero basis in fact.

“The number is 40 percent,” Miller told Dudek during an April 1 phone call, according to The New York Times. She insisted that Dudek stick to the figure, despite SSA staff writing a response to correct it, because Donald Trump believed Musk. “Do not contradict the president,” she said.
Stephen and Katie Miller appear during the military parade making the 250th anniversary of the U.S. Army.

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The Times cited the false SSA scammer stat as yet another example of how Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) pushed misleading claims and fabricated data to justify its cost-cutting crusade.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-millers-wife-katie-miller-angrily-ordered-social-security-boss-to-go-along-with-musks-bs/

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Stephen Miller's Wife Angrily Ordered Social Security Boss to Go Along With Musk's BS (Original Post) babylonsister Yesterday OP
Leland Dudek wound up in that position because the competent long-time commissioner resigned over Musk's evil. John1956PA Yesterday #1
I wish the good guys wouldn't resign MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #22
Those two should hold hands walking Trump's golf courses during thunderstorms... hlthe2b Yesterday #2
Someone needs to make a list of these intentional false claims. Baitball Blogger Yesterday #3
She seems as rational and likable as her pos husband. Dave Bowman Yesterday #4
Bad news BonnieJW 23 hrs ago #8
Answers question of why she married MILLER. & now gone to MUSKrat. UTUSN Yesterday #5
Melania is her mentor... rubbersole 23 hrs ago #13
True about the money (does MILLER have it?) - but she & the Moolania have their own fierce wingnuttiness. UTUSN 23 hrs ago #14
sooo spouses now have a special position in the government without congressional approval? Javaman Yesterday #6
Should have been titled "Musks Mistress" Mountainguy Yesterday #7
Eww MoseShrute 23 hrs ago #10
Sorry Mountainguy 22 hrs ago #16
And remember how First Lady Hillary Clinton was running the government? Clouds Passing 17 hrs ago #28
Has she taken up official residence at the Musk brood mare stable? Vinca 23 hrs ago #9
Musk & Mrs. Miller Just Jerome 23 hrs ago #11
And now you know what kind of woman would marry Nosferatu. nt Buns_of_Fire 23 hrs ago #12
OK, I'm sick of being accused of fraud and hearing about it without any evidence. The main fraudster is in the White Hou Walleye 22 hrs ago #15
Yes, every accusation is a confession. ananda 22 hrs ago #17
I am sure they are worse than they accuse us of being. They can't distinguish right from wrong. Walleye 22 hrs ago #18
I know. You'd think they'd grow up some day... ananda 22 hrs ago #21
If a person never has to admit their mistakes and suffer consequences, this is what happens Walleye 21 hrs ago #23
Claiming people cheat also serves their other goals. ShazzieB 22 hrs ago #20
He wants to end Social Security MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #24
Yes, that's all true. ShazzieB 19 hrs ago #25
Yes, Trump and Musk thought this would be easy MadameButterfly 11 hrs ago #30
"ordered?" by what authority? question everything 22 hrs ago #19
Kick SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #26
She found the richest man in the world irresistible. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #27
I had wondered what kind of woman could marry scum like that Skittles 14 hrs ago #29
I worked at social security Puppyjive 1 hr ago #31

John1956PA

(4,156 posts)
1. Leland Dudek wound up in that position because the competent long-time commissioner resigned over Musk's evil.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:37 AM
Yesterday

MadameButterfly

(3,065 posts)
22. I wish the good guys wouldn't resign
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:26 PM
21 hrs ago

Just refuse to go along with the evil.
Make them fire you. Protest it in court.
Stop obeying in advance!

hlthe2b

(110,238 posts)
2. Those two should hold hands walking Trump's golf courses during thunderstorms...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:37 AM
Yesterday

(only to calm each other and definitely not to tempt lightning strikes, of course... )

Baitball Blogger

(50,183 posts)
3. Someone needs to make a list of these intentional false claims.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:38 AM
Yesterday

At some point, even MAGAs have to know the Administration's number's are not to be relied on.

rubbersole

(9,921 posts)
13. Melania is her mentor...
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:04 PM
23 hrs ago

...follow the money, money, money...she probably can't stand f#*king peewee german.

UTUSN

(74,465 posts)
14. True about the money (does MILLER have it?) - but she & the Moolania have their own fierce wingnuttiness.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:15 PM
23 hrs ago

They do their independent hatefulness quite well, tyvm.




Javaman

(64,063 posts)
6. sooo spouses now have a special position in the government without congressional approval?
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:08 PM
Yesterday

who knew?

Walleye

(41,024 posts)
15. OK, I'm sick of being accused of fraud and hearing about it without any evidence. The main fraudster is in the White Hou
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:41 PM
22 hrs ago

They don’t care if they accuse half of America of being dishonest crooks that’s their whole thing. I don’t believe it. I think most Americans are honest and ethical and do their best to fill out their forms correctly. I’m talking 90%. This is projection they cheat so they expect everybody to cheat.

ananda

(32,191 posts)
17. Yes, every accusation is a confession.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:11 PM
22 hrs ago

I can hardly fathom how vile these monsters are.
I almost said people.

Walleye

(41,024 posts)
18. I am sure they are worse than they accuse us of being. They can't distinguish right from wrong.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:14 PM
22 hrs ago

Like we all learn to do in kindergarten and Sunday school

Walleye

(41,024 posts)
23. If a person never has to admit their mistakes and suffer consequences, this is what happens
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:30 PM
21 hrs ago

ShazzieB

(20,906 posts)
20. Claiming people cheat also serves their other goals.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:22 PM
22 hrs ago

Don't forget, Eloon wanted to shut down customer service via phone at the SSA altogether, to supposedly save money. A false claim that most of the calls are fraudulent would have provided a handy justification, IF he could have gotten it to stick.

I think that the phone call claim was also part of trying to convince Americans that the entire SSA and other federal agencies were riddled with fraud, to justify all the firings, etc. Eloon evidently thought he could just send his doge puppies into the SSA and other federal agencies, claim fraud (without providing any verifiable evidence), and be instantly hailed as a hero! And he still doesn't understand why his "brilliant" plans backfired on him!

MadameButterfly

(3,065 posts)
24. He wants to end Social Security
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:37 PM
21 hrs ago

so he and Trump can pocket the money. So he has to make people dislike it. And make young people think they'll never get it.

He can't conceive of what it's like to need that money, and how hard people will hang on to a system they rely on for survival.
He won't succeed with old people but I worry about the young who notice what it costs them and can't identify with the need they will have someday. And who are being duped into believing it can't be saved long enough for them to benefit.

Every lie about SS is about taking it away from us. Not just the phone calls, the whole thing. There needs to be a major educational campaign about this.

Any money the oligarchs see in any account they will try to take.

ShazzieB

(20,906 posts)
25. Yes, that's all true.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 05:04 PM
19 hrs ago

But I think Eloon, Trump, and the others found out that it's going to be TONS harder than they thought. In fact, I think a LOT of the things Trump wanted to do when he took office again are turning out to be hella harder than he expected, which could turn out to be his downfall.

He's taken a lot of lumps lately, between the public reaction to his trying to dismantle the federal government, worldwide reaction to the tariffs, outrage over the immigration raids, etc., etc. His approval ratings are WAY underwater right now. I don't know what's going to happen, but I feel a lot more hopeful than I did a couple of months ago.

I know some people have already given up, but I'm nowhere near ready to do that. Not after this past Saturday. The American people aren't going to let our democracy go down if we can help it, and we have only just begun to fight!

MadameButterfly

(3,065 posts)
30. Yes, Trump and Musk thought this would be easy
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:47 AM
11 hrs ago

because narcissists think they are geniuses and they have all the answers.

They are shocked when people object to handing over their livelihoods and freedom.
They don't understand that other people aren't faking it; they really do have decades of experience and expertise.
They expect the solutions to be as simple as their simple brains.

They are divorced from reality and this is why they will lose.

Skittles

(164,997 posts)
29. I had wondered what kind of woman could marry scum like that
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 09:37 PM
14 hrs ago

the answer is: someone who themself is scum

Puppyjive

(736 posts)
31. I worked at social security
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:21 AM
1 hr ago

This 40% rate of fraudulent calls was a bunch of bullshit. The fraudsters would call to change direct deposits, but most of the time, we figured out they were not who they said they were. This was never at a 40% rate. Dudek was not very kind to the agency, often caving to Musk's demands. Not sure what goes on now.

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